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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

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BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 25/11/2018 08:39

I picked up on the "would of" instead of "would have" in the disputed text. Depends if that is the OP usual phrase, or it is actually verbatim what was in text.
I agree that it is a phrase people either write or they don't, regardless of how they say it

zzzzz · 25/11/2018 08:49

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CanSurvive · 25/11/2018 09:04

Jane has seen this thread and realised the world thinks she’s a dick and back peddling. If her husband did send the text then he’s a controlling dick who needs getting rid of.
Remember all the gender stereotype bullshjt was coming from your friend Jane to start with, so its her as well.

WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 25/11/2018 09:09

Sounds like you'll have your own party activity going on later ... pin the batshit crazy label on your friend.

pictish · 25/11/2018 09:31

I agree that even if it was John who sent the narky text, your daft pal Jane was still aghast at your party plans in person and made a big song and dance about bloody football all by herself. She has gone home and discussed her thicko views with John about what a rubbish party you have planned and how your son is missing out.

Your friend is still out of order.

BlancheM · 25/11/2018 09:31

If their kid comes to the party, meet him at the doorstep and tell those sinister individuals what time to pick him up later.
I think she's taking you for a complete fool, no wonder she doesn't want John to realise she's texted you-impersonating him-impersonating-herself Confused
If on the oddest of odd chances she's telling the truth, sadly you're not in a position to safely support her because John has chosen to attach himself to you and your son in a very strange, troubling way.

VashtaNerada · 25/11/2018 09:44

The latest update makes me wonder if John has been pressuring her all along to make these bizarre demands of you. Maybe it’s not really coming from her but he’s been going on and on about it and giving her a hard time?

bringbackthestripes · 25/11/2018 09:48

I hope DS has an amazing party- do come back and update us and let us know if friend just dropped off or if you have been able to chat and resolve the weirdness.

WhiteDust · 25/11/2018 09:53

Was John standing over Jane when she insisted on planning your son's party for you and made you feel that your plans were not good enough?

To save me looking back, is John Jane's husband (live in) or Jane's partner (live out)?

Either way, John is a creep.
Jane is either:
a) A down trodden, manipulated woman who has her partner/husband controlling every sentence she writes
Or
b) A manipulative woman who ishares the same opinions as John but is now concocting an elaborate tale because she has realised that they have gone too far
Or
c) She has found out about this thread and is now trying to make excuses and play a victim role

I'm going with b.

Bloomcounty · 25/11/2018 10:03

Gosh, this has twists and turns.

Ignore your "friends" OP. This is your wee boy's birthday party, he's going to have the party that he wants, and your friends are STILL trying to dominate your thoughts with THEIR issues. What a pair of wankers.

Ignore them. Focus on your little guy's painting party, have a good time watching them all have a lovely creative time (and take LOTS of photos please, and ensure you put them on social media so your "friends" see how much fun all the kids had, NOT playing football).

They're just a pair of controlling, domineering pricks. Don't waste a single moment more thinking about them, when the most important person today is your boy.

Whocansay · 25/11/2018 10:05

Wow. If what she said is true, then John is creepy as fuck. Stay the hell away from these people after the party.

psicat · 25/11/2018 10:40

Wow just wow. Hope your little boy has a great day today OP, zero wrong with painting party, ridiculous gender stereo typing and all the other things that have been said before but just to lend support Flowers
Also to say you have been very classy in your polite but firm response and you were right to not respond - I don't know if I could have been so good!

The latest development is the strangest yet. That's either rather extreme controlling behaviour from John or very childish behaviour from her trying to blame it on him. Both I would find quite worrying!

Have a lovely crazy party, you sound like a great mum - he will certainly have much better memories of childhood than John apparently has!

BumsexAtTheBingo · 25/11/2018 10:44

John is at best a controlling bully or at worst trying to get access to kids for sinister reasons. Steer well clear of him but let your friend know you are there for her if she needs you.

Holidayshopping · 25/11/2018 10:45

He sounds like a total knob but really, she started this all by being really rude.

My son (nearly 18 now) has always hated football and would have hated a football party. He has a dad at home and lots of good male role models (uncles, friends of ours, 3 Grandad’s etc) to ‘help’ him on his way to being a wel-founded adult, none of these role models actually much like football!

It is more than possible to be a happy social functioning member of society without liking football.

J, on the other hand, has really missed the point.

pictish · 25/11/2018 10:56

And remember, she passed your number to football party man despite you telling her you weren’t bothered about having football at your lad’s party. She has been insistent about the poxy football throughout.
Actually, it’s entirely possible she is the driving force behind this bizarre need to force football onto boys, rather than John. Maybe she’s been spraffing her bollocks at home, whereby he has been caught up and picked up the ball and run with it (pun intended). Hence the text.

Either of them could have sent that inappropriate, sanctimonious text - but she definitely crossed the line way before it arrived.

Milliy · 25/11/2018 11:09

OP that makes much more sense now. Given you said you and Jane get in well and you were her birthing partner etc , the message had an unusual tone. The fact that Jane appears concerned if John finds this latest email is worrying , for her. But see how she is with you at the party. Switch it around, could John have seen narky text from her and sent apologetic nice one to you to ease things over and doesn't want Jane to see it??? They seriously have issues either way. Shock

QwertyLou · 25/11/2018 11:12

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WhiteDust · 25/11/2018 11:14

Wow! Brilliant OP!

WhiteDust · 25/11/2018 11:14

Did you get to speak to her?

RandomMess · 25/11/2018 11:16

Woohoo glad DS had a fab party 🥳 🎉

QwertyLou · 25/11/2018 11:19

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powershowerforanhour · 25/11/2018 11:36

Glad the party went well!

MamehaSan · 25/11/2018 11:36

What about the possibility that friend sent the narky message, told John about it and he pointed out that she was being a twat, hence the back-pedalling?

Glad the party went ok, OP 🚀

QwertyLou · 25/11/2018 11:40

Neither Jane or John came in the end but “Lucy and Sam” came with a relative (who was lovely) and Ben was so happy to see them and the others. No one appeared to suffer from Football Withdrawal Syndrome Grin

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Gileswithachainsaw · 25/11/2018 11:43

So glad it worked out so well Smile