Unplanned - Abortion Film **Trigger Warning** Title edited by MNHQ sensitive content*

[Mum2386]

Hi,
Last night I watched a film called Unplanned, which is based on a true story of a lady working within an abortion clinic called ‘Planned Parenthood’. The film itself brought me to tears on many occasions and it’s made me feel very uncomfortable surrounding abortion. I had an unplanned pregnancy with my third child but knew abortion wasn’t an option for me. I am quite shocked by the amount of abortions that still take place within our society. Does anyone else feel this way? I know we all have different views but i just wondered what other people’s thoughts were on this very sensitive topic.

I’m not sure why you’ve started this thread op. You seem secure in your choice that you’d never have an abortion, yet you don’t mind other women having one, so what’s the problem and what’s the debate here? Are you looking for the ‘other side’ or are you being sanctimonious?

Thank you @Firecarrier

you need to stop
You don’t get to tell me to stop. Why can’t I share my feelings too?

Because you're attacking another poster for no reason. You've twisted everything she's said and are now wilfully misunderstanding her posts as she's patiently and respectfully explained them again and again to you, as have others.

Because you're attacking another poster for no reason. You've twisted everything she's said and are now wilfully misunderstanding her posts
I’m not attacking her at all.
I’m not twisting anything- I’m staring over and over that we went through the same thing so her opinion on mine is the same as her opinion on hers- that it’s meaningless because it was microscopic and had no feeling etc

Rubicon80 - Why did I post it, the same reason other people post questions/opinions. I’ve never discussed the topic before, abortion has existed for decades, opinions change. I was wondering how women felt as a whole about abortion, as it stands women lean towards pro-choice.

We went through the same thing so obviously if she thinks one thing about her miscarriage, she thinks it about mine.

Not everyone that goes through the same experience will feel the exact same things. Even when that experience is trauma ,loss etc.

Most people are also empathetic enough to commiserate with you despite feeling differently for their own situation.

You're taking her feelings and her situation and extrapolating them to yourself.

I'm sincerely sorry for your pain and loss , but you must see that this is just upsetting you further,and you're doing it to yourself.

Do you really go through life believing that every single person feels and should feel the same way as you do about everything? Your circumstances and PP's circumstances and lives are completely different.
I had a miscarriage, too. The fact that the foetus had no feelings or understanding of anything, and was never to be a baby actually brought me comfort.

Solihooley - I am not debating who is right and who is wrong, as I’ve seen it’s a very personal choice for women. What do you mean I don’t mind women having abortions, why would I mind, I have no control over their bodily functions and the decision they make as an individual.

@Eleanoryellow89

I’ve never discussed the topic before, abortion has existed for decades,

Spoilt for choice. People who have always had choice,who never suffered or witnessed the consequences of not having choice,who didn't have their friend,mother,sister,daughter harmed by the lack of choice want to "discuss" and debate moral sides.

It seriously enrages me. It's not theoretical physics...it's reality for many women around the globe.

Not something for you to discuss and debate and feel all self righteous and moral about.

Spoilt people.

My sister and I both had miscarriages at similar stages. She was devastated by hers, I wasn't by mine. I still managed to support and sympathize with how she felt and she didn't take offence that I hadn't been as upset as her. People can have different reactions and feelings about similar events, it isn't a judgement of you just because someone else feels differently.

@Eleanoryellow89 I had a miscarriage too and I grieved the loss of that baby intensely. I still do. But that doesn't make me a better person than someone who didn't deal with their miscarriage in the same way, and it doesn't make you a "good" person because you were affected by your loss in a way @Rubicon80 wasn't. Quite frankly it's pretty disgusting to suggest otherwise.

Everyone deals with miscarriage in different ways. Nobody deserves one any more or any less than anyone else.

You're a right little back-pedaller you are, OP

Why did I post it, the same reason other people post questions/opinions. I’ve never discussed the topic before, abortion has existed for decades, opinions change. I was wondering how women felt as a whole about abortion, as it stands women lean towards pro-choice.

Such wide-eyed innocence, OP. Pull the other one.

obviously if she thinks one thing about her miscarriage, she thinks it about mine.

Not the case at all. I suspect you haven’t read previous replies but each pregnancy is different for each woman and as said previously lots of us have had both miscarriage and abortions. Things change over time too. Had you asked me 5 years ago if I’d want an abortion the answer would have been a firm no. 5 years on things are very different and the answer was yes, book me in ASAP. It doesn’t mean anyone’s experience cancels out anyone else’s. If one person is capable of having such different feelings with 2 different pregnancies then it’s obvious that different women will have a myriad of different responses, I still don’t see why this has anything to do with taking away that choice for women.

My question OP is why do you think your opinion matters? And it is only pro life birthers that think their opinion on the subject means absolutely anything to anyone. Pro choice is just a retaliation to it.

Since you asked for opinions, here's how I feel.... I've been involved in probably thousands of terminations. Early ones (in the days before ts medical terminations) and late ones. I'd defend every woman's right to choose, the choice must always be there. It's that simple.

You do realise it runs deeper than an abortion, that those who chose to abort, suffer from their decisions years after, many have said they weren’t given support other than to terminate their pregnancy, so in my opinion they never really had a choice if I’m honest. No I have not aborted and no I would never choose to. Just because I decided not to end a pregnancy, it doesn’t mean I’m spoilt and self righteous. It means I made an ethical choice for myself. Anyway I’ll get of my high horse now!

I don’t think my opinion matters but because I asked for others opinions, it makes sense that I give my opinion, just as every other women on here.

It means I made an ethical choice for myself.

And that would've been fine if it stopped there . But it didn't...it never does.

And you can't see how debating the wrong and rights of a right you do have,even if you chose not to exercise might be a tad grating to women who haven't had or still don't have that right,to women who have that many restrictions and regulations that might as well not have that right, to women that are legitimately worried that that right might be striped from them?

StockTake - I think you’ll find you’re the one that has been debating the issue surrounding abortion. Looks like you need to take your own advice!

Ah yes it's all my fault. My bad

Why didn’t my ethical choice stop there, I am talking about myself not everyone else’s choice. I’ve mentioned I had an unplanned 3rd pregnancy, you don’t even know what things were against us as a family because I haven’t divulged it but as termination wasn’t a choice for me morally, I carried on my pregnancy.