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I am a boderline alcoholic... And I need help

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freezemembership · 12/08/2019 15:20

I will drink at any chance I get.

Regularly will have 2 bottles of wine with husband in one sitting. He buys 1 and I will know he's getting one and buy another.

I won't consider anything less than 13%

I actually found myself at the weekend, when being offered a courtesy drink by someone, considering whether i needed to go out again.

My husband has called me out on it when I said I might go out for wine with a friend in the week. I agreed this weekend that we would only drink at the weekend and limit it to 1 bottle of wine between us.

"So I just sit back and watch you turn into an alcoholic? Because that's what you're doing"

This is the sucker punch. Right there. And asking whether it is right for our DS' future.

I feel fucking awful. Its there. Black and white what my husband thinks ad feels.

What the fuck do I do?

OP posts:
Shannith · 12/08/2019 19:30

@Herocomplex is right. Get a hobby, willpower etc is how you break a habit.

Addiction to alcohol is a disease. OP I should say I don't want to scare you, but I do.

Admitting you have a problem is a start but you have to understand what you are admitting to.

To be fair your GP probably can't do much but you should get your liver function tested.

Chances are you "only" have a fatty liver. I did. GP told me it would go back to normal if I stopped drinking for a few months. Excellent I thought. I'll just cut down.

And I did for oh a month. Then back to "normal".

Then normal became every night. Terribly middle class drinking. Only wine. If got away with it for years and years.

A year later cirrhosis. 6 months later full blown liver disease.

I have heard hundreds of alcoholics tell their stories and many start like yours and mine.

I hope you can cut down/give up. If you can't please seek help from AA.

I sound like an AA evangelist. I was the most cynical anti AA person you could ever meet.

I dragged myself to meetings, ignored the god stuff and listened to people's stories.

People in AA are almost all brutally honest about their drinking and where it led them.

I'd say go to a meeting just to listen to some stories and see if you see any similarities. I suspect you will.

Then you can decide what to do.

Good luck

Mammyloveswine · 12/08/2019 19:46

I've recently made a conscious effort to cut down on drinking..it became a habit to open the wine when the kids went to bed. My husband works away and I have a stressful job.

I have swapped wine for G&T and pour the slimline tonic in a huge glass almost to the top. Then two capfuls (around a 35ml measure in total) of gin. I can manage 2 because the tonic fills me.

One fri or sat I will still have a bottle of wine, if I happen to be out I'll happily have wine and feel no guilt as it's so rare!

I have started running and have been doing the couch to 5k. Those 3 nights I don't drink.

I often have fancy pop with frozen berries in a wine glass instead of alcohol.

I knew I had a problem when I had a glass of wine at 2pm one afternoon whilst watching a film with the kids. My 3 year old asked for a drink like mummy. I vowed there and then that me drinking would NOT be his norm!

OP I think you are being very brave and strong. Maybe try and cut down at first and regain that control, buy the small bottles of wine or the cans of gin and tonic.

Feel free to pm me. I resonated a lot with your post.

Nonnymum · 12/08/2019 19:58

Don't be ashamed but please do get some help. I have a friend who became an alcoholic very gradually without anyone including her realising what was happening. She now has alcohol induced dementia and the lovely, person I know is no longer there. You have made the first step by realising you have a problem (she never did). Now you can do something about it. Well done and Good luck!

Cobblersandhogwash · 12/08/2019 20:00

@Shannith how are you now? Is your liver recovered?

I truly hope you are going from strength to strength.

6demandingchildren · 12/08/2019 20:25

I feel you, I drink to get rid of the constant pain im in.
But some days I try and limit myself and I find drinking out of a wine glass helps as it feels like I'm having a "proper" drink
I was such a fitness freak before I had a stroke my husband still looks after his body and I feel guilty.
Its bloody hard when you get addicted but you can pull yourself back but if you do it by yourself do it gradually and if you slip up then get right back on it. You wouldn't throw a dozen roses away if one had gone bad so don't let any slip ups ruin the good days.

freezemembership · 12/08/2019 20:59

Gentle hugs and love to all..

I've taken an even bigger step this evening. I've told my closest friend.

She never judges. Ever. And she has told me shes glad I have identified an issue and decided a definite plan of action and that she is behind me all the way.

This means a massive amount.

Sleep well all. And thank you again for all your advice and stories.

Just enjoyed a cup of tea. Really did. Haven't had a cuppa at nighttime for a long time!

OP posts:
inboxmayhem · 12/08/2019 21:08

@Shannith you've struck a chord with me. You're the first I've listened to in a long time.

I've tried it all, just can't seem to do the first step.

Haggisfish · 12/08/2019 22:02

I’m in similar position. Sought help and it was a bit crap, really, so am now back to where I feared I would be...gradually getting worse

hmwhatsmynameagain · 12/08/2019 22:07

Are you drinking to defy him?

hmwhatsmynameagain · 12/08/2019 22:08

Or avoid life?

JeanPagett · 12/08/2019 22:18

I wish I had sought help for my drinking problem much earlier than I did.

If you think your drinking is a concern please, please do what I didn't and knock it on the head now. Don't let people telling you you're being melodramatic and "aren't really an alcoholic" put you off.

I really am an alcoholic and I didn't tackle what I knew was a very problematic attitude towards alcohol until I had fucked up my career and my family life. I can't tell you how much I wish I had had the courage to address it before it reached that stage.

I assure you no one at AA will think you're being silly or overreacting if you want to reach out. Thanks

Shannith · 12/08/2019 23:04

@freezemembership well done.

I did that. Told everyone I was an alcoholic. Thought that by admitting I had a problem it would go away. I did "step one" so to speak.

But I didn't stop drinking. Oh I stopped in public. Didn't have any choice. So I drank in private. What I called in my head real drinking.

Only you can decide if you are an alcoholic. I'm not sure there is such a thing as borderline or indeed functional alcoholic. I would have said I was a high functioning alcoholic for about 10 years before the wheels came off.

I think I read/heard this about 50 times going yeah yeah yeah I know, whatever until I finally got it.

It's long and a bit preachy but perhaps worth listening to what an alcoholic has to say before thinking that going to the gym/swapping wine for nice gin works.

Most of us have been unwilling to admit we were real alcoholics. No person likes to think he is bodily and mentally different from his fellows. Therefore, it is not surprising that our drinking careers have been characterized by countless vain attempts to prove we could drink like other people. The idea that somehow, someday he will control and enjoy his drinking is the great obsession of every abnormal drinker. The persistence of this illusion is astonishing. Many pursue it into the gates of insanity or death.
We learned that we had to fully concede to our innermost selves that we were alcoholics. This is the first step in recovery. The delusion that we are like other people, or presently may be, has to be smashed.
We alcoholics are men and women who have lost the ability to control our drinking. We know that no real alcoholic ever recovers control. All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals - usually brief - were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.
We are like men who have lost their legs; they never grow new ones. Neither does there appear to be any kind of treatment which will make alcoholics of our kind like other men. We have tried every imaginable remedy. In some instances there has been brief recovery, followed always by a still worse relapse. Physicians who are familiar with alcoholism agree there is no such thing as making a normal drinker out of an alcoholic. Science may one day accomplish this, but it hasn't done so yet.
Despite all we can say, many who are real alcoholics are not going to believe they are in that class. By every form of self-deception and experimentation, they will try to prove themselves exceptions to the rule, therefore nonalcoholic. If anyone who is showing inability to control his drinking can do the right- about-face and drink like a gentleman, our hats are off to him. Heaven knows, we have tried hard enough and long enough to drink like other people!
Here are some of the methods we have tried: Drinking beer only, limiting the number of drinks, never drinking alone, never drinking in the morning, drinking only at home, never having it in the house, never drinking during business hours, drinking only at parties, switching from scotch to brandy, drinking only natural wines, agreeing to resign if ever drunk on the job, taking a trip, not taking a trip, swearing off forever (with and without a solemn oath), taking more physical exercise, reading inspirational books, going to health farms and sanitariums, accepting voluntary commitment to asylums - we could increase the list ad infinitum.
We do not like to pronounce any individual as alcoholic, but you can quickly diagnose yourself. Step over to the nearest barroom and try some controlled drinking. Try to drink and stop abruptly. Try it more than once. It will not take long for you to decide, if you are honest with yourself about it. It may be worth a bad case of jitters if you get a full knowledge of your condition.

Shannith · 12/08/2019 23:28

@inboxmayhem and @Haggisfish I am hear listening.

I have been you. I am you.

I wish I could say if you carry on you will lose your life, your family, your health and you'd go ta da! Ok now I can see where this ends I'll stop, thanks for the tip.

You will. I did but that didn't make me stop. Dying (twice) didn't make me stop.

Please call AA on 0800 9177 650 or contact us by email: [email protected]

Everyone who answers is a recovered alcoholic. There is nothing you could say or admit to that they won't have done/felt themselves.

They will tell you to get to a meeting. You will probably tell them to fuck off. I did.

But I did go, after technically dying for a second time and via a month in rehab. And I still go.

I'd never have believed I'd get sober. I'd given up on life. AA is a bunch of alcoholics who give there time to help other alcoholics get and stay sober.

It works. There is literally nothing you can say in an AA meeting that would surprise anyone in there.

Mostly people nod in recognition

I am a cynical, sarcastic atheist. I spent ages railing against all the god bollocks and that they refer to god as Him.

Go to a meeting. And keep going. I went to loads hoping that the act of going would make me sober. Doesn't really work if you have to go to the loo half way through the meeting to drink wine from your water bottle.

Well actually it does. Eventually.

Please pm if you want.

Haggisfish · 12/08/2019 23:40

Thank you. I may well pm you. I have a slight issue in that I am a teacher and worry in case of recognition etc.

AmICrazyorWhat2 · 12/08/2019 23:48

...in spite of the high volume of alcohol I was consuming, I was 'only' psychologically addicted.

It sounds as if you're in a similar situation to this poster, you're "mentally" addicted to having a drink to unwind and stave off boredom. Substituting soft drinks and activities like the gym are great ideas and will hopefully break the habit.

I'm v. fond of wine and see it as an evening treat - but I also love tall soft drinks like a lime and soda that taste like a treat as well. You need to find something that works for you. Good luck, I think you can do this. Flowers If you're struggling, do get help as other have suggested.

timshelthechoice · 12/08/2019 23:56

Shannith, I've never had a problem with alcohol but your posts are truly amazing and inspiring. I wish you well in your recovery.

Personally, I get terrible hangovers so I've never seen the appeal of getting drunk for this reason. It's so common for people to get into a very unhealthy relationship with booze.

howdyalikemenow · 13/08/2019 00:08

@freezemembership - well done with the tea. And talking to your friend.

All this is just One day at a time. And if a day is too long, the next hour at a time. Or minute. Whatever works.

Don't think about tomorrow or next week. Or next year. Because that's scary and a long time away and hard to 'be good' for all that time. But you can do the next minute. And then the one after that and after that again.

Wishing you all the best Thanks

CottonSock · 13/08/2019 06:32

Op, you mentioned the books suggested were expensive, but probably no more than a bottle of wine? Have one less this week.. think differently and spend money on helping yourself. Drinkers like me is on iPlayer and very good (and free).

cheeseandbiscuitss · 13/08/2019 06:51

Read kick the drink easily by Jason vale- it got me on the road to an everyday drinker (bottle wine a night) to a weekend drinker bottle of wine over Friday and Saturday. 5 sober days a week and 2 low alcohol. With the occasional blow out. But, the main thing is my life doesn't revolve around drink like it used to. I don't rearrange plans to have said drink and I now enjoy my Friday night glass guilt free

freezemembership · 13/08/2019 08:56

@CottonSock You make a fair point. instead of buying 4 bottles of wine a week, I could buy 4 books.

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CottonSock · 13/08/2019 09:13

Exactly! The first book I read I finished in a day. I didn't think it would be relevant to me but it was.

Shannith · 13/08/2019 10:46

@Cobblersandhogwash thanks.

Amazingly my liver (what is left of it) is now functioning normally.

This in no way means I have got away with it. Lots of alcohol related health problems and I'll be on medication for the rest of my life.

But I'm sober. And alive. And grateful one day at a time. Well, most days... still human Smile

lazylinguist · 13/08/2019 10:54

There's some staggeringly stupid and irresponsible advice on here. Well done for recognising the problem and beginning to tackle it, OP, rather than reacting defensively to your dh's concerns. Having an alcohol problem is not solely to do with quantity, as the wiser people on this thread have pointed out.

Shannith · 13/08/2019 11:00

@timshelthechoice thank you. I'm glad the hangovers put you off.

Be thankful they do!

@freezemembership sorry I feel like I hijacked your post a bit.

The best advice I can give is be totally honest, both with yourself and your friend and anyone else you talk to about this.

People with alcohol problems are excellent at minimising how much they drink, why they drink and the effects it has on people around them.

If you do one thing it's stop hiding how much you drink and want to drink. Once you cross that line - deceit by omission is still deceit - the lines you are willing to cross - lines that you never thought/believed/said you would become surprisingly easy to cross.

Don't let it become I'll never drink when in charge of DC, I'll never drink anything other than 1 bottle of wine and two gins in the evening... because once you do - and I hate to say this but if you continue on the path you are on you probably will - then all bets are off fairly quickly.

I'll shut up now. Well done for admitting you are worried. You are brave and doing something at this point is far better than carrying on.

The truth, which you won't want to hear, is that you should stop drinking all together. That sounds impossible but please believe me becoming a full blown alcoholic will kill you.

I wish you all the best. Keep posting if that helps.

I used to sit in AA meetings going why the fuck am I here. I am nothing like these people. Then you hear a story that is exactly you.

Turns out I am just like those people and by keeping it simple one day at a time bunches of random strangers who can't drink like normal people just about saved my life.

timshelthechoice · 13/08/2019 11:57

A friend who is a recovering alcoholic once told me something that really stuck with me: 'You can't buy those mornings!' And went on to describe how life is for her now she wakes with a clear head, no dicky tummy, no worries about what she might have said or done the night before, no worrying if she'd overspent whilst drunk, no worrying if people could smell booze on her even after a shower and mouthwash or even not having a morning at all if she was off work and her son was with his dad and she didn't get out of bed till mid-afternoon, how alcohol didn't really help her stress. As she said, 'My son still had special needs and I was a drunk into the bargain! It just made everything worse and harder to deal with.' Alcohol is a depressant. Keep that in mind.

I really hope you can find a way to change things, OP. Life can be very fulfilling and not at all boring without booze.

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