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Bloody Sunday prosecution

311 replies

Somerville · 14/03/2019 11:57

Only one man will be prosecuted for murdering civilians at the Bloody Sunday civil rights march.

The long-delayed inquiry found that all the killings were unjustified, that every adult and child who was killed had been unarmed, and that no warnings were gven before soldiers opened fire.

British justice at it's finest, eh?

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Imissgmichael · 14/03/2019 23:18

Almond the north of what? I was born in Lancashire and think religion causes far to much trouble. I have at no time said that the uk forces should be let off. I just think it’s one sided, terrorists on both sides during the troubled have been let off. That’s just wrong. If there’s going to be court cases then it should apply to everyone.

BeGoodTanya · 14/03/2019 23:21

You’re embarrassing yourself now, imiss. Toddle off, there’s a good girl/boy, and inform yourself before you froth.

almondfinger · 14/03/2019 23:23

OK, I'm going with loyalist. Possibly staunch loyalist?

Everyone else on this thread has put forward reasoned comments. No one is denying that some members of the IRA got away with murder, so to speak under the Good Friday Agreement. However they are managing to have a discussion without name calling. I see they have all stepped away.

What are you posting 'libel' about?

almondfinger · 14/03/2019 23:26

Ah, so all the posters who lived in NI through 'The trouble's' are idiots and should bow down to your superior knowledge of their reality?

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Imissgmichael · 14/03/2019 23:30

Begood why do I need a reading list? The IRA were murderers do you not agree?

my father

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FromEden · 14/03/2019 23:33

why is the government putting a member of the security forces on the dock whilst letting IRA known murderers off? Hello anyone

Why don't you start a thread about that if you're so concerned? You aren't though, you just want to derail. I wonder why?

Imissgmichael · 14/03/2019 23:41

Almond I’m Roman Catholic. I think that those guilty of murder should face the law. I think It’s wrong that so many murdering terrorists were given a clean slate.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 14/03/2019 23:46

This thread is about the prosecution of one of the Bloody Sunday murderers. If you want to discuss the murders carried out by the IRA you can start a thread on it but to try it derail this thread with it is pure and simple whataboutery and quite disgusting.

Imissgmichael · 14/03/2019 23:55

Ilive be very vey careful what you say.ive no idea if this soldier is guilty and neither do You.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 14/03/2019 23:57

Be very very careful? I was.

Imissgmichael · 15/03/2019 00:02

Begood feel free to send me a basic reading list. My 9 year old would like a laugh.

Sakura7 · 15/03/2019 00:07

Imiss You should take your own advice because you're posting utter shit.

Nobody is defending the IRA (or UVF or UDA, but strangley enough their victims rarely get a mention). But many of those perpetrators were tried and jailed before the GFA. Their victims received justice. Did you know that IRA members did over 100,000 years in jail between them? Loyalist paramilitaries did 60,000 years. As for the British Army? Only 4 were ever convicted of murder, and they got early release and went back into the army. Does that seem like balanced justice?

Imissgmichael · 15/03/2019 00:21

Sakura your a disgrace.

Sakura7 · 15/03/2019 00:26

Why Imiss? Because I think the cold blooded murder of innocent civilians by the army is a crime?

It's clear by your conflating of this issue with the IRA that you don't believe these people were innocent. You think all nationalists were in the IRA or supporting them. Which is utter bollocks.

Care to address any of the points I, and other posters, have made? Or are you just going to keep name calling?

Imissgmichael · 15/03/2019 00:32

No Sakura I’ve no idea if this soldier is guilty. Unlike people like you I’m not going to insist he’s guilty without due process.

Oh and yep it’s fucking wrong that terrorists have been given a clean slate.,

Sakura7 · 15/03/2019 00:47

Why don't you go and read the Savile report Imiss? And listen to the speech David Cameron gave after it was published.

The amnesties are difficult but it was a price worth paying to obtain a lasting piece. One thing that seems to be overlooked in Britain is that it was both republican and loyalist terrorists who were released. So all this "but the IRA" stuff is nonsense, unless you add in the UDA, UVF, etc.

Oswin · 15/03/2019 01:01

You show exactly who you are when you don't mention loyalist terrorists.
No the only people who you are mad at is the Ira.
Can you not just be angry at this event. To be able to read the list of names and how those poor people died, and spout your bullshit it beyond me.
They were sitting ducks ffs. Unarmed. Children.

Imissgmichael · 15/03/2019 01:08

Sakura I think I’ll listened-to the woman that lost both her legs is that ok with you. worth paying? Nope.

Imissgmichael · 15/03/2019 01:17

Oswin. Don’t be daft. Get a grip. I’ve made it clear that due process should be followed but it should be both ways.

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Miscella · 15/03/2019 01:22

Imiss - the only thing you’ve made clear is that you don’t think that British soldiers should be prosecuted for murdering innocent civilians, many of them teenagers.

CoachBombay · 15/03/2019 01:27

I am of the belief prosecuting one soldier is nothing short of throwing soldier F under the bus.

Bloody Sunday was nothing short of a massacre.

However the problem is when you are in a place when the situation can change in a split second you have to think in a split second, make a judgement call in a split second. It's kill or be killed. When you are watching, and suddenly you hear shots fired that's it, your not going to think one of your muckers has fired a round off randomly for no reason, you look left you look right you see everyone with raised rifles. Then you look front and there it is, running, chaos, projectiles, suddenly more shots fired. In the echo chamber of a built up area it's hard to immediately understand where shots have come from, all you know right now is shots fired, civil unrest ahead. In that split second the enemy is ahead, then the inevitable "open fire".

Paras are not programmed like your usually green fleet. They are trained to be dropped behind enemy lines, neutralise an enemy at any cost and carry out the objective. People always say there is an arrogance about them, that they always believe they are the best. Well they've been practically brainwashed in depo to this point. Stripped of names called nothing but "Joe" they are a number, they chant "what makes the grass grow? blood blood blood." Shouted at "it pays to be a winner Joe" . Basically their not renowned for their diplomacy and leeniancy when it comes to "the enemy".

This is the same regiment that some decade later were hailed heroes for their work in the Falklands, they hardly skipped through the island requesting to make daisy chains with Argentine Army as a peace offering!

I think what needs to be looked at, is not the actions of one soldier but the powers that be that decided the parachute regiment, and in particular that unit which had a reputation, why they were even placed anywhere near a civil rights march? It was tactically completely the wrong call, and the outcome I think sadly was inevitable.

Imissgmichael · 15/03/2019 01:31

Nope miscella your wrong. I’ve not
said that at all. Please feel free to quote where I’ve said that.

Dear god oswin. People died . You nasty nasty person.

FromEden · 15/03/2019 01:39

No Sakura I’ve no idea if this soldier is guilty. Unlike people like you I’m not going to insist he’s guilty without due process

Was he one of the soldiers who killed unarmed civilians on that day? Yes? Then he is guilty of murder. Read the reports ffs.

LucyBabs · 15/03/2019 01:40

imissgmichael I can only hope you're on the wind up. Otherwise you are an absolute tool

Backwoodsgirl · 15/03/2019 01:59

I think what needs to be looked at, is not the actions of one soldier but the powers that be that decided the parachute regiment, and in particular that unit which had a reputation, why they were even placed anywhere near a civil rights march? It was tactically completely the wrong call, and the outcome I think sadly was inevitable.

Agree, the Army did exactly what they were trained to do. They are not trained to take prisoners, that's the job of the police.

Same thing happened with the Spetznaz in Beslan