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Lying child at the end of my tether

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PeachPrincess · 11/05/2019 08:48

I’ve been really good friends with one of the school mums since our girls started at nursery together. Our DDs are now 10.

I was worried about the mum for years as she was in a very controlling relationship with her husband that got worse and worse as the years went on. She finally ended the relationship last year.

Financially she’s been really struggling she works full time but has a low paid job he doesn’t pay maintenance. Every day since September I’ve been collecting her DD from school and looking after her for 1.5/ 2 hours until her mum gets back from work. The arrangement in itself is fine and I’m happy to help her out as she is a good friend.

I’ve been doing the after school collections for just over 7 months and I don’t think I can’t continue with it due this girls constant lies that are usually aimed at me.

Some recent examples are we went to a ice cream shop and we all had one but I wouldn’t allow her DD to have one. DDs new Guinea pig bit this girl, we apparently all made pizza from scratch but I didn’t allow her any and made her watch whilst we ate them.

Each time this girl tells her mum these lies she confronts me every single time believing her. The ice cream example mum had given me money for her DDs and then asked for the money back, luckily I’d taken a photo of the girls with there impressive ice creams. The mums response was she “must of forgot”. The Guinea pig lie I was called out on, we hadn’t actually got it yet. DD had said to the girl she was getting one. The mum messaged about being bitten and I said she was welcome to check the empty hutch the next day, she did and the response was “don’t know where her DD got that from then” I was also called out on the pizza example, I had bought pizza for our tea from the supermarket it was on the kitchen counter we hadn’t made them or eaten them so I sent her a photo of them on the side. Her DD “ must have been mistaken” it’s all the time and im sick of being constantly questioned/ accused of these things I never get a apology it’s just brushed off.

She’s constantly telling lies in front of me to her mum silly things like “it’s dress up day tomorrow” “I let my dd have a snack / drink but not her” every single time I pull her up on it in front of the mum and it’s brushed off and a excuse made for it.

Thursday I mentioned to both girls I needed to go into school and check if after school club was on for yesterday as the school had said it may need to be cancelled and we would be informed either way. The girl assured me it was on, DD said the teacher had said something about the club but she was chatting so didn’t hear what was said. Why I trusted her I don’t know, I get a call from school to say I hadn’t collected them. I got to school and questioned why we weren’t told, apparently the kids were told club was canceled on Thursday. I asked the girl why she had lied to me and she shrugged and said “i thought it would be funny” her grandparents picked her up and are having her overnight so I’m now waiting for a message from her mum for no doubt forgetting to collect them or some other tale.

I can’t continue this arrangement anymore as I cannot put up with the hassle of it. Am I right feeling this way? It’s caused a few arguments between me and DH as he has been saying for months to knock this on the head as he’s worried Incase she makes up some serious lies that we can’t prove.

How much notice do you think I should give? Also should I be honest with the mum about my reasoning? I’ve wimped out of a few situations in the past with her.

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Contraceptionismyfriend · 11/05/2019 18:30

The OPs message is a lot better.

Mayalready · 11/05/2019 18:31

Well done op.

BentBaastard · 11/05/2019 18:32

No
She needs to say that her daughter is the reason she can no longer care for her

Hi friend

After this weeks antics, I no longer have the strength to keep looking after your daughter. On a daily basis she feels the need to have oneupmanship on me and I can no longer look after her.
I am giving you one weeks notice and after that you will need to find alternative childcare.

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FlyingMonkeys · 11/05/2019 18:37

Stick to your message OP it's all true not sugarcoated. Mum may huff and feel your aren't suitable to look after her dd now you've 'forgotten' to pick her up anyway. It sounds like mum is determined to protect her dd and stand up for her due to the abusive ex. Which is completely understandable but she probably feels too guilty about dd being exposed to what she has been to pull her up when her lies are exposed.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 11/05/2019 18:39

Do not give her notice. As PP said the Daughter could see this as a last chance to go out with a bang.
You can not risk your family.

SunshineCake · 11/05/2019 18:42

Solitudes message does the dd no favours. Don't send what isn't true.

amusedbush · 11/05/2019 18:46

Don’t beat around the bush. She needs to know that her daughter’s behaviour (and by extension her parenting) is the cause.

Your message is perfect, OP.

Ginger1982 · 11/05/2019 18:49

I would forget the bit about after school club as the mum may say that you should have checked rather than rely on either kid and then you lose the moral high ground.

SmellMySmellbow · 11/05/2019 18:52

"I have talked it over with DH and I need to let you know that I cannot continue to collect and look after .... from school. Her constant lying and you challenging me have become too much now. It happened again on Thursday with her saying after school club was on (it wasn't, as I found out when the school phoned me), and when I asked her why she just shrugged and said "I thought it would be funny." It's exasperating and unpleasant having to constantly defend myself to you over these lies. I'm anxious about them escalating and one day being about something I can't easily disprove, as you seem keen for me to continuously do.
So I am ending the arrangement with immediate effect."

SmellMySmellbow · 11/05/2019 18:52

I kept a bit in about the club just as he reaction to being found out in the lie is pretty shocking...

SmellMySmellbow · 11/05/2019 18:54

I also made it a bit more about the mum as I think that's the real problem - her way of dealing with both the lying and with the OP is awful.

Stifledlife · 11/05/2019 18:56

How about..
Hi xxxx,
I'm having a problem at the moment, and I hope you understand.

As you know your DD has been telling stories about her treatment with me and her time with us after school. I am becoming increasingly concerned that she will tell an untruth to someone other than you, and I and my family will end up being accused of something untrue.

I know your first duty is to your daughter, and as I wouldn't like our relationship to suffer, I think it's best if you make other arrangements for her after school care.

I know your circumstances are difficult, and she has been through a lot too, so I feel it's best for all parties concerned to disengage at this point before any misunderstandings happen.

It's a bit softer, whilst being firm, and it makes the reason behind your decision clear.

Contraceptionismyfriend · 11/05/2019 18:59

The reason doesn't have to be clear. No body has come up with a better message than OP herself.

Posters are actually over bloody complicating it!!!
OP owes this woman nothing.
No explanation, no notice and no softening the blow.

3luckystars · 11/05/2019 18:59

Your message is good.

Just keep it simple.

She will try to apologise and say everything to get free childcare from you, but keep saying no. You are playing with fire, do not look after this girl again under any circumstances.

I know the mother is in a difficult situation but you have helped her enough now. Keep saying no, no matter what.

Mississippilessly · 11/05/2019 19:00

Please please do not put a suggestion in her mind of anything more serious. it makes you sound like you are covering something up!

How about:
Hi x. I'm very sorry but I cant look after y after school anymore. I'm tired of having to defend myself and prove that I am telling the truth. I am afraid that this will be from now. I hope you get something sorted.

No blaming the child, no getting to the ins and outs, as nicely worded as possible but above all as clear as a bell.

SmellMySmellbow · 11/05/2019 19:02

Ah yeah, you're right...

PegLegAntoine · 11/05/2019 19:07

Stay strong OP don’t let her manipulate you like her DD does

Samind · 11/05/2019 19:10

How do you think her mum will react to your message?

You're doing the right thing for your own protection!

BibbyDarling · 11/05/2019 19:15

Great message OP.
Stick with it.

youarenotkiddingme · 11/05/2019 19:28

Agree with not giving example. Especially that one as it is open to her arguing because your DD didn't hear.

I just go with.

As your dd isn't happy with us and so lies about unkind actions, which you tend to believe. We are stopping the arrangement.

If she comes back and says anything you can say that she's clearly not happy either as she believes her DD - so best for everyone it's ending.

ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 11/05/2019 19:28

Good luck!

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 11/05/2019 19:34

As Contraception said - your DH has probably seen what's coming. You absolutely need to protect him, because it's only a matter of time.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 11/05/2019 19:36

Sorry - didn't refresh the thread! I think that message is perfect.

Bringbackthestripes · 11/05/2019 20:04

Well done OP.

Do let us know her response!

shatteredandstressed · 11/05/2019 20:09

Just send your message, it's the truth.
Good luck
You're a saint to have put up with this for 7 months.