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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

OP posts:
wizzywig · 25/11/2018 11:43

Sweet jesus thats an amazing rocket!!! Happy birthday painting boy!

BorisAndDoris · 25/11/2018 11:44

Glad the party went well.

Please begin to distance yourself from this bad friendship. Even if John did pose as his wife to send the email, you know they are both looking down on poor little single mum Querty who needs pity due to her being woefully ill equipped to raise a young boy properly without the assistance of a male role model.
They have clearly discussed you in their home and judging by both of their actions and especially their fucked up family dynamics if John is a controlling arse who poses as his wife, they have NO IDEA WHAT A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING FAMILY IS. They are in no way shining examples of parenting to which you as a disadvantaged single mother should be looking up to.

They are not nice people and I pity their kids, not yours.

And by the way, my DS (6) would certainly prefer a craft party even though he likes football. He adores his very girly 8yo DSis and would (and regularly does) enjoy doing crafts with her. The more glitter the better.

KurriKurri · 25/11/2018 11:49

I'm glad your DS had a brilliant party - I love your rocket in the garden, and your astronaut game - what a huge effort you have put into making this a fantastic party for your DS.
Maybe in a few days you canhave a chat with Jane, sounds like whatever hppened she wants to continue the friendship, JOhn sounds totally weird.

WhiteDust · 25/11/2018 11:50

You're a great Mum OP!
So glad nobody suffered from FWS! Haha!

Aridane · 25/11/2018 11:52

Glad the party went well and friend’s children came along (ie it has not been taken out on the children)

BlancheM · 25/11/2018 11:54

Ace update. Happy memories for your son

bloodyhellimtired · 25/11/2018 11:54

It's possible Jane is in a bad relationship, and if so I would want to offer support. Perhaps her earlier pushing towards the football party was him behind the scenes. You won't know though until you speak to her, but if she's in a bad situation I'd want to give her the benefit of the doubt. There are too many women with men like John and no one to turn to.

Notgoodatchoosingnames · 25/11/2018 12:09

Looks awesome. Glad it went well x

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 25/11/2018 12:11

Really happy that the kids came but not the parents.

Slightly worried, with others, that "Jane" might be in a dodgy marriage but you know what? That is Not Your Problem.

You might choose to ask her about it next time you see her, but then again you might decide that life is too short to be patronised by these people and keep some distance from them.

Either way, you had a great party for you boy and I'm sure he and everyone else there loved it! Hope it leaves a sour taste in "John's" mouth that all those kids had a fab time with nary a football in sight! Grin

Milliy · 25/11/2018 12:32

Or maybe it was John sending nice email to cover for Janes nasty one?

Milliy · 25/11/2018 12:33

Yay to a brilliant birthday party and all your own work OP. Hope that's given your confidence and self esteem a real boost Wine

Graphista · 25/11/2018 12:37

Excellent outcome.

diddl · 25/11/2018 12:43

"Neither Jane or John came in the end "

I'm quite surprised by that tbh.

Probably for the best though!

Glad it all went well.

luckylavender · 25/11/2018 13:02

Great outcome OP. What a lovely mum you are.

MortyVicar · 25/11/2018 13:07

I'm glad the parents didn't come - it saved you being on edge all the time wondering if/when the football was going to be produced.

Loving all your party ideas, you sound fab.

WellThisIsShit · 25/11/2018 13:53

Yay! So glad your little boy had a good time at his party :)

QwertyLou · 25/11/2018 14:07

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kalinkafoxtrot45 · 25/11/2018 14:12

It sounds like John is a nasty piece of work then, and to be kept well away from your son.

woolduvet · 25/11/2018 14:27

I missed your updates that have been deleted. Is there anything that can be repeated?

QwertyLou · 25/11/2018 14:34

100 per cent agree that I need to keep John away from my son!

To respond to a PP, yes his Grandad, uncles, older boy cousins and —normal— other husbands-of-friends were there. We might even have achieved the Golden vagina:penis Ratio Required at Kids Parties Did You Not Know This Existed 😀

But I agree, it definitely sounds like John & Jane have been pitying and looking down on me, my son and the whole extended family. Which is not a nice feeling.

OP posts:
QwertyLou · 25/11/2018 14:48

Those updates just had some party pics, including the —bloody— lovely cardboard rocket for which I had to race out and buy duct tape as it kept toppling over - even before 4 year olds were hurtling into it!

I then realised how outing that was so asked for pics to be deleted! Smile

OP posts:
Yulebealrite · 25/11/2018 14:52

Time to have a quiet word with her when John isn't around. She might need a good friend.

woolduvet · 25/11/2018 15:04

😂

QwertyLou · 25/11/2018 15:07

@bloodyhellimtired thank you I am feeling a bit concerned about that now.

@BobTheDuvet when you say it rings true - you mean the taking the phone?

A friend once told me to be careful what I text to Jane as her husband will often check her phone.. I’m sorry to say I kind of dismissed the idea because they seem quite loved up to me - admittedly on Facebook Blush

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bertielab · 25/11/2018 15:13

I'm glad you had a nice party.

Are I the only one thinking their marriage might be abusive and controlling?

If she is deleting emails, he's taking her phone and won't let her have it -it sounds like she is being abused and forced to continue spouting the 'football in for boy's' nonsense. I worry about John and what his real motive are -if they are making up for a lack of F figure or something deeper.