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Jeffrey Epstein dead

301 replies

MrsVanCleef · 10/08/2019 14:21

Al the scandals buried. DAMN!!

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Iggly · 11/08/2019 13:55

Personally I find it disgusting people (bots) are pointing the finger at Bill Clinton as if it’s a party political issue.
Fucks sake, this is bigger.

TerracottaLeggy · 11/08/2019 13:57

I find it more disgusting that anyone would overlook the sex crimes of Clinton because they like his party, don't you?

Bornfreebutinbiscuits · 11/08/2019 14:01

Viques I agree, how could he compartmentalise that. Daughter v very young girl and surely the girls very presence would be known to be under duress.

derxa · 11/08/2019 14:10

It's a murky world that is inhabited by the rich and famous. Fools like Andrew are reeled in by the promise of money and then subject to blackmail.

Bornfreebutinbiscuits · 11/08/2019 14:25

Dexra surely members of Royal family would be least susceptible to lure of big bucks

derxa · 11/08/2019 14:40

Dexra surely members of Royal family would be least susceptible to lure of big bucks But that's what I'm saying. Andrew and Fergie are grifters extraordinaire. The pursuit of money seems to rule their lives. Everyone has their weaknesses but I'm not sure that sex with young girls is one of Andrew's.

merrymouse · 11/08/2019 15:00

Dexra surely members of Royal family would be least susceptible to lure of big bucks

It's all relative. Andrew is one of the royals who gets an allowance from the Queen, which is probably enough to cover your outgoings if you want to mix with the hunting/shooting/fishing set, but not enough to compete with the private jets and islands set.

The Queen's wealth is valued in hundreds of millions, not billions, and a lot of it will be tied up in property that is very expensive to maintain and difficult to sell.

For comparison the Duchess of Cambridge's brother in law James Matthews is supposed to be a billionaire.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/08/2019 16:26

Both Andrew and Charles have given a veneer of respectability to some really nasty individuals. Pleading ignorance is no longer acceptable

No, but as with the Palace's claim that he "did nothing illegal", it's the best we're going to get. The response to Charles's support of the paedophile Peter Ball was exactly the same, and clearly they expected the peasants to swallow that too

On the subject of how Andrew could have used girls of the same age as his daughters, I agree with the PP who said it just wouldn't have occurred to him. Despite pretences they consider themselves a breed apart, and with the influence they can bring to bear that's not going to change any time soon

derxa · 11/08/2019 16:46

Born Sorry I misread your post.merrymouse explained what I meant well.

RosiePosiePuddle · 11/08/2019 17:21

This thread on datalounge has some real dirt on Jeffery Epstein www.datalounge.com/thread/24294491-jeffrey-epstein-arrested-part-3

Go to the link at post 316 for a jaw-dropping account of trump and Epstein together. It is too horrible for me to copy and paste the link.

Whosorrynow · 11/08/2019 17:32

woah is that for real??
www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-267d-dda3-afd8-b67d3bc00000

CoffeeRunner · 11/08/2019 17:34

RosiePosie

Disgusting. But sadly, utterly believable.

Notmyrealname855 · 11/08/2019 17:44

That Politico link is vile

Angry
CarolDanvers · 11/08/2019 17:53

I think this thread will end up being deleted. That link is terrifying. This horrendous person is POTUS. I'm genuinely horrified.

FermatsTheorem · 11/08/2019 18:00

Media watch rate politico as highly factually accurate and with a very low bias:

mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/

Whosorrynow · 11/08/2019 18:02

I'm surprised that people are surprised about the content of the politico link.
I apologize if I have jeopardized the thread by posting it, please feel free report my post if I've acted wrongly

CarolDanvers · 11/08/2019 18:10

No. I wasn't saying that at all. I've just seen threads be deleted in the past when it gets a bit close to the knuckle. You haven't done anything wrong Smile

Outsomnia · 11/08/2019 18:31

I don't know too much about this case, apart from trafficking of underage girls for the pleasure of older men by the daughter of another odious man. Which is absolutely awful.

However when I read somewhere that Epstein had a pad in Mar a Lago and Trump did too, a lightbulb went off in my head for some reason....

But of course the Orange one is completely innocent, he doesn't drink alcohol and goes to church.

Deep State indeed. And to protect themselves, well the extinction of Epstein had to happen. If indeed it has actually. I would believe nothing now.

As another poster has said, it is quite frightening the power some of these people have, and they will do anything to protect that wealth and power.

Whosorrynow · 11/08/2019 19:14

thanks @CarolDanvers:)
we've all seen this right?

'Newly unearthed video from 1992 shows future President Donald Trump partying with financier and now accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein'
vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 11/08/2019 19:30

This is all going to get really nasty

placemats · 11/08/2019 19:49

Shit will hit the fan, however, the really nasty will get off with not even a hair rumpled.

Brahumbug · 11/08/2019 19:52

He wasn't on suicide watch when he died, he had been taken off. I wonder if allowing him to kill himself was convenient to the powers that be.

BelindasGleeTeam · 11/08/2019 19:57

Epstein had 14 different phone numbers for Trump. They were definitely good friends for that to have happened.

Outsomnia · 11/08/2019 19:59

I am speculating now, so sorry and I know I shouldn't.

But a thought crossed my head. If he was held in a jail that had the death penalty, he could have had a lethal injection. Even if he wasn't, it could still happen I suppose. There are ways and means.

But Trump will be re elected in 2020. So let's brace ourselves. It is actually quite frightening. And we have actually no clue as to what happens here in this country either.

Mushrooms we are.... keep us in the dark and feed us full of shit. OK.

youarenotkiddingme · 11/08/2019 20:15

I have never been a Trump fan.
I watched the Netflix documentary drama about Central Park 5 and what Trump said about them at the time.

Him being accused of being involved doesn't surprise me.

I watch him talk and the guy is dead behind the eyes.

Now, I in NO WAY condone any of this (obviously!) but how does a 13/14yo end up going to these parties whole plane journeys away. Surely if your 13yo mentioned this you'd be wondering what exactly they are doing and where they are going?