Men on a post natal ward

[RogueV]

The guy in the next bay is pissing me right off.
He just asked the midwife for a bed. Dick.

Why are they allowed to stay anyway? Shouldn’t they be going home?

Sorry just ranting.

It’s not just about some otherwise wonderful man accidentally catching a glimpse of your backside, though, is it? Look back through this thread, at the men described who’ve gawped at women breastfeeding, made excuses to peek through curtains, demanded midwives bring them food, slept in patient beds, hogged the patient toilets, kept women awake, angrily told women off for existing too loudly or messily next to them, had to be thrown out by security, and on and on.

I know that’s not your Nigel. It’s not my Nigel either. But the woman in the next bed has no way of knowing that, does she? Because there’s no way of saying “nice helpful men only” if you allow 24/7 partners - the best you can do is kick out the bad ones after they’ve done something bad.

Gently scented I was in hospital four days prior and ten days after due to massive complications. I had to try and sleep!

I didn't miss your point baby I was pointing out how ridiculous it is.

So you are also campaigning to prevent parents staying in children's wards presumably?

Children's wards are a different matter as parents need to be there for issues of consent and supervision of a minor. To add, parents are not allowed to stay overnight on all children's wards, it depends exactly which ward they are on and why.

Before you reply "so do babies", they have their mother with them.

No point repeating it all, 53, they just keep coming back with 'but I can't fathom why any of that would bother you' .

Back online.

Like I said if this affects you or someone close, do provide feedback.

@blanche @53rd that’s a shame you feel that way as it was refreshing to have a debate for a change. the rest of us who are listening to points carry on rather than criticising people for having opinions you don’t agree with. Some people genuinely can’t understand why you’d feel that way, just as you can’t understand their thinking.

@53rd that is a very good argument (minus the noise as the women were the worst on my ward) but I guess it depends where you’re feelings lie. I’d like to think it’s very rare or they are removed very quickly. Isn’t this the point of filling in the questionnaire forms before discharge? Surely if many came back and said that women found having men on the ward unacceptable or detrimental to their recovery it would have been flagged by now? Ultimately it comes back to funding, if women had confidence their bells would be answered quickly I doubt they’d feel they needed their partners support as much

I was waiting for someone to bring up children’s wards.

EwItsAHooman on the children's ward I was on with DD children without parents staying overnight stayed on an open ward. Those with parents staying stopped in side wards (one parent only. ) All three hospitals the children were in did this.

Sounds like a whole lot of discrimination against men in my opinion.

You only have to have a tiny bit of common sense to understand why so many of us don't want to be alone in a room of random women next to us immediately after giving birth. Not all women are respectful, kind and considerate.

The other women? They HAVE to be there.

The babies who cry all night and keep everyone awake? They HAVE to be there.

HCPs both male and female? They HAVE to be there.

Overnight visitors? They DO NOT have to be there.

People who think there's no place for men overnight on wards expect everyone to understand their issues with it. They should be listened to.

But there are women who would feel more comfortable to have their partners there, me included, and would feel less vunerable and anxious with them there for many reasons. They should be listened to as well.

No one is more important here than anyone else.

@perfectly well said

Er, there is the real-life situation. A policy decision has been made.

In regards to curtains I wasn't allowed curtains to be closed due to my complications and bleeding. They had to be open so the staff had sight of me.

EwItsAHooman on the children's ward I was on with DD children without parents staying overnight stayed on an open ward. Those with parents staying stopped in side wards (one parent only. ) All three hospitals the children were in did this.

Same in all the ones I've stayed in except for one where it was shared bays but it was a short stay ward and the staff made arrangements for women and children to be in seperate bays to men and children, there were a few private rooms available too for when needed.

@ShowOfHands He was demanding SEX whilst his girlfriend was on post natal Ward? 😵

What do you mean by cowed? X

Sounds like a whole lot of discrimination against men in my opinion.

It's really not.

No one is more important here than anyone else.

HENCE THE REASON PARTNERS ARE ALLOWED ON THE WARD 50% OF THE TIME. THAT IS THE COMPROMISE.

This has been pointed out numerous times on the thread, Perfectly, why do you keep ignoring it?

Discrimination against men. You do realise we’re talking post-labour wards?

Yeah it's discrimination against the poor, oppressed men. The statistics in regards to female on male crime are harrowing aren't they, their rights are beings eroded as we speak aren't they, women are always inserting themselves in male spaces concerning male issues and male healthcare, aren't they? Poor, poor menzzzz

Oh those poor discriminated men.

Why are you seeing all men as potential criminals?

Don’t be ridiculous.

Seline why are you so deliberately obtuse?