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British IS girl "wants to return to Britain"

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themoomoo · 14/02/2019 07:26

Said she has no regrets;
Says she's seen severed heads in bins but it didn't faze her.
Says living with IS lived up to her expectations.
Now she wants to come home to Britain as she's 9 months pregnant.

Sounds an ideal member of any sane society

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 15/02/2019 08:59

Half of me thinks she should be allowed back - to face whatever consequences there will be - at least in safety, with food and medical help guaranteed.
The other half thinks she can just stay and lie on the rotten bed she made.

However I would put money on her eventually somehow making it back, after which she'll be extensively interviewed and sent for de radicalisation, whether that works or not - and how is anyone to know for sure? People lie, and some can lie very convincingly.

The girl could well have lied to the Times journalist and pretended to regret bitterly her stupid, 15 year old decision. Would we have believed her if so?

Whether she did not do this out of brazen 'honesty' or because she feared reprisals, we can't know. She did admit to IS 'oppression and corruption'.

I suspect that ultimately she'll be living here with a new identity, to protect her from far right extremists, plus a home and income provided by the good old mug British taxpayer.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 15/02/2019 08:59

I have no sympathy for the loss of her children

Nor do I. I don't doubt that it tore her apart to lose them - but how many other children's deaths have she and her vile terrorist friends have caused? How many other mothers who want no part of conflict and haven't chosen it, the way she did have watched their precious babies suffer and die?

She does not deserve to return. I ache for her child, but there are many suffering children and many suffering others. As a PP said - the government would not let Asia Bibi come here, and she was being persecuted. Why shouldthcs horrible woman be allowed to come and go as she pleases?

LadyKalila · 15/02/2019 09:00

It is illegal to make anyone stateless.

It's also illegal to kill!

arsefeatures · 15/02/2019 09:03

You may be right. But I believe that doing something is better than doing nothing. Doing nothing absolutely guarantees that the gov't will do whatever they see as politically advantageous for them to do.

M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:05

hmm so this thread is in favour of hanging teenagers, and toddlers and babies dying to teach teenagers a lesson. But obvs is THEM that are barbaric.

I've had a bit of a check around the people I know in RL - sanity is restored...100% think she can't be stripped of nationality, her children dead and unborn didn't/don't deserve death and aren't enemy soldiers, if she comes back its prison for her and placement of the baby.

So glad I don't know any of you in RL.

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themoomoo · 15/02/2019 09:07

hmm so this thread is in favour of hanging teenagers, and toddlers and babies dying to teach teenagers a lesson
no it's not but it's good to see you've moved on from randomly shouting islamophobic at people.
Now all you need to do is form a rational opinion

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M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:07

nice to see you haven't moved on from personal attacks....still searching for an actual point to make?

arsefeatures · 15/02/2019 09:09

LadyKalia Ah ok, I didn't read your original post. I was responding to a second hand account of it. So my mistake/

In that case I agree with you 100%. Islamists who, in their pursuit of ideological purity and a goal of world domination (and I say that advisedly), seek to disrupt world affairs and weaken the West by killing without discrimination. This woman had chosen to help enable and represent that. She should not be allowed back in to this country under any circumstances.

MarthasGinYard · 15/02/2019 09:10

M3lon

You may do

Perhaps people in your life tell you what they think you wish to hear

M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:10

do you actually not see the post that says she should be hanged?

do you actually not see the post saying her family must be extremists because the father of another of the run away kids once went to a rally?

do you actually not see the multiple posts saying people aren't sorry her kids died?

do you actually no see the posts saying she shouldn't be allowed to give brith to more militant islamic soldiers?

If not why not?

Is it that you dare not look at what people who share your views also think?

StealthPolarBear · 15/02/2019 09:11

Lady we don't have eye for an eye laws

M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:13

marths well I asked what they thought and let them speak....they aren't cold readers, so I guess they would at least kick off with their own opinion.

The only person who was even vaguely near a 'fuck em' attitude complete reversed their opinion when they noticed she was a child when she left.

I just don't seem to know people who support the death penalty or don't give a shit about babies and toddlers suffering and dying just for the misfortune of their parents.

I'm really exceptionally glad about that.

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themoomoo · 15/02/2019 09:13

m3lon you're actually a little frightening. Do you find people are scared to disagree with you in real life?

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arsefeatures · 15/02/2019 09:17

Is it that you dare not look at what people who share your views also think?

That's unfair. Are you suggesting that: we who don't wish to see this Jihadist nutter returned to this country for quite different reasons, should give up that view rather than be grouped in with people with 'nastier' views on the matter?

The absurdity of that argument needs no explanation.

M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:17

still going after me and ignoring the content of my posts eh?

I'm a scientist...we do debate - a LOT of debate...but its focused on the issue, not so much on attacking the people.

StealthPolarBear · 15/02/2019 09:19

I agree e it s not fair on her baby. And all the other babies born into this shit that she's chosen to be a part of. Are we prioritising them too?

M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:21

Earlier in the thread I responded directly to someone expressing openly islamaphobic views and got attacked and told it was ridiculous to throw that word around.

Whether you like it or not, its pointless to pretend their aren't people on this thread saying some seriously reprehensible things.

Its crazy to fail to acknowledge that you're giving people the comfort zone to express those hideous ideas openly...essentially because your own opinions are right next door. Its worse to then criticise someone for calling them out.

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themoomoo · 15/02/2019 09:23

Okay love.... backs away quietly....

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M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:23

stealth The reason her baby would get priority is that it will be a british citizen.

I don't necessarily view citizenship as something that lives should turn on, but that's the way the law works. If you view this as a British baby born innocent into a refugee camp, I don't know why we aren't concerned to repatriate the baby.

StealthPolarBear · 15/02/2019 09:25

I am and I agree with you. But I do find accusations that others don't care about the baby a bit silly. You're right they have no rights. But theyre still innocent children, many born to innocent parents.

M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:26

still attacking moo?

Sorry that I and others have burst your little bubble. It must have been nice justifying your ethically reprehensible view point with the fact that everyone else would think the same....but it just isn't true.

There are a huge number of people out there who don't want to repay violence with violence and don't think babies should rot because their teenage mother made a very bad decision.

StealthPolarBear · 15/02/2019 09:27

I don't think any babies should rot. This is one of many.

M3lon · 15/02/2019 09:28

stealth look at the posts saying that people think she deserved to lose her children...that she shouldn't be allowed 'to pump out islamic soldiers'.

Of course there are a lot of people who do care about the children....but there are a lot who don't.

Don't assume I'm accusing ALL.....I'm accusing those who have actually said it.

And also those who try to shut down attempts to call out those people saying those things.

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themoomoo · 15/02/2019 09:29

m3len if you can find any of my posts which have advocated violence towards this woman or any children that would be helpful and also very surprising to me

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SinkGirl · 15/02/2019 09:29

Funny how people understand that a child groomed by a paedophile is a victim, but a child groomed by terrorists is evil.

Do you honestly expect her to condemn ISIS to journalists while living there?

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