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British IS girl "wants to return to Britain"

999 replies

themoomoo · 14/02/2019 07:26

Said she has no regrets;
Says she's seen severed heads in bins but it didn't faze her.
Says living with IS lived up to her expectations.
Now she wants to come home to Britain as she's 9 months pregnant.

Sounds an ideal member of any sane society

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Drivingbuttercup · 14/02/2019 12:17

At the age of 15 the girls were groomed and this is no different from a sex offender grooming for his/her benefit -only difference is she was groomed by a terrorist. The groomer promised the world to these girls and they fell for it. The fact she has not been fazed by the head in the bin tells us the crazy shit things she's seen. She has lost two children and she is battered and bruised.

mothertruck3r · 14/02/2019 12:17

Btw - she won't qualify for benefits here as she won't meet the habitual residency test requirements if she returns from Syria.

Actually, she's more likely to jump the social housing queue and be given priority treatment for things like housing and benefits to "rehabilitate" the poor darling;

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/home-office-jihadis-council-houses-isis-support-fight-terrorism-strategy-operation-constrain-a8030321.html

AbsentmindedWoman · 14/02/2019 12:24

Would I bet on what? Sorry, I don't understand.

I think she's very damaged. And possibly very dangerous if there was an opportunity for her to do something destructive. I don't think she can easily be rehabbed into British society. When I mentioned her outlook on her choices being a defence mechanism, I think that's probably unconscious on her part.

I just think she is also a victim, whether she realises that or not. It's shit that a 15 year old has essentially written off the rest of her life.

There are some places in the USA where there has been success with a de-radicalization therapy programme. Can't remember the names. I don't think we have facilities like that here, yet.

Oblomov19 · 14/02/2019 12:27

Yuk. Why exactly does she want to come back? Hmm

53rdWay · 14/02/2019 12:39

From what she says she wants to come back because it’s pretty shit having a baby in a war zone, and her last two children died recently because of it.

I don’t get the impression she would want to come back if IS was still holding territory and she had access to medicine and care within their system though.

PortiaCastis · 14/02/2019 12:45

Where's the child's father in all this shouldn't he be taking responsibility for his own child

lizzie1970a · 14/02/2019 12:48

How ironic she's a displaced person in a camp for refugees who because of her beliefs and her husband's have been displaced and lost their lives through no fault of their own. She must be under threat for her life there - who would want the "enemy" within their midst.

Worrying she says she doesn't have "high" hopes of IS surviving, but she has hopes. What a stupid girl.

Thesnobbymiddleclassone · 14/02/2019 12:50

There needs to be some control and security over her.

Also, is she pregnant, or is it a reason to come back and making it up.

yolofish · 14/02/2019 12:53

Quite honestly, and I know this will sound really callous, but I don't even care about her as yet unborn baby. She chose to do what she did; even if not directly commiting any crimes she helped sustain those who did. There are so many other babies and children, whether they are allegedly Anglo/Dutch or not who no one seems to be that bothered about really. And I really do agree with the concept that no one will be sent in to rescue her and thus risk their own lives for a girl who had every opportunity and chose a very bad path.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/02/2019 12:56

Wasn't there once some suggestion of removing the right of such folk to return to the UK? I'm sure I read about that, though no doubt it was shelved after providing a nice headline Hmm

Justanotherlurker · 14/02/2019 12:59

Wasn't there once some suggestion of removing the right of such folk to return to the UK?

No, it was about removing citizenship with duel nationals, they are still doing that AFAIK but there is still opposition to it.

Jsmith99 · 14/02/2019 13:04

*Why exactly does she want to come back”

I think we all know the answer to that. A council flat and lots of lovely benefits paid for out of our taxes.

wowfudge · 14/02/2019 13:05

She won't qualify for benefits as she won't meet the habitual residency requirement. As previously stated.

Monestasi · 14/02/2019 13:06

Good grief no. She should be left where she is.

This isn't a regular 15 year old that fell in with a bad crowd at school.

This is someone extremely dangerous and without empathy. Someone who saw charity workers and journalists beheaded then thought it an attractive idea to go off and join, and marry, those committing these atrocities.

I couldn't care less what happens to her, and feel very strongly that she should not be helped in the slightest. Sadly, her latest baby will be another casualty of her own choices and wicked ideology.

staydazzling · 14/02/2019 13:09

didn't she get groomed into it at 15?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/02/2019 13:11

Ah - thanks, lurker. I've obviously got mixed up, though googling does bring up this:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/01/anti-terror-policy-legal-political-opposition-jihadis-uk

My point overall, though is that surely there must be some way of avoiding this if the will's there? It's reported that over 400 British ISIS members have already returned to the UK, and anyone who thinks they're all being closely monitored is, quite frankly, kidding themselves

Powergower · 14/02/2019 13:14

The racism in this thread is absolutely shocking!! Hideous posts. What's happened to people. She's British, she joined a cult, her child is innocent. The authorities should manage her return. Would you spout the same bullshit is she was white? God.

placemats · 14/02/2019 13:14

Agree Powergower

Original poster
themoomoo · 14/02/2019 13:17

I'm failing to see any racism.
Yes I would say the same if she was white. What an odd question.
She willingly ran off to join a terrorist organisation

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AnnaComnena · 14/02/2019 13:19

Where's the child's father in all this shouldn't he be taking responsibility for his own child

According to the bbc, he surrendered to a group of Syrian fighters when they were fleeing from IS. I suppose it's quite likely he'll never be heard of again.

She only wants to come back now because IS are losing and she has nowhere else to go. Not because she's realised how wrong she was. If IS weren't losing, she'd still be there.

MissionItsPossible · 14/02/2019 13:19

Would you spout the same bullshit is she was white? God.

There was a case in Germany I think (could be wrong though) where a white girl ran off to join ISIS, got scared and then begged her countries authorities to come home and they let her and I thought they were letting someone very dangerous return and it was a risky and foolish thing to do. So yes, personally, I would say the same things as I have in this thread if she were white.

Powergower · 14/02/2019 13:20

She should absolutely be tried for her crimes. I'm not disputing that.

As for the comparison with asia bibi by a pp. Ffs asia is not a British citizen.

Kpo58 · 14/02/2019 13:20

Why exactly does she want to come back

Probably because she doesn't want her child to die like her previous ones

To see her family

So that her child doesn't grow up thinking that heads in the bin is normal

Because it is safer her than being a lone woman in a refugee camp (less likely to be attacked/raped etc)

Many reasons. I doubt a flat and benefits is one of them. If her parents are able and willing to house her then she wouldn't be entitled to housing.

We should allow her back to be punished/rehabilitated as appropriate.

We as a country are at fault for allowing 15 year olds to be brainwashed and to leave the country on their own so easily.

CameliaCamelia · 14/02/2019 13:21

Those saying just foster the kid out/put it up for adoption

There aren't that many foster families and adoption isn't a quick solution either

The kid will sit in the system costing thousands
The mother will be back in our prison,then benefits system, costing us thousands.

It's all at a cost to US

Greensleeves · 14/02/2019 13:21

The authorities have admitted that they are not even tracking/monitoring returning ISIS fighters in the UK. They have no idea how many or where they are. They claim not to have the resources.

Oddly, they managed to cobble together the resources to arrest, strip-search, harass and publicly name reurning British ex-squaddies who fought as volunteers AGAINST Daesh, including prosecuting one of them under the Terrorism Act (charges dropped after a year of public money being wasted on hearings at the Old Bailey and teams of lawyers trying to find things to drag up).