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HolidayHolly · 02/09/2019 08:45

A what would you do...
For context.. On holiday in a villa in Spain with DH and his 2 friends and their DP. Average age early 30's, I'm late 30's and Anna is 20's. Plan was to go to a big club one night this week to see a famous DJ. This is not our usual type of thing or chosen night out (usually in bed by 12!) but it was a special request by my DH's friend 'Tom', who missed out on all the nightlife holiday stuff in his younger days and asked if we could all do this as a one-off. We all agreed ages ago and booked tickets for this one off event. The dj comes on in the early hours of the morning, (think 4-5am ish) so it's going to be hard work to stay awake!

Anyway we were all sat round at dinner discussing the event and DH and I were talking about how hard we were going to find it to stay awake long enough for the event and what our tactics would be, eg having a nap during the day before, trying to change our body clock etc. DH made a joke about why on earth we booked this, what were we thinking etc. Tom said we could always cancel if it's too difficult for everyone. I felt Tom was a bit concerned by me and DH being negative about the event, so I said sorry if we sounded negative, and that we were keen to go but just worried we would spoil it or not enjoy it due to tiredness so trying to come up with a plan. He seemed fine and said no worries, and made a joke about drinking loads of coffee. However, Tom's gf Anna became a bit passive aggressive, saying things along the lines of "don't listen to those two fuckers Tom" and "well they can fuck off and we'll go by ourselves", in a 'jokey' way.
Later on the conversation turned up marriage (DH and I are but Anna and Tom are not) and when another person asked Anna if she'd like to get married she was making disdainful faces towards me and DH and saying "no way" and making rolling eyes / yawn type faces. There has been more of this behaviour but I can't be bothered to list it all here.

Anyway on the way home Anna and Tom wanted to walk back by themselves instead of getting a cab with us, and I had the strong sense that Anna was going to be talking about us. At the villa everyone went to bed but I could hear Anna's voice talking to Tom for ages in their room (walls very thin). I could hear snatches of sentences and then lots of words I couldn't make out. I heard her say my name and then talk about me and. I couldn't make out whole sentences but heard things like "the problem with Holly is..." and "people like that they just..." etc etc. This went on for about 45 minutes and I could hear Tom interjecting with words but mainly Anna talking to him.

I feel crap this morning. I don't know how best to approach the day or the rest of this holiday. I hate all this crap which feels like teenage behaviour to me. None of my friends behave like this- we just communicate openly. I know that if it wasn't for DH friendship with Tom I would never choose to have a person like Anna in my life as she feels somewhat insecure and toxic, but for DH sake I have always tried to get on with her and on the surface have done so. I have shown her kindness, involving her in my bridal party things as Tom was DH's best man, so as not to make her feel left out. I am also sad because I do like Tom very much and feel sad if these conversations are being had.

It all sounds ridiculously PETTY I know - and that's because it is! Do I just zone out and get through this holiday with a false smile? I hate being disingenuous though.

OP posts:
HolidayHolly · 02/09/2019 11:10

Thanks @onceyoupopyoucantstop and @hardyloveit @AryaStarkWolf Good advice

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RosesAndRaindrops · 02/09/2019 11:10

Keep it light and breezy (always reminds me of Monica!)

@Hardyloveit "I'm breezy....." Grin

"You can't say you're breezy, it totally negates the breeziness!"
(sorry, love Friends lol)

AlrightOkNow · 02/09/2019 11:13

I think no matter how many times you apologise, you're always going to be remembered as the people shitting all over Tom and Anna's parade. It's in bad taste of you to moan about being able to stay up for one night. It's not necessarily her age in how she spoke to you, just how she deals with being pissed off, some people are just PA. I have an acquaintance in her 40s who would be like this too and choose not to spend much time with her. Another thing to think about is whether you have form for this too? Voicing your 'concerns' out loud to the point it irritates others, even if you've not realised you're doing it. It's not uncommon, my DH does it about decisions I've made and it's frustrating to no end.

That being said, if you could hear her talking about you, then maybe you should have pulled them both aside and addressed it as PPs have said. The walls are quite thin, I heard you talking about me and just wondered if there's anything you wanted to discuss openly to resolve? It sounds like Tom is being polite all round, to his gf and to you but perhaps not letting on what he really feels?

supercatlady · 02/09/2019 11:14

So you've posted on a public forum about a conversation a couple had in the privacy of their own room. Can you honestly say you've NEVER spoken to your husband about her? Have you been open about that with her?
Biscuit

hotwaterbottle12 · 02/09/2019 11:14

This thread is so odd. Op made a few comments about staying awake at a 4am Dj gig. She wasn't PA at all, I'm not sure some people on this thread know the meaning of PA.
Anna sounds like an absolute bitch and I wouldn't entertain her shit any more. After hearing nasty stuff said about me - from my own room where I wasn't eavesdropping - I'd have been less than polite to her the next day.

Spotsandstars · 02/09/2019 11:17

Going forward after this holiday I wouldn't hang out with her again. Tom yes as he's a long term friend but after her comments at your wedding etc she just sounds toxic and won't add anything to your life.

funmummy48 · 02/09/2019 11:19

I don’t think Anna sounds very nice.

LillithsFamiliar · 02/09/2019 11:19

The problem is that you think 'being honest' is an excuse for raining on Tom's parade and tbh dampening everyone's expectation for an event that was booked ages ago. You could have been 'honest' with your DP that you didn't think you could stay up late for one night. Your motivation for steering the group conversation that way wasn't honesty and until you realise that, your apology isn't sincere.
This all seems petty because it is but you've shown no consideration for the other members of the party either. You've already stolen the sunshine from the event and now you want to have a showdown about the fact that people you upset acted like upset people. Hmm

Hwory · 02/09/2019 11:20

Yeah I wouldn’t be going to the lame recaptured youth DJ set after that but I’m petty AF.

‘The problem with me is I just can’t stay up these days. Oh DH aren’t these walls thin tink tink’

RJoneszy · 02/09/2019 11:21

Couldn't even read all of it without making an opinion. I have friends like you and it drives me insane with all the winging. Just don't go?

Why would you opening talk about how you are going to struggle to stay awake with people who have clearly planned for you to have a one- off night out (on holiday!) you will soon be back to normality....

You will be old before you know it.

SayWhatNowYall · 02/09/2019 11:21

This is why group holidays stop being relaxing. Your friends’ partners are not necessarily who you would choose as friends. There can be a level of resentment about having to spend precious holiday time with people you don’t really have anything in common with, or particularly like.

You also end up agreeing to do stuff you don’t really want to out of politeness and resenting the waste of your holiday time (i.e. the exhausting and pointless sounding 5am DJ slot - why bother?!)

After this tell your DH no more holidays with these two. Life’s too short!

Bluntness100 · 02/09/2019 11:29

Op made a few comments about staying awake at a 4am Dj gig

Clearly it was more than that as the op says Anna had to repeatedly make pa comments to get them to stop, before eventually culminating in Tom saying they didn't have to go.

Jeez I'm fifty, a couple of weeks ago we were at an all nighter party. We didn't intend it to be that late, but with drinking and chatting we saw the sun come up, and like many people we have done it occasionally over the years, no one needs to have an extensive discussion about staying awake strategies and how oh so hard it will be.

diddl · 02/09/2019 11:31

Well I do agree with pps that you overdid the "how will we stay awake"-but Anna was very rude in response.

"Don't listen to those two fuckers", "they can fuck off".

What an overreaction!

Tractorgirlz · 02/09/2019 11:31

I think you sounded really miserable moaning about having to stay up 1 night. Some people actually work nights and have to do this whilst holding their concentration so I’m sure you were capable of trying to enjoy yourself for 1 night. It sounds like you complained enough for Tom to say ‘don’t worry about coming if you don’t want to’ so it wasn’t just one jokey comment about having a nap was it? She was having a private conversation with her DP so you shouldn’t have been listening in anyway.
There’s nothing worse than booking something with a group of friends that you think will be fun just for someone to sap all the joy from it. If you didn't want to go you could’ve let your DH go and you just have a quiet night in.

ThirstyGhost · 02/09/2019 11:36

"Whatever you do don’t start dancing next to her! She’ll be mortified."

au contraire, I reckon you and DH should dance AROUND her doing Monica and Ross's brother and sister dance in Friends.

ThirstyGhost · 02/09/2019 11:37

.... and take travel pillows and insist on wearing them in between dances.

Ticklemeelmo · 02/09/2019 11:41

I do remember at the end of our wedding someone jokingly saying "do you want a wedding Anna" and her saying "no fucking way, I can't imagine anything worse than a wedding" and screwing her nose up, whilst I was sat next to her.

All these people on this thread defending her- Anna sounds like a nasty piece of work and I'd distance myself from her if I were you.

FishCanFly · 02/09/2019 11:41

so you were bitching about the event they were looking forward to. Anna was not amused and bitched back.

Holidays with friends = easiest way to fall out

dottiedodah · 02/09/2019 11:42

Are you all as well matched as you think?.Sounds like you and your DH are getting a bit past the late night clubbing scene ,while they are still raring to go!.Often people change into their 30s and want a slightly different pace of life .Just try to get along for the rest of the holiday if you can ,and maybe see if you can book a couple of days without them if possible.Perhaps you could let your hair down a little ,?You are on holiday after all !.As my Cousin says "plenty of time to sleep when youre dead!"

Beesandcheese · 02/09/2019 11:43

She's a whiny cow who's obviously jealous that Tom was prepared to consider other people's feelings. They won't last long if her entire repartee is complaining about other people. Maybe just feel bad that she can't just cracking on and enjoy herself

Beesandcheese · 02/09/2019 11:44

Good job she's not looking to marriage really. Grin

hardyloveit · 02/09/2019 11:46

@RosesAndRaindrops haha ! I love it too! I'm always quoting it irl and some people look at me like I'm crazy 😂

helpmum2003 · 02/09/2019 11:56

You two clearly don't get on. She probably doesn't like you.

I would do whatever you need to do to make the rest of the holiday go as well as possible.

Then avoid her as much as possible while being nice and a good friend to Tom. You don't need her so don't waste any more time on her... And don't go on holiday with her again

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/09/2019 12:04

I don’t understand why you are getting all the flak. You discussed your concerns. Your dh was the one, who made the joke. I don’t see how you behaved badly. You never said you wanted to cancel.

Tom sounds like he may actually a massive people pleaser. He missed out on clubbing for reasons unknown. Did he do this to please someone else, I’m wondering? Anyway we know he offered to cancel the expensive night and he listened to Anna for 45 mins in earshot of his friends with very little interjection.

If Anna wanted to rant she should have done this on the walk home. She sounds very immature and lacking class. Idk what you would gain from pulling her about this now. But anymore shit from her, you would be wise to say something. Eg after a face pull saying “you seem not to be happy with that idea Anna” or some such.

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/09/2019 12:08

Bluntness
I am an early riser and cannot doze once awake. I’ve never been able to stay up all night. Some of us truly can’t. I did it once when I was 16/17 and was literally hallucinating the next day. I absolutely loathed going to weddings or family celebrations where dh comes from because they used to go on til at least 4am by which time I was an angry mess and had been trying to drag him out the door for at least an hour but we had to say goodbye to everyone in the room, which could take an hour and a half.

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