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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

OP posts:
bringbackthestripes · 24/11/2018 13:12

Omg! Her response if even more shocking than her demanding there be football at YOUR DS party.

Thanks. You have now made it sound as though I am a shit mother, and J is projecting all his own childhood misery onto me and Ben. I am not his mother, and he is not Ben. I no longer want any of you to come over as I feel that you have tarnished the whole event with your patronising efforts to make me feel as though I can't throw a party for my boy that he will enjoy. Please stay away"

^ this is a brilliant response.

LilQueenie · 24/11/2018 13:15

what does she think happens at school during arts and crafts? I would ditch her and her skewed views tbh.

AllTakenSoRubbishUsername · 24/11/2018 13:15

That would make me so annoyed. It's your son's party, and he's said what he would like. So say very firmly 'no thank you' to the kind offer, and explain that your son has organised the party that he would like. The man can then toddle off to the park and play football by himself!

AllTakenSoRubbishUsername · 24/11/2018 13:17

Honestly, don't let your feelings of 'politeness' come before what your son would like. If they all start charging around playing football it WILL ruin his painting party.

Gatehouse77 · 24/11/2018 13:18

Sometimes it helps to just step back from the drama and focus on what you need to do for your boy's birthday.
There's a serious amount of projecting by both the other parents and, remember, you don't have to live up to their values, etc. you have to be comfortable living with your own.

As others have said, you've shown how much you know your own son and they have shown they do not. Believe in yourself and don't allow them to intrude.

Witchofzog · 24/11/2018 13:18

Please so not shed any more tears op over her. You have done nothing wrong and I hope to god she stumbles across this thread so she can see what an arsehole she is

81Byerley · 24/11/2018 13:19

What about saying painting first, then football, and anyone who wants to carry on painting, can?

DistanceCall · 24/11/2018 13:21

What about saying painting first, then football, and anyone who wants to carry on painting, can?

NO. Because the child whose party it is is not interested in football. Why the fuck should the OP have to placate these people? Whose party is it?

bloodyhellimtired · 24/11/2018 13:21

Fucking hell she's so patronising. As though being a single parent means your son never gets anything he desires because you're incapable of providing it or knowing what that might be! Of course John the menz knows better. Tell her to fuck off.

ContessaHallelujahSparklehorse · 24/11/2018 13:26

Bloody hell Confused breezy message is definitely the way to go. You have done nothing wrong, at all!

Aridane · 24/11/2018 13:27

OP - you have done nothing wrong!

That was a lovely tactful email you sent.

Try to put out of your mind - easier said than done, I know - and focus on your son and his enjoyment of tomorrow’s party

ciderhouserules · 24/11/2018 13:29

'It's very kind of John to help with what he thinks Ben would like, based on his own childhood. However, Ben wants a painting party.
He does not want a football party. If he did, I would organise one according to his wishes. Maybe John could come over another time to play football with Ben - if Ben wants to.'

End of.

MrsScrubbingbrush · 24/11/2018 13:29

Perhaps now is the time to do what you suggest in your thread title and tell your friend and her 'helpful' husband to sod off!

LEDadjacent · 24/11/2018 13:31

@Thebluedog Your response is perfect: ‘Of course J is welcome and I appreciated his offer. And you are right, it is BEN’s party, NOT mine, or Johns or yours, and as such I will be doing what BEN wants, and that is painting and not football. See you tomorrow ‘

SillyPsychicAcid · 24/11/2018 13:32

Well, she’s a bit domineering huh?

Stand firm OP.

Ooogetyooo · 24/11/2018 13:32

I had a 'friend' once who I ended up falling out with over something the kids did, so I understand that feeling you now have of hating confrontation, having to put a smile on in front of others and trying not to feel backstabbed by somebody you thought was a good friend. It happens. Enjoy your boys birthday , kill her with kindness next time you see her and then carry on . Good luck .

Grumblepants · 24/11/2018 13:36

I like 'UnderMajorDomoMinor' response. I think that pretty much covers off how they over stepped the mark and hopefully make them think about what they have done.

Bumply · 24/11/2018 13:38

Put your friend to the back of your mind and know that you are doing the right thing for your boy.
If he'd wanted a pamper party because that was what he was into they still wouldn't have had the right to walk over your planned itinerary.
My son went to a High School Musical themed party when he about 10 and I was surprised (but would never have dreamt of saying anything) at the choice , but he had a great time.

TheCag · 24/11/2018 13:39

Fwiw my 6yo would absolutely hate a football activity at his party. How bizarre of her trying to impose it on him! Surely once a year it’s his turn to choose exactly the type of party he wants. I don’t understand her mindset at all.

HeebieJeebies456 · 24/11/2018 13:39

I drafted that message so carefully. I had to make my meaning clear because I’d already said “no” four times to no avail!
I bet this isn't the first time in your 'friendship' that she's behaved like a bossy, pushy, entitled bitch.
I think you're just used to either pussyfooting around her - like on this occasion - or giving in.

This is NOT the behaviour of friends - or a best friend.
Time to re-evaluate this 'friendship i think.....she obviously doesn't give two shits about upsetting you or stepping on your toes.
Instead she is determined to put you down in order to make herself and John feel superior!

I wouldn't have her over tomorrow unless she can apologise beforehand, no doubt she will have a face like slapped arse and be bitching about your party the whole time.

Going forward you need to be as assertive and in-your-face- as she is -
“You made it clear Js not welcome so he’ll not come"
He's welcome to attend as a guest - not as a party organiser.

He would of loved a mates Father to step in they never did
I will not allow John to project his childhood issues onto me or my son. Perhaps he should seek professional help if it bothers him to the extent of becoming pushy.

J feels for your lad and wanted to help which you seem to have taken a personal offence
I understand he wanted to help, however, I do not need it. I am more than capable of arranging my own child's party and taking care of his needs and desires.
I AM offended that neither of you are respecting my opinion as the mother of ds and as your friend.

*If “Ben” wants him there he will (it’s HIS day after all NOT yours) otherwise me and kids will see you tomorrow.”
J is an invited guest and will be welcomed as such.
As ds's mother and party host, I have the final say in what happens in my home.
I will not tolerate any bitchiness during my sons party or any scuppering of our plans, so if neither of you are capable of being adults about this then I would rather you stayed away until you are.

Honestly OP, you need to toughen up and stop being meek when dealing with her. It's no wonder she thinks she can get away with behaving like this.

DartmoorDoughnut · 24/11/2018 13:43

She’s not your boss btw, you don’t need her approval to do what you want to do

ciderhouserules · 24/11/2018 13:43

J feels for your lad and wanted to help - I get the feeling you and your household are discussed a lot in their house, OP. Hmm

Nanny0gg · 24/11/2018 13:44

I am gobsmacked at the response!

At no point did you ask for any help or for a father 'substitute' for your son.

AFWIW, I have 4 DGS, aged from 5 - 12. None of them like football and a football party is their idea of hell.

Graphista · 24/11/2018 13:46

Tell her not to fucking bother!

Just because her dh is projecting his childhood shit is no reason to be an arse!

She's kicking off cos she's been called out on her shit and feels her parenting has been criticised - but thinks it perfectly acceptable to boldly criticise YOUR parenting and undermine what you and your SON want.

Honestly? I'd bin her off altogether if you don't get an apology before the party.

Do not JADE - justify, argue, defend or explain. You owe her nothing.

"I think it best in order to avoid an atmosphere at the party that you not come. Sorry it's come to this but I won't have bens birthday marred by this. Suggest J gets therapy for his childhood issues"

3ChangingForNow · 24/11/2018 13:49

The only way to be with these kind of people is direct as possible. I'd recommend laugh and say 'it's a bloody painting party. No football. End of. Can you kindly shut up about it now?'