Do you ever look at someone and think I really want to give them a make over ? There’s a Mum I see on the school run, probably about 40

[Lardlizard]

Lovely slim body, and I thjnk she could really improve her look as she wears these baggy jeans
Awful trainers and fleeces and her hair is like a bush
I think even if she wanted to dress casually, she would look so so much better with some jeans that fitted well, some nice smart trainers, she’s. It not making the most of herself, somedays she clearly works as she will wear a skirt with heals and a fleece

I wouldn’t want to be so rude or ever say anything but I just think could sill dress just as causally, bit look so much better

Glasgow, @Ellenborough. There are a lot of art school students who wear things like wolf fleeces. Often paired with a moustache and rolled up trouser legs. Early 90s shellsuit tops (the type Gazza used to wear!) are also popular with them. It's quite a look!

I don't get the pyjama people.

It's not so bad the ones driving like loons in cars/vams as I assume someone over slept - or keep doing it. It's the ones in obvious pj and slippers dawdling along that confuse me.

Probably makes me a terrible person. Though I probably look worse on school runs than this woman.

And in the middle of our constitutional crisis we have a mum worrying about someone else's mum jeans and old trainers on the school run.

Not the point of the thread I know but any chance you could give me some pointers @Lardlizard? I've just turned 40, 3 kids, 2 step kids and a full time office gig plus various IT industry stuff and I look like fucking Hagrid.

Fiddle I thought I has my finger loosely on the pulse of all things hipster and ironic (from a polite, middle aged distance) but clearly it's time to hand in my badge and take enforced retirement because I clearly know nothing.

Yes I do. Christ, you’re brave, some of the responses have been somewhat aggressive.

I’d love someone to give me a make over. I wonder if I’m the mum you’re talking about actually? I’ve taken to wearing dhs old jeans and a baggy to shirt but I’m pretty slim underneath!

I see a middle aged woman every day, that lives in jeans and tee shirts. Her jumpers and hoodies don’t even match! 😱 She wears big chunky boots and most of the time her grey roots are showing. She’s also out on a bit of weight lately. I’ve seen her dressed up and she looks so much younger.

I sometimes want to shake her and tell her to pull herself together as she could look so much better and others would take her more seriously.

But then I stop looking in the mirror, think of my late husband, my youngest with LD, autism and epilepsy. Am amazed that I’m able to look after my child, a home, my own successful business, keep a healthy relationship with my wonderful in-laws and close friends and I judge very very harshly the shallow, vacant women that judge others for how they look. For those women who look after their appearance, but don’t judge others, thank you 💐 🍫 🍷 As for the the judgemental assholes, I have this for you. 🖕As for the happy scruffs amongst us, eat chocolate, drink wine, love and be loved and remember this

Judging is giving too much value on the surface and missing the value beneath

Dee Dee Artner

She may be dressing like that deliberately to deflect attention

I saw a young woman on American "What Not to Wear" - she was tall, slim, model-like and lived in LA. She was into jeans, lumberjack shirts and uggs. She has long unstyled hair in lovely condition and wore little to no make-up. Looked good. If she dolled herself up, she could have been STUNNING as she was after makeover. She'd have attracted a lot of attention. The thing is, she didn't want to and reverted back to her original ways. She honestly was happier the way she was. If I remember correctly ('twas a long time ago) she worked with animals so was better to dress practically anyway.

Loads of people also truly do not give a shit about how other people dress

especially on the school run of all places

runmy maybe those replying in an 'agressive* way are just frustrated at the fact women are still being judged by their appearance.... in a way that men rarely are.
It's disgusting and deserves an agressive response.

I strongly disagree about the need for shit loads of makeup to look better.

A bit can help, and it's properly done you wont' notice it's there.
Being tarted up just look like you covered yourself in various shades, it does not mean you look better.

No I never think this.

And it’s one of my fears that people might be looking at me and thinking this! So great to know they probably are....

Hah! You would faint at the sight of me then OP. I look like i've been dressed by a blind man in the dark, with hair that looks like its been in an industrial wind tunnel.
I don't give a fig what anyone thinks of my appearance, i give even less for what someone else's appearance is like.
When i'm going out socially, yes, i will put my nice clothes on and do my hair, otherwise, sod off.

It's funny, I went to a social thing the other day and met a new woman who was probably in her late 50's. She was a real stereotypical glamour puss.

As soon as I walked in the room I noticed her. She stood out like a sore thumb against the rest of us, some of whom are quite well groomed but not in any try-hard way, and some of whom are a bit more 'homely' looking, to put it politely.

This woman had the lot; lip fillers, cheek fillers, botox, long bleached blonde straightened long hair, long fake nails in a lurid colour, a boob job, eyelash extensions, full make up and quite 'young' clothes. She was a very attractive woman but it was all a bit much and she looked a bit like a caricature. I couldn't decide whether she looked great, or faintly ridiculous.

I think it was proof that while we all could do with taking better care of our appearance, there is a great deal of value in the Less is More approach, even (or especially) when you are no longer a young woman.

Or maybe her husband is an utter bastard who won't allow her to wear make up and do her hair or life has taken its toll and her confidence is at rock bottom. And then someone like you comes alone and judges her AGAIN. maybe look beyond the packaging, befriend her and offer a hand. You never know, you may surprise yourself and never judge on looks again.

with hair that looks like its been in an industrial wind tunnel. 🤣

You just reminded me of when I used to direct the vents from the car air conditioner towards my wet hair, when driving in to do a 12hr night shift. 😁

MadameAnchou

Big apologies, not sure how I did that, I was intending to agree with your comment on it!

I was just going to agree with another one of your comments too but I’m scared to now 😬

No, I just couldn’t be arsed.

I don’t mind what people think of me, either. School run me and every day me are two completely different women

Haven't you got anything more important to think about? If No.... You're very Lucky Maybe this woman has a very ill child or a relative with a terminally ill relative and only has the energy to get her child to School
Unbelievable

People probably think this about me. Today I've been up since 5.30am, I've put on yesterday's jeans (yes with dirt on) and a band t-shirt, no make-up and hair is a complete mess. I've walked the dog then gone to the supermarket.
Saw a friend at the supermarket who was immaculately dressed, hair done etc. Now, she could judge me based on how I look, but she knows that I was grocery shopping for my elderly parents and that I would be going straight to their house.
One of my parents has advanced dementia, this means they attack me the minute I walk through the door. Because of the dementia they are doubly incontinent, if I'm not fast enough I literally get shit flung at me. I sit on their chair knowing that they've already peed on it a hundred times. If I try to feed them I get food thrown at me. I try to clean up as I go along but it depends what sort of mood they are in, it's difficult cleaning a bathroom when someone is intent on slapping you.

Perhaps I should be getting dressed up in some nicer jeans, maybe get a manicure? What do you reckon OP?

No, I can't say I ever look at other women and think "wow, you're just not good enough"

^^this
Although, its quite possibly me that you are talking about.

@S1naidSucks
@Seeleyboo
to you both and to all the others who like me have important stuff like life itself in all it's shitty glory to deal with .
Neither of you could of said it better. Thank you.

I really couldn't give a shiny shit about any of this. I love baggy jumpers with jeans.

If anyone tried to approach me to offer a makeover they would be firmly (but as politely as possible) be told that I am not interested. If they persisted they would be told to bugger off.