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British IS girl "wants to return to Britain"

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themoomoo · 14/02/2019 07:26

Said she has no regrets;
Says she's seen severed heads in bins but it didn't faze her.
Says living with IS lived up to her expectations.
Now she wants to come home to Britain as she's 9 months pregnant.

Sounds an ideal member of any sane society

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teaandgingercake · 14/02/2019 18:27

It is the posters, however- on the article and on this thread - that are rabidly wanting to deprive the girl of her citizenship (and worse)

Great, proves that people are outraged and rightly so. Keep her out.

NotAFuckingYummyMummy · 14/02/2019 18:28

Bold fail Confused

Jux · 14/02/2019 18:28

Assuming she gives birth here, of course. Do you think that will make a difference to her desire to come back to the UK?

Al2O3 · 14/02/2019 18:28

I heard in her voice someone who had changed in three years from a stupid schoolgirl to a dangerous woman. Give her half a chance and she will strike back at our values and our children.

I am all for giving someone a second chance, but not this one. ISIS were a vile cult and the cancer it is is only in remission.

Aridane · 14/02/2019 18:29

I agree with the UK government, the legal position, the Daily Mail, and Jacob Rees Mogg (!!!!) (and Pyong) - that is, that as a British citizen the girl has the right to return to the UK (albeit she may be prosecuted on her return).

I would be appalled if the UK government acts outside or above the law to appease the paying public

HiHoToffee · 14/02/2019 18:32

*I agree with the UK government, the legal position, the Daily Mail, and Jacob Rees Mogg (!!!!) (and Pyong) - that is, that as a British citizen the girl has the right to return to the UK (albeit she may be prosecuted on her return).

I would be appalled if the UK government acts outside or above the law to appease the paying public*

Me too

straightjeans · 14/02/2019 18:32

Don't care that she is British. If she comes back she will slip through the net like the rest of them. Or nothing will be done until actual harm comes to innocent people. She can rot over there.

Al2O3 · 14/02/2019 18:34

Don’t forget what ISIS did: amongst other things raped kids, made kids kill other kids, strapped young boys aged 11 and 12 in suicide vehicles and made them drive towards targets under the the threat of a snipers rifle. All filmed and reseachable on the dark net.

Choccywoccyhooha · 14/02/2019 18:43

She was a child. Obviously a child who was vulnerable to online grooming and control to such an extent that she left her family. 15 year olds aren't "nearly adults" their brains are still developing.

You can't revoke citizenship, a person can't be made stateless.

derxa · 14/02/2019 18:45

She might respond to cult deprogramming She's a human being not a machine. She might respond or not. I think she is obvious risk taker who will find 'normal' life here very dull.
And what about all the others who have returned. Not much fuss about them.

Justanotherlurker · 14/02/2019 18:47

And what about all the others who have returned. Not much fuss about them

What do you mean by this?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/02/2019 18:51

I would be appalled if the UK government acts outside or above the law to appease the paying public

So would I, and in fact that's not what I want at all

What I do want is for the laws we already have to be used in the interests of keeping us all safe, and among those laws is the point that even joining a proscribed organisation is an offence

Whether the will exists to do that, and whether funds will be made available if it does, is another question entirely

derxa · 14/02/2019 18:52

What do you mean by this? I mean what happened to them, who are they etc. Factual stuff

woodhill · 14/02/2019 18:54

Hates the West ideology so much but would be quite happy to sponge off us I suspect. She's not going to be much use in the job market?

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themoomoo · 14/02/2019 18:55

i don't think there are many that have returned, are there?

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ReflectentMonatomism · 14/02/2019 18:57

Obviously a child who was vulnerable to online grooming

You can be standing in a chip shop and be approached by a man intent on grooming for sex.

You have to seek out videos by IS recruiters. They don’t show them on CBBC. IS recruiters only have access if you invite them into your world.

Justanotherlurker · 14/02/2019 19:00

I mean what happened to them, who are they etc. Factual stuff

They will be being monitored closely, I'm not sure what that has to do with this case though

Bunnyfuller · 14/02/2019 19:01

She will be coming back on a mission to radicalise others.

Yes, security services will be all over her but the insidious ways they employ will mean she will continue to do damage.

Justanotherlurker · 14/02/2019 19:09

She will be coming back on a mission to radicalise others.

Considering she was radicalised by Women it will be a possibility that the secret service would be monitoring I'm sure

Aridane · 14/02/2019 19:14

For moo

Return of the jihadis: The law in Britain and how only one in ten returning jihadis have been prosecuted
Britain has only prosecuted 40 citizens in five years who fled to join ISIS and then came back.

In 2018 security Minister Ben Wallace told MPs 400 Britons who travelled to join ISIS returned home - but only one in ten were put in the dock.

Around 850 Britons are believed to have travelled to Iraq and Syria, with around one in six believed to be dead.

The Home Office says every person who returns is questioned by police and an assessment made over whether they are a threat to Britain.

However few have been prosecuted.

The Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill is currently going through Parliament, after its third reading in the House of Lords.

It could make travelling abroad to join terror groups an offence which carries a penalty of ten years in prison.

The bill has now returned to the House of Commons for consideration of Lords amendments.

The lawyer for Shamima Begum's family has asked authorities to treat the girl, and any surviving friends, as victims.

It is not yet known if Amira Abase and Sharmeema Begum lived.

Aridane · 14/02/2019 19:15

< disclaimer _ can't verify accuracy of the above! >

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 14/02/2019 19:15

She will be a lightning rod for those of a similar mentality. They will hang on her every word and tales of life away from the crappy and stupid infidels (look we are being fed and housed by them and they know we hate them)..

She has no ounce of pity for those people who lost their heads (I wonder what their ‘crimes’ were? Less than murder and sedition I assume) let alone the civilians murdered, sold and raped by those like her husbands. This is why she (and the other stupid women and girls) was having babies - to bring up the good old cubs.

British citizen? Didn’t most of those who scurried off burn their uk passports and dedicate themselves to their new state?

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themoomoo · 14/02/2019 19:19

Aridane from what I have read, the vast majority of returnees maintain that they were doing aid work/ driving ambulances/ helping little old ladies across the road. That makes it hard to prosecute as it's very hard to know what each individual has done
This woman has been very open about supporting IS and actively encouraging others to join. That's why she will ( hopefully) be prosecuted if we are daft enough to let her in

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ReflectentMonatomism · 14/02/2019 19:21

She will be coming back on a mission to radicalise others

It isn’t that organised. IS no longer exists as a serious threat. That makes it worse; she will be a radicalised, unpredictable, lone wolf recruiter. If she were just a front for an organisation it’s easier.