Men on a post natal ward

[RogueV]

The guy in the next bay is pissing me right off.
He just asked the midwife for a bed. Dick.

Why are they allowed to stay anyway? Shouldn’t they be going home?

Sorry just ranting.

‘Man bashing’ because women should come first post natal 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yes, so 'man bashing' to not want to share sleeping space with non-patients when you've just given birth . De poor menz.

Another man bashing thread.

It's not man-bashing to think that certain spaces should be for patients only during the night, everyone opposed to visitors staying overnight has said this apples to male AND female visitors.

Gentlyscented. There's nothing man bashing or trolling about this thread.
Just women being honest in their reasons.
Reasons that you, like your friend Seline can't seem to grasp.

*applies

Another man bashing thread. This thread stinks trolls*

Or, is it just women not centering men, and the feelings of men, during their post natal care?

Perfectly1mperfect I know my husband is lovely. I also know that to the woman trying to breastfeed her firstborn in the next bed a few hours after a difficult birth, or trying to get an hour's sleep, he's a 6 ft 5 bearded stranger who snores... Who she might not feel able to sleep or breastfeed 30cm away from - and we all know some people's partners are not lovely and that we don't get to choose or vet them.

That's why the compromise is 12-14 hours with men who are strangers to everyone else there, but single sex, no visitors over night when lights are down and less staff about.

Post-natal wards for women and recently birth babies to recover and get any medical treatment needed - where you'd assume women health and dignity would be major concerns - and yet so many posters on about men's rights.

Costner77.
I would have laughed my bedsocks off if I had seen you or anyone else do that.
I would probably have burst my stitches too.😂

I can understand teary eyed Hilda wanting her husband there. But what about the other 5 there. You've single Sheila, Traumatised Tammy, Can't stand my husband Camille, Please give me sleep Pamela and I'm terrified of men Terry.

But teary eyed Hilda gets to parade in with her man and trump all other five. It's nonsense.

I can totally understand women not wanting partners there all the time although I don't agree.

However there are some posters who just seem completely intolerant of anyone. If you do have a baby in an NHS hospital, which has to provide care to huge amounts of people, you are not going to get total privacy. It would be great if everyone could have private rooms and bathrooms but there just isn't the money.

Seline whilst your darling husband or mother are fussing round you, if you are on a main ward next to me, i In the next bed have no guarantees they have washed their hands and aren’t just there disturbing me, intruding on my privacy and spreading germs.

What if they have a hacking cough that’s then passed to my newborn? Or Carry an infection? mrsa in your section wound anyone? Post natal norovirus?

Yuck other people and their germy families should be kept away from vulnerable post natal women and their newborns.
I have no guarantees they have washed their hands/followed hygiene practices.
Should be minimal visitors limited to a couple of hours of the day.

With DS it was so damn noisy, hot and overcrowded in the ward with all the men hogging the toilet that I gave him a bottle just to get out of there. 'There, I'm formula feeding.' Got out and went back to breastfeeding because I have the privacy to get it going (I had breastfed my older children so new I could get away with giving me a bottle or two and still being able to get him on the breast).

Seline thinks her needs trump others. Her husband must be a prototype yet to be encountered.

that's why the compromise is 12-14 hours with men who are strangers to everyone else there, but single sex, no visitors over night when lights are down and less staff about.

But it's when there are less staff about that partners are needed more by some women. I found the staff unhelpful both day and night but I had more chance of assistance from one of them in the day as there seemed more of them.

Christ Itsyersel, can you not see her point? Some men are dicks, she does not want to share a ward with them. She isn’t insulting your lovely Nigel.

Genuine question here:
If you weren't trying to establish breastfeeding, would you have liked the following?

Women's only ward, men were only allowed in during visiting hours.
Where the midwives took babies to nursery for the whole night so you could sleep?
Curtains open, no men around, so you could chat to the other women?

Or the current set-up?

Unicorn my family aren't so stupid as to not wash their hands or come in while unwell.

It seems here that everyone is being penalised because some people behave inappropriately.

I don't agree with what Seline says about partners being allowed on postnatal wards overnight but that's the nature of debate and we can agree to disagree.

However I really don't agree with the nastiness being posted about her.

What if they have a hacking cough that’s then passed to my newborn? Or Carry an infection? mrsa in your section wound anyone? Post natal norovirus?
Exactly.
I have a cousin who nearly died of sepsis after giving birth after contracting an infection in hospital. Woman in the next bed had family traipsing in all day completely unchecked. She couldn't bf as was too ill and was completely traumatised and says she won't be having any more children. There's a reason care is provided by trained professionals, anything else is completely unsafe.

@EwItsAHooman agree. It's all very bully'ish considering their suppose to be adults.