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Boris J's suspension of Parliament ruled unlawful

185 replies

Clawdy · 24/09/2019 10:56

Breaking news.....Great!

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SleepyKat · 24/09/2019 11:58

Surely he has to resign?

latedecember1963 · 24/09/2019 11:58

Anyone watching the bbc news chanel?
There's someone in a Boris costume carrying a guilty sign standing behind Ben Brown. 😂

Bluntness100 · 24/09/2019 12:02

I don't think he will resign, I think he will try to brazen it out. Say we made a mistake, we thought it was legal, but now we are back, let's get on with getting a deal.

The issue he also has is he may be found in contempt of parliament on his return, as said, on two counts, for refusing to hand over all the yellow hammer documents and the proroguation ones.

noodlenosefraggle · 24/09/2019 12:02

Yes I am. I felt sorry for the first guy they spoke to in Stoke. I don't know why they let him go on.

Bluntness100 · 24/09/2019 12:07

Sky news saying the judgement is a lot more damning than lady hales statement, for example they have said that when they reviewed boriss documents it was apparent he was behaving as a lone wolf with no thought to his legally required constitutional duties, parliament simply didn't factor for him, basically he was acting as an autocratic or dictator.

Cinammoncake · 24/09/2019 12:08

She made it clear that it was a unanimous verdict, 11 Supreme Court judges which is the most you can have. The top court in the land. So the most watertight judgement and it was damning. Loved the brooch (Oh what a tangled web we weave?)

DoubleTweenQueen · 24/09/2019 12:11

I think they had to be critical - actually unlawful is really something though! Off to catch up with it all...

Bluntness100 · 24/09/2019 12:13

Her statement was excellent, she really knows how to explain it in lay mans terms.

Parliament will be resumed tomorrow at 11.30 tomorrow. No pms questions tomorrow. But room for motions for Emergsncy debates and ministerial statements.

WonderWomansSpin · 24/09/2019 12:14

Bluntness you seem confused about my point. But as someone who has worked in parliament I am amused at your attempt to 'explain' it to me. Perhaps you should check the slate to see the issues parliament intended to 'discuss' prior to suspension or indeed the issue they intend to discuss when recalled.
Anyone who thinks Boris will suddenly discover principles or morals is rather naive.

Span1elsRock · 24/09/2019 12:14

Oh yay. More arguing politicians to look forward to and making us look even more stupid than we already do.

Not really sure what it has acheived for anyone tbh, least of all Boris.

BelleSausage · 24/09/2019 12:16

The unanimous vote is the kicker for Boris. No wriggle room. It must have been a water tight case for illegality for no dissenting votes.

Anyone who complains about it being undemocratic can stick that in their pipe.

Parliamentary control was what they demanded. This is what it looks like. Despots have tried before to wrestle control: Charles I, Oliver Cromwell, James II. Which is why these laws already exist.

noodlenosefraggle · 24/09/2019 12:16

Lady Hale is a brilliant judge.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/09/2019 12:16

He's clearly not used to hearing the word "no". Perhaps he will explode and send little tufts of blond hair all over the Commons.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 24/09/2019 12:16

So the known liar who has twice been sacked for lying has proven to be a liar in the unanimous decision of the highest court in the UK as well as the highest court in Scotland.

What the hell the English court was playing at I don't know, perhaps they were not party to all the facts of Johnson's lying.

He is a disgrace and should be out on his lying arse.

FuriousVexation · 24/09/2019 12:17

@pasmayalabeille
Anyone know where that brooch is from ?

Cirith Ungol would be my bet. Little bespoke jewellers on your way out of town towards Mordor.

jollygoose · 24/09/2019 12:18

Before anyone rushes to vote labour be very aware that they plan to slash the amount you can inherit presently the tax free amount you can inherit from parents is over £400,000 for 2 parents they plan to slash it to £250,000 thus parents who leave an expensive home will mean the government will take most of it.

Actaea · 24/09/2019 12:18

These remainer judges will do anything to avoid Brexit. It’s getting ridiculous now. Boris wouldn’t have attempted to suspend Parliament in the first place if remainers hadn’t been trying to stop him delivering Brexit.

BelleSausage · 24/09/2019 12:18

@ArnoldWhatshisknickers

I would suspect that the English court kicked the cab up the road (so to speak) because it is such a hot potato issue. Previous rulings would have muddied the water.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/09/2019 12:18

I bet that brooch was a "what a tangled web we weave" reference too.

BelleSausage · 24/09/2019 12:19

@Actaea

How are the ‘remainer Judges’?

TheElementsSong · 24/09/2019 12:21

Boris wouldn’t have attempted to suspend Parliament in the first place if remainers hadn’t been trying to stop him delivering Brexit.

Oooh! I thought the agreed-upon meme was that prorogation was totally normal and absolutely posilutely nothing to do with Brexit? Is this the first admission by a Leaver that prorogation was all about Brexit after all? Grin

Bluntness100 · 24/09/2019 12:23

Wonder Woman, I'm not sure what point of yours I'm confused on?

Also I certainly never indicated he would develop morals. In fact the opposite, I specifically stated he would try to brazen it out.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 24/09/2019 12:24

So, if you've been unable to move the chess pieces in such a way as to achieve the result you wanted it's fine to just knock the board over? Democracy!

noodlenosefraggle · 24/09/2019 12:25

*Oh yay. More arguing politicians to look forward to and making us look even more stupid than we already do.

Not really sure what it has acheived for anyone tbh, least of all Boris.*

The prorugation was pointless and antagonistic.
The court case has re established Parliamentary Sovereignty, reiterated that government must abide by the constitution and can only prorogue Parliament for particular reasons, for example, to have a new Queens Speech and introduce a new parliamentary session. Not in order to stop Parliament debating legislation. That will apply to this and any future government that decided it wanted to prorogue Parliament for weeks for no legitimate reason.
The government could not prove that they had good reason to shut down Parliament. They couldn't persuade even one senior judge that they had a legitimate reason to prorogue Parliament, so their arguments must have been astonishingly poor.

MustardScreams · 24/09/2019 12:31

Fabulous explanation as to why prorogation was illegal by @Bluntness100 there.

I’ve seen leavers calling for a knighthood for him. I didn’t think they could get any more idiotic but here we are!

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