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How do you handle food rules and birthday parties

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ihuli · 02/11/2019 20:25

Dd has a group of 4 friends, one of them is vegan and also not allowed refined sugar/ junk foods. They are age 7/8

Day to day play dates need a bit of planning, but it’s ok. She does like food and asks for it a lot, but is also quite fussy. They buy a lot of food stuffs I’ve genuinely never tried, and sometimes I don’t know what she wants when we asked. last time I took her to the local co-op to try choosing and it was hard to find anything that was allowed but yet also wanted. A banana certainly doesn’t cut it. She also sees me as a soft touch and will want the doughnuts for example (vegan in the coop) so I’ve stopped that as mum is then annoyed. She directs me not to allow her to eat at all sometimes, but the child refuses to do anything if not fed (her two siblings are not like this to be fair). Her diet involves a lot of bread as she’s not very keen on veggies/ non-exotic fruit

Birthday parties have proved really hard in the past. One for example she wasn’t brought to when they were younger, pizza making, wasted a load of vegan cheese and extras as there was a last minute judgement her dd would be upset by not being able to eat many things. My child did want cheese very strongly to be there. Another I didn’t realise drinks were an issue, handed out fruit shoots and it was taken away... cue sad child to deal with (she drinks squash I’m sure so didn’t know) Most result in her sitting away from the group and eyeballing them if there’s food, or on a parent’s lap with sad face and feeling awkward. Food bought especially goes to waste (and can frankly double the cost...). I keep vegan spread in the fridge and offer toast as a compromise normally on play dates. It’s become a big wedge, the rules and her reaction to not eating what the others are allowed.

I’ve really tried, from making vegan cakes (not eaten by anyone, not my forte) to separate food but it’s still an issue. I’ve asked for recipes, but they’ve involved flours/ nuts etc that aren’t easy to source without a journey out of area and require blenders which I don’t have (she is extremely dedicated to food prep, even making her own stuff raw vegan) I find mum a really difficult character in many ways with views on me (eg owning a TV, activities we do etc) not just food. I’ve tried reasonable chats but she’s of the firm belief that my choices are wrong and hers correct in short. I think anything short of a party that has no junk/ sugar and is vegan wouldn’t be enough. None of my other vegan friends react this way, it’s not an anti-vegan post.... it’s a super restrictive diets and difficulty/ judgement of me. Two other adults are vegan and their kids are veggie that we know through my other kids, it’s zero fuss to eat with them.

Now my dd does not want to be restricted, she wants some sweets alongside the fruit at birthdays. One of her friends is positively junk focused and would sulk if there’s none (well, it’s a birthday party, they tend to be conditioned to it).

The girl is otherwise lovely, and it’s horrible to leave her out of small parties. What would you do? I’m really close to having the easy life and just having the others. It’s a movie party and they will snack heavily, and expect it.

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Ginfordinner · 03/11/2019 13:22

I can't see it The2Ateam Hmm.

It's going to be hard for the vegan girl at school when everyone is discussing the party she was invited to that her mum wouldn't let her attend.

ihuli · 03/11/2019 13:29

@The2Ateam food is no longer a barrier. See above.

Also, do note this thread has attracted more replies than I’d expect- I’ve apologised I can’t do individual replies. See above

If I annoy you, I have covered that I believe with an admittance to not being always the best parent. See above.

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ihuli · 03/11/2019 13:33

@mankyfourthtoe I did have that thought about Brave etc too, I’ve decided not to offer to see if the declining is retracted. I have other kids to watch, the girls will be old enough to change the DVD. I can’t police it. The idea tbh is this is largely a quick and easy gathering, in lieu of a proper party. With 5 kids I tend to rotate the years I give them a bigger celebration, plus I’ve got the balance of occupying the others in a house that isn’t massive.

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BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 03/11/2019 13:44

That poor child. You’ve done your level best but if her mother is intent on isolating her there’s little you can do.

stucknoue · 03/11/2019 13:45

Poor kid, micromanaging parents think they are helping their kid whereas in reality they are denying them to make their own opinions or teach them resilience even. Kids eventually have to be sent into the big wide world.

ChocoholicsAsylum · 03/11/2019 13:56

OP - She sounds a bit strange to put it nicely, she actually has issue with EVERYTHING! You and your DD dont need her wierd negativity in your house and I am glad on your behalf she isnt coming! Happy birthday to your LO when it comes Cake

Pogmella · 03/11/2019 14:00

I’m vegan and DD’s party had a piñata full of starburst, Oreos, love hearts, chupa chups and popcorn- all completely vegan!

I mean, packed full of sugar and colourings obv but I just wanted to say we’re not all mung beans and knit-your-own-hoummous...

RumpoleoftheBaileys · 03/11/2019 14:05

Hasn't she heard of Moana?...

ihuli · 03/11/2019 14:13

@Pogmella I know. We have other vegan friends, I’m pretty clued up on party rings/ biscuits like bourbons, Oreos and sugary sweets. I can do vegan pesto no bother etc. It’s going fairly mainstream I find, and totally no issue generally with other friends. In fact I’m very highly receptive to being fed by good vegan cooks....

It’s the dual issue of the added restrictions, plus the fact this child ends up all big eyed at me, sad and isolates her self if around other options. It ends up feeling horrible. And mum usually deals with it by putting her arm round her tightly and giving looks. (The child is otherwise really lovely and happy, I like her a lot and I’m not glad at all she’s not going. Her siblings to be fair do not react like this and have always seemed onboard- so it was easier with the older ones)

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ihuli · 03/11/2019 14:16

For background I think it maybe indicates a more general incompatibility. She comments on everything from my old petrol car, to my clothing choices being not ethical (though usually secondhand...) to me interacting in certain ways such as me addressing the girls as ‘princess’ or ‘love’ when I forget. Vegan is just an aspect, and this thread made me think that I’ve just bent over and invited a lot

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iklboo · 03/11/2019 14:23

That girl's probably going to rebel hard in her teens. Poor thing.

Luxembourgmama · 03/11/2019 15:30

Fuck that mother. It's very sad for the kid but the mother is causing all the problems don't ruin your daughters birthday for that mental cow.

Nofunkingworriesmate · 03/11/2019 16:58

How dare the mother comment on your clothes and car! Totally unacceptable to expect a food fad to be accommodated at a child’s party

AbsentmindedWoman · 03/11/2019 17:28

Gosh I feel desperately sorry for the difficult woman's kids.

She's setting her kdis up for a painful relationship with food as well as creating unnecessary obstacles to them mixing with their peers. Toxic parenting.

MrsP2015 · 03/11/2019 19:40

IHULI
It's a relief to hear the girl won't be attending.
Takes the pressure of you and also your dd and the other girls who I'm sure do feel a little awkward at times when eating food the girl can't have.
And it's GREAT to not have that awful woman there.

It's absolutely awful for the poor girl this whole situation and I'm sure other parents aren't as accommodating as you are/ have been.
Hope you aren't feeling bad. This is down to awful parenting from the mother as she's not made it easy for her dd to follow her mother's wishes.

Maybe next time your dd can take a friend on a trip out she could invite this girl so if your dd wants to, she gets time with her.
Maybe something like a swimming session or ice skating where they'd only need a drink so the other girl can have some... water, if she's allowed Confused

ReanimatedSGB · 03/11/2019 23:22

I would strongly advise leaving the door open for your DD to continue the friendship as long as all the DC want to, but just not engaging with the mother, who is a nasty cunt. Unfortunately, CuntMum doesn't quite reach the thresholds for abuse and neglect, though her behaviour is hurting her child, so all you can really do is offer an escape and an alternative.

TiceCream · 03/11/2019 23:30

The mother sounds ridiculous and overly restrictive. I wouldn’t pander to her when she’s being difficult purely through personal choice. I’m more than happy to accommodate allergies and special diets but I draw the line at being lectured to on other topics such as the content of films. She needs to accept that she can’t force her choices on other people.

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