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How do you handle food rules and birthday parties

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ihuli · 02/11/2019 20:25

Dd has a group of 4 friends, one of them is vegan and also not allowed refined sugar/ junk foods. They are age 7/8

Day to day play dates need a bit of planning, but it’s ok. She does like food and asks for it a lot, but is also quite fussy. They buy a lot of food stuffs I’ve genuinely never tried, and sometimes I don’t know what she wants when we asked. last time I took her to the local co-op to try choosing and it was hard to find anything that was allowed but yet also wanted. A banana certainly doesn’t cut it. She also sees me as a soft touch and will want the doughnuts for example (vegan in the coop) so I’ve stopped that as mum is then annoyed. She directs me not to allow her to eat at all sometimes, but the child refuses to do anything if not fed (her two siblings are not like this to be fair). Her diet involves a lot of bread as she’s not very keen on veggies/ non-exotic fruit

Birthday parties have proved really hard in the past. One for example she wasn’t brought to when they were younger, pizza making, wasted a load of vegan cheese and extras as there was a last minute judgement her dd would be upset by not being able to eat many things. My child did want cheese very strongly to be there. Another I didn’t realise drinks were an issue, handed out fruit shoots and it was taken away... cue sad child to deal with (she drinks squash I’m sure so didn’t know) Most result in her sitting away from the group and eyeballing them if there’s food, or on a parent’s lap with sad face and feeling awkward. Food bought especially goes to waste (and can frankly double the cost...). I keep vegan spread in the fridge and offer toast as a compromise normally on play dates. It’s become a big wedge, the rules and her reaction to not eating what the others are allowed.

I’ve really tried, from making vegan cakes (not eaten by anyone, not my forte) to separate food but it’s still an issue. I’ve asked for recipes, but they’ve involved flours/ nuts etc that aren’t easy to source without a journey out of area and require blenders which I don’t have (she is extremely dedicated to food prep, even making her own stuff raw vegan) I find mum a really difficult character in many ways with views on me (eg owning a TV, activities we do etc) not just food. I’ve tried reasonable chats but she’s of the firm belief that my choices are wrong and hers correct in short. I think anything short of a party that has no junk/ sugar and is vegan wouldn’t be enough. None of my other vegan friends react this way, it’s not an anti-vegan post.... it’s a super restrictive diets and difficulty/ judgement of me. Two other adults are vegan and their kids are veggie that we know through my other kids, it’s zero fuss to eat with them.

Now my dd does not want to be restricted, she wants some sweets alongside the fruit at birthdays. One of her friends is positively junk focused and would sulk if there’s none (well, it’s a birthday party, they tend to be conditioned to it).

The girl is otherwise lovely, and it’s horrible to leave her out of small parties. What would you do? I’m really close to having the easy life and just having the others. It’s a movie party and they will snack heavily, and expect it.

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Elodie2019 · 03/11/2019 09:01

If you must inform this woman beforehand, send her a list of the food you are planning to serve and tell her that if she would like to provide alternatives for her child, she is very welcome.

How old is the child? If old enough, add that Xchild will of course know what they can or can't choose to eat.

After that day no more.

Elodie2019 · 03/11/2019 09:03

Just read 8 years old!!!!

Old enough to know what he/she is allowed to eat. As long as there are a few options available, it's not your responsibility to police his/her choices.

Poor child.

ladyvimes · 03/11/2019 09:09

As this is parent choice rather than allergy/intolerance I’d let the kid eat whatever they liked. At 8 they are perfectly capable of deciding what they like to eat. Mum can’t force her to be vegan. Bet she won’t be once she leaves home!

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TryingAndFailing39 · 03/11/2019 09:11

My dc has a food allergy and also multiple food intolerances and I always take him a packed lunch. Sometimes he is catered for and that’s lovely but I never assume he will be as it’s difficult.
I was once excluded from a ‘mum friend’ group because the alpha mum thought I was too mainstream and judged what my dc ate (normal stuff!), how I managed behaviour (she didn’t do any discipline) and the activities we did (again fairly normal stuff like soft play etc). I felt horribly judged and couldn’t do anything right :-(

Strugglingtodomybest · 03/11/2019 09:14

I think you've gone to more than enough trouble to cater for this poor girl in the past. Personally, I would just prepare the birthday food that your daughter wants, let the other girls mum know what's available and then leave it at that.

cherryblossomgin · 03/11/2019 09:18

The child is going have food issues when she older if her mum keeps this up. Unless the restrictive diet is for medical reasons it's just not fair on her daughter.

I would be serving what your daughter wants for her birthday. I suspect with the mum nothing you do will be good enough. Tell her to bring her own food and be firm about it. I does sound like performance pareting. I would also be slipping the child a bit of birthday cake.

HarryRug · 03/11/2019 09:23

You sound like a lovely parent who has tried really hard to accommodate your DC’s friend. The other mum sounds rude, ungrateful and a PITA. Have fruit, popcorn and a vegan cupcake. Have party food and the guest picks what she likes. She won’t tell her mum if she chooses things she knows she isn’t allowed. Good luck!

Viebienremplie · 03/11/2019 09:25

Definitely ask the mum to provide packed lunch.

My DD has a very extreme allergy to one thing, which shouldn't be in normal cakes and most breads but can be so we have to be very vigilant. I always offer to send her with her own food so the party/play date mum doesn't have to police it for us or worry about it. I would hate for another mum to be trying to change the whole menu just for my DD, organising children's parties is faff enough for anyone without adding to the load!

Windygate · 03/11/2019 09:26

This is like a variation on the Christmas vegan thread. The odd one out needs to bring their own food.

mankyfourthtoe · 03/11/2019 09:51

I liked @DC3dilemma message but a lot shorter, ie please send a packed lunch, is she allowed any of the party food.

ihuli · 03/11/2019 10:08

Well... after all that it’s a non-issue. I text this morning an invite, not mentioning food yet as I thought I’d leave it for a follow up. She’s declined the idea of a movie party over concerns of what they will watch. It’s actually quite young for their age, U/ PG Disney films but that ‘don’t show positive depictions of women and offer poor aspirations for girls’.

I’m not actually at all annoyed, it’s kind of a relief. Yes, she does normally attend every gig with her kids and I end up with a cloud of disapproval. Shame for the girl, as she’s lovely but it’s not my responsibility, they’ll still be friends and dd has enough to invite and be happy and won’t be fazed.

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Ginfordinner · 03/11/2019 10:10

Poor girl. She will seriously go off the rails once she escapes the clutches of her censoring, clingy mum. I wonder if she will even be allowed to go to university.

Apolloanddaphne · 03/11/2019 10:16

That's a relief for you but I can't help worrying about the poor girl. I agree with the PP, she will likely go totally off the rails when she is able to leave home!

whattodo2019 · 03/11/2019 10:17

I'm afraid it's their problem not yours.
I would message the mother as already suggested above with a short note to ask that she provides her daughter with her own food and I would also ask the mother to let the child know why!
Then I'm afraid I would ignore the child's reactions to the sweet treats..

Apolloanddaphne · 03/11/2019 10:17

What film did you plan to show btw?

ihuli · 03/11/2019 10:19

I just said we had a load of Disney stuff they can access, all U/PG and Pixar stuff they could chose from on the day but not fixed

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rookiemere · 03/11/2019 10:24

Oh my goodness that poor, poor girl. It sounds like the DM is deliberately isolating her from her friends.

ihuli · 03/11/2019 10:26

I know I maybe could’ve started an agreement about a suitable film... but I can’t be bothered. I can envision now, they watch a second film, switch films in the DVD player and then drama policing it. I plan to provide food, treats, beanbags, duvets and clear the floor then leave them too it largely.

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JasonPollack · 03/11/2019 10:37

Poor child will end up so isolated. Not much you can do though given her age. Mum sounds absolutely pathological.

ihuli · 03/11/2019 11:04

Or maybe it’s personal, she’s avoiding me and my kids. No idea- but I think it’s easier not to dwell

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scarecrowfeet · 03/11/2019 11:22

You've had a lucky escape !

mankyfourthtoe · 03/11/2019 11:31

Bung brace on, then you've covered the positive girl thing. Frozen is also positive.
But don't get into it with her.
What a shame for the child.

If you have her over again don't get into what does she like, just provide her with something and be done with it.

HelloDulling · 03/11/2019 11:49

Bring in the sugar fest!!

The2Ateam · 03/11/2019 11:59

It’s impossible to avoid junk food and sugar at parties, besides that’s what parties are for!

Assumming there are no medical reasons, there is an abundance of vegan party treats the child can have at parties. Feel free to PM me if you like.

I would just be honest with the mum and say that at the party there will be a good choice of vegan AND sugary/party food - how does she want to mange this.

The2Ateam · 03/11/2019 12:05

OP, I do have sympathy for you and have offered advice - see above - but there is something about your post that is annoying me a lot. I can’t put my finger on what it is...

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