Breaking news: May facing leadership challenge today.

[KitKat1985]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46535739

It's all such a mess. I'm not a fan of Teresa May particularly, but I do think anyone would have struggled to make a success of Brexit after the referendum, so not entirely sure what replacing May will achieve. And also who on earth would replace her if the challenge is successful?

I think, in general, people don’t riot at the prospect of something - especially if they voted for it.

I have no idea how my neighbours voted. This is a massive Leave area. We voted Remain. They are nice people and everything but I didn't want to get into it with them.

No one voted for the withdrawal agreement currently on the table.

Macron said he would increase fuel taxes in his election manifesto.

If they didn't realise there would need to be something that addresses GFA, they were ..... Oh, forget it.

I absolutely adored asking everybody how they voted and adored even more listening to their often hilarious responses. One of the best set of insights into human ignorance and resulting self sabotagevai have ever had the opportunity to hear.

If I had asked they may have told me to not to be so nosy. In fact I may have voted leave, or I could have voted remain, or I may not have even voted at all, nobodies business but my own.

I didn’t meet a single person who wasn’t thrilled to be asked and thrilled to explain why! It was hard to change topics once they were on a roll...

So User1499blahblahblah, I may have told you to EffOrf if you had asked me

I wonder if she's involved in this though. If she lumps through, she cannot he challenged again for 12 months. True brinkmanship, a bit like calling a GM just after the brexit vote when everyone hated them 🤷‍♀️

Limps through. No idea how one would lump through, but it autocorrected my post 3 times!

Then you weren’t one of the hundreds I asked, none of whom failed to grab the opportunity to finally let rip!

I know what a lot of people voted - via fb- I’ll happily smash their windows when the time comes
(Not really)

Theresa May is sandwiched between a rock and a hard place. If you look historically in how the EU negotiates, the deal she has was always the most likely (if removing the free movement of people was your primary goal). This interactive diagram explains this: BrexitOptions.co.uk/diagram.html

I always have to stop myself feeling sorry for May and remind myself that she is a piece of work responsible for some of the most inhumane government policies over the past few years. I fear whoever replaces her, however. She is a grown up at least.

What a mess.

She is a grown up at least

No. She’s a schoolgirl set an impossible task and never giving up, having always been told to try her best at the very narrow goal set by others.

She’s a schoolgirl set an impossible task and never giving up, having always been told to try her best at the very narrow goal set by others.

Totally agree. She's a person of middling ability, zero imagination and a weirdly misplaced sense of 'duty'.

She's a person of middling ability, zero imagination and a weirdly misplaced sense of 'duty'

I agree with this. I am comparing her to the alternatives (Boris anyone?)

Boris has a lot of imagination but no patience with reality. He fancies himself as Julius Caesar or Napoleon.

I live in a massively Remain area. Can't believe what is happening to this country, and I blame every single idiot who voted Leave.

Insanely jealous of my friend who said today that despite never wanting to live anywhere but UK again, she is digging out her dual nationality paperwork this evening and starting preparations to move to a proper country with a proper government.

I'm also expecting every Leave voter to do the decent thing and decline food and medicine if we have shortages.

The picture of Theresa May standing in front of a row of suits is the one that summed it all up for me.

For the north-westerners saying that there won't be riots, can I point out with all due respect that the north west is in its own little cultural enclave nowadays, all very quiet and nicely conformist. If there are riots - and there will be at some point over Brexit, whether it's in the next few days or the next few months or years - they will kick off in places like London possibly (I don't know London) and Nottingham. Nottinghamshire has been a powder keg waiting to blow for years now. There are far too many people with no buy in to an economy built solely on the idea of international trade.

I am just so sickened by our entire political class. I can barely type fluently for how sickened I am by their collective incompetence and self-serving bullshit! All this blew up over Tory in-fighting. Having decided on such a turbulent and significant course of action and with the last GE result the sensible and pragmatic thing to do would have been to not trigger A50 until there was a plan, and start a cross-party discussions on the best way forward. Instead we've got May sitting in the middle trying her best, I believe, to find compromise and a way forward on this, and everyone else is just crying like spoilt babies for not having been able to quite get their own way.

What do they think they can do better? Really? They must have some concept of reality down there, surely, behind all the self-serving power games?

@MiddlingMum I've been meaning to post that about leave voters doing the decent thing for ages but not quite brave enough!

You don’t know how your neighbours voted?? How extraordinary. I asked absolutely everybody how they voted for months after the referendum
gosh, how rude of you.

They didn’t think it was rude! They loved it!