Unplanned - Abortion Film **Trigger Warning** Title edited by MNHQ sensitive content*

[Mum2386]

Hi,
Last night I watched a film called Unplanned, which is based on a true story of a lady working within an abortion clinic called ‘Planned Parenthood’. The film itself brought me to tears on many occasions and it’s made me feel very uncomfortable surrounding abortion. I had an unplanned pregnancy with my third child but knew abortion wasn’t an option for me. I am quite shocked by the amount of abortions that still take place within our society. Does anyone else feel this way? I know we all have different views but i just wondered what other people’s thoughts were on this very sensitive topic.

‘Bullshit reasons’ is subjective. The only reason a woman should have to give is “because I want to”.

Women should not be able to have abortions just because they want to.

Abortion is the killing of an unborn human being.

I have nothing else to say because it's just going to be a slurry of insults coming my way and I have no interest in entertaining them.

“Unless someone is in a situation similar to @Instatwat then their reason is probably bullshit.”

Probably? What else is a non bullshit reason?

The anti-choicers are obsessed by the quantity of life with no regard for the quality of life.

This. Once you ban or severely restrict abortions there are few alternatives:

Children raised by women/parents that don't want them or are unable to cope with them.

Children dumped in the care system.

Women having illegal and unsafe abortions that leave many of them at risk of prosecution,disability,infertility and even death.

Some will be adopted(and never as many as the pro birthers would like you to believe)but even that doesn't make for a happy or even a good enough ending in many cases.

I have nothing else to say because it's just going to be a slurry of insults coming my way and I have no interest in entertaining them.

Without doubt, you have said the most vicious thing on this thread.

Women should not be able to have abortions just because they want to

Fortunately we have less hard of thinking people making legislation.

Thank goodness.

Fortunately we have less hard of thinking people making legislation.

Hopefully that will ask.

Terminations were legalised under strict conditions because of the huge numbers of deaths and injuries caused by desperate women undergoing illegal, unsafe terminations. It was a medical and moral decision to change the laws.

There will always be terminations. The difference is whether they are safe and effective terminations or not.

You can't ban abortions,you can only ban safe abortions.

In answer to your original question, yes I am quite shocked too.
Every human has a right to life.

It's not on UK Prime. Where did you watch it?

You can't ban abortions,you can only ban safe abortions.

Do you really think people who think women who have abortions are evil murderers care if a woman dies? If anything, it would be punishment. If she really wants an abortion, this is the penalty.

No. Every human does not ‘have a right to life’ if they depend on the body of another to sustain it.

Every human has a right to life.

I hope you're all registered organ donors.

I’m sorry to hear your story instatwat

And I’m even sorrier forced birthers think you should have had your baby anyway

I’m with you OP but I agree with PP who’ve said it’s simply unacceptable to be pro life on MN.

The “your body your choice” mantra ignores the fact that there’s another body involved.

It’s truly convoluted doublethink to deny the humanity of the unborn child while also sympathising with women facing miscarriage who know very well that what has happened is not just the loss of “a bunch of cells”.

No civilised society should tolerate abortion.

How ironic that you are disgusted by abortions after 8weeks however it is people like you working in pharmacy services or GP practices who cause later abortions by refusing to serve the MAP/make women run around trying to access abortions simply because they are uncomfortable with the choices others are forced to make !

For balance I would ask you to have a look at the stories behind abortions -
"In her shoes" Facebook page details the stories of Irish women forced to seek abortions in England and Scotland.

No civilised society should tolerate the promotion of women being forced into damaging (physical,mental,emotional) and sometimes deadly procedures against their will. Which is what giving birth(and pregnancy) is.

I’m with you OP but I agree with PP who’ve said it’s simply unacceptable to be pro life on MN

It is never unacceptable to be pro-life for yourself. To make a decision that for you, abortion isn’t a possibility is absolutely within your rights.

It is always unacceptable for forced-birthers to police other women’s uteri.

It’s truly convoluted doublethink to deny the humanity of the unborn child while also sympathising with women facing miscarriage who know very well that what has happened is not just the loss of “a bunch of cells”

How foolish. Of course it is possible to do both. Wanted vs unwanted pregnancy. It’s a very simple concept.

“Unless someone is in a situation similar to @Instatwat then their reason is probably bullshit.”

So, does that mean my reason wasn’t bullshit? But you still think I shouldn’t have been able to access an abortion (TFMR)?

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@Rachelover60 there's a lot more and some BBC articles in English too,I didn't know how much to post or show.

In a way I don't want to upset people too much,but in another this shit has happened?it is real,it could happen again, which is why I'll always be pro choice ,even though I probably wouldn't be alive now if abortion was legal.
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Neither would i had abortion been legal when I was conceived. People have occasionally said, "Well you were allowed to live and thrive", and that's true but if I hadn't, I wouldn't have known anything about it.

I didn't know there was no legal abortion in Romania.

I’ve never heard from an intelligent sounding pro lifer. I don’t know if it’s genuinely just a stupid sounding argument or it’s generally the hard of thinking who parrot it out. I think it would be amazing to debate with a smart pro lifer.

I’m pro choice all the way. We’re
So lucky in this country to have easy to access often free contraception, good sex education and access to safe legal abortion. Just have to finish the job in Northern Ireland now

Not sure why you are so sentimental about an embryonic heartbeat. It is the size of a seed, it would have absolutely no chance of survival without the woman. In effect, for the first trimester and part of the second trimester, it’s a parasite. It really is a parasite zapping the woman’s energy and nutrients.

I have never understood how a woman who has experienced pregnancy and birth would want to force another woman to go through that against her wishes.

Saucery
It always astounds me that some people would rather see unwanted children born, with all the neglect and unhappiness that that can entail rather than allow a woman to make a choice about her own body and her own future. It’s vindictive. Children should be a choice, not a punishment for not abiding by someone else’s moral code.
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I agree with you Saucery. The only 'pro lifers' I've come across are first world people who live in a society where many couples want to adopt and are able to give a child a comfortable life. That isn't the case in other parts of the world. It's a sad business when unwanted children are abandoned, neglected and put into overcrowded and inadequate orphanages.

I personally don't agree with abortion.

When I found out I was pregnant with my DS my then fiancé (now DH) asked me if I was going 'to get rid of it.' I said no - but I was financially stable, own house, etc. He was supportive 100%.
Obviously people have vastly differing lives and I try my best not to judge other people for their choices.