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How do you handle food rules and birthday parties

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ihuli · 02/11/2019 20:25

Dd has a group of 4 friends, one of them is vegan and also not allowed refined sugar/ junk foods. They are age 7/8

Day to day play dates need a bit of planning, but it’s ok. She does like food and asks for it a lot, but is also quite fussy. They buy a lot of food stuffs I’ve genuinely never tried, and sometimes I don’t know what she wants when we asked. last time I took her to the local co-op to try choosing and it was hard to find anything that was allowed but yet also wanted. A banana certainly doesn’t cut it. She also sees me as a soft touch and will want the doughnuts for example (vegan in the coop) so I’ve stopped that as mum is then annoyed. She directs me not to allow her to eat at all sometimes, but the child refuses to do anything if not fed (her two siblings are not like this to be fair). Her diet involves a lot of bread as she’s not very keen on veggies/ non-exotic fruit

Birthday parties have proved really hard in the past. One for example she wasn’t brought to when they were younger, pizza making, wasted a load of vegan cheese and extras as there was a last minute judgement her dd would be upset by not being able to eat many things. My child did want cheese very strongly to be there. Another I didn’t realise drinks were an issue, handed out fruit shoots and it was taken away... cue sad child to deal with (she drinks squash I’m sure so didn’t know) Most result in her sitting away from the group and eyeballing them if there’s food, or on a parent’s lap with sad face and feeling awkward. Food bought especially goes to waste (and can frankly double the cost...). I keep vegan spread in the fridge and offer toast as a compromise normally on play dates. It’s become a big wedge, the rules and her reaction to not eating what the others are allowed.

I’ve really tried, from making vegan cakes (not eaten by anyone, not my forte) to separate food but it’s still an issue. I’ve asked for recipes, but they’ve involved flours/ nuts etc that aren’t easy to source without a journey out of area and require blenders which I don’t have (she is extremely dedicated to food prep, even making her own stuff raw vegan) I find mum a really difficult character in many ways with views on me (eg owning a TV, activities we do etc) not just food. I’ve tried reasonable chats but she’s of the firm belief that my choices are wrong and hers correct in short. I think anything short of a party that has no junk/ sugar and is vegan wouldn’t be enough. None of my other vegan friends react this way, it’s not an anti-vegan post.... it’s a super restrictive diets and difficulty/ judgement of me. Two other adults are vegan and their kids are veggie that we know through my other kids, it’s zero fuss to eat with them.

Now my dd does not want to be restricted, she wants some sweets alongside the fruit at birthdays. One of her friends is positively junk focused and would sulk if there’s none (well, it’s a birthday party, they tend to be conditioned to it).

The girl is otherwise lovely, and it’s horrible to leave her out of small parties. What would you do? I’m really close to having the easy life and just having the others. It’s a movie party and they will snack heavily, and expect it.

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OddestSock · 02/11/2019 21:04

It's your daughter's party, let your daughter have whatever food she wants being be dictated by this other girl's mother.

She sounds a nightmare :/

ihuli · 02/11/2019 21:05

@Shockers I’m afraid I have not raised my five so diligently. They want birthday cakes with themes and sweets included on their birthdays and it’s quite a big deal to them. Whilst that would be great most days and they are normally healthy eaters this is my 4th and she’s well set in the pattern of my older children in asking for specific foods on birthdays that aren’t virtuous. I’m not prepared to deny it on a birthday, I’ve tried in the past and it was a lead balloon with the other kids too

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clutchingon · 02/11/2019 21:07

My daughters best friend is coeliac. Her mum always offers to send a packed lunch, or sends gf pasta. I can cater to her diet anyhow but she is always thoughtful.

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misspiggy19 · 02/11/2019 21:07

There are lots of foods that are vegan and tbh if it was me I think I'd make the whole menu vegan for everyone.

^No way would I ever do that. So then everyone else has to suffer? No thanks

ihuli · 02/11/2019 21:08

One of my older kids has a friend with multiple allergies, I actually find it way easier. Aside from the kiwi in Haribo there’s a ton of sugary stuff around and gluten/ nut free is pretty easy nowadays

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SciFiRules · 02/11/2019 21:08

Solved! Purchase stickers that say "Suitable for sugar fee vegans", apply to all parry food... blame those counterfeit waitrose criminals!

Disfordarkchocolate · 02/11/2019 21:10

My child has a food intolerance. We offered to send food. Why is the Mother being such an ass?

Ginnymweasley · 02/11/2019 21:11

My dd has an allergy. I take food to parties for her. This mother should do the same, if she is going to insist on such a restrictive diet then she should provide the food. The vegan diet is fine and fairly easy to cope with but the no sugar thing at a kids party is going to be hard for you to police.

scarecrowfeet · 02/11/2019 21:11

The mother's not grateful for all the effort you've made so stop doing it.

maybejustmaybe · 02/11/2019 21:12

The parents should be sending food for such restrictive diet. My kids have friends with all sorts of allergies and diets. The parents send stuff. I do have a few things in, simple things I can easily find

MiddleClassProblem · 02/11/2019 21:14

I think this mother would object to the packed lunch because she feels everyone should eat this way.

Awaywiththepiskies · 02/11/2019 21:19

If I remove chocolate/ sweets/ cheese from her birthday she will be upset herself

It's your daughter's party! If the young girl's mother doesn't like it, she can refuse to let her DD attend.

I think you're being far too accommodating to a woman who sounds quite unpleasant - maybe if you just say how it's going to be, she'll have to make the decision herself, rather than be passively-aggressively implying it's your choices which are wrong.

Set some boundaries. And let your DD enjoy a proper silly party!

A thought: unsalted unbuttered popcorn for the vegan child?

redchocolatebutton · 02/11/2019 21:21

I agree with many other posters.
provide the party food your dd wants (and maybe a very limited vegan option)
your dd - your party
don't let one misery guts piss on your plans.

ShellieEllie · 02/11/2019 21:21

Crisps, I've never come across a vegan that doesn't eat them. Why are you worrying about another child? Sod the other parents it's your daughter's birthday, provide what she likes and if the parents aren't happy then they either provide a packed lunch or don't attend, end of!

JapaneseBirdPainting · 02/11/2019 21:22

You are overthinking it.

At best, send the proposed menu to the mother and tell her to provide alternatives for the things her DD can't eat.

RB68 · 02/11/2019 21:23

Have the food first and tell her to come when the activities start or vice versa let her leave earlier before food comes out

StillNoFuckingEyeDeer · 02/11/2019 21:23

Invite the child, tell the mother what you're serving and let her supply food for her DD.
If the mother isn't there, let the girl eat what she wants.
Tell them all the cakes are sugar free and tell the mother that her DD only had a small bit.
Don't mention any of the popcorn/crisps/junk if she eats it. What happens at the party stays at the party.

Lovemenorca · 02/11/2019 21:24

As far as I know... birthdays are a once a year event?

How frequently does this actually impact on your life?

pikapikachu · 02/11/2019 21:26

My son has allergies/intolerances and I used to send him to parties with a packed lunch to avoid this issue. It's sad if everybody is eating Rice Krispie cakes while she eats rice cakes but this way you're not angering the mum and risking her declining future invites.

plightofthealbatross · 02/11/2019 21:28

I actually hate parents like this.

If you insist your child has to be so restricted in food choices, then provide your child's food for parties and playdates. It's that simple. Don't get pissy when your child is sad and upset that everyone else gets to eat things the child wants to but isn't allowed.

Food allergies are different, obviously. Have had those ourselves. And we provided snacks when we thought there might be issues there. Problem sorted.

stucknoue · 02/11/2019 21:30

Provide foods that are naturally vegan as part of the buffet eg most kids like pitta wedges and hummus, carrot and cucumber sticks, cherry tomatoes. Offer melon chunks and strawberries as a sweet. If you are up for it, vegan banana muffins are really easy and don't need any weird stuff (uses sunflower oil). Don't buy in vegan versions of meat foods as they are pretty junky

hairyheadphones · 02/11/2019 21:31

As soon as that child can go to the shop on her own she’ll buy a lot of sugary foods - her mum is really causing her food based issues for the future.

DC3dilemma · 02/11/2019 21:32

“Dear militant vegan food police mum,

Our daughters are great friends and we’d love to have X over. Unfortunately I have struggled in the past to provide X with food that hits the mark for your family’s preferences. As getting it wrong means a lot of food waste, it’d be great if X could bring a packed lunch. For your information they’ll be having lunch at Y time, and snacks at Z. Please let me know your preferences with regard to X expressing a desire for any other foods. I’m sure you’ll understand, I wouldn’t want to police another child’s eating habits so for clarity it would be helpful to know if X has been told to eat no food (other than her own packed lunch) or if she can eat selected food. If the latter, I would suggest that it would be best if she runs her choices past you. I can of course show you the range of food on offer at drop off and perhaps you can provide X a note of what will be acceptable. As no allergies are involved, I will leave compliance with this in Xs hands -rest assured I would not involve myself in disciplining someone else’s child unless urgently necessary, especially not when the issue is a sensitive one. We look forward to seeing X.”

And do that, nothing more. At 8ish you should be able to minimally supervise the kids watching a movie. If X eats things she shouldn’t that’s between her and her mum.

bossybloss · 02/11/2019 21:32

I feel she is setting her daughter up for a lifetime of issues with food eg eating disorder etc.Sorry if this doesn’t sit comfortably with anyone but the mother appears to be making such an issue out of it.Why can’t she just discreetly give a selection of suitable party foods , maybe on different coloured plates ..to be offered to everyone , but her child knows that she is allowed them.

stucknoue · 02/11/2019 21:32

Oh and some supermarket own brand sorbets are vegan and cheap (also delicious)

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