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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

OP posts:
martinidry · 24/11/2018 12:10

This woman is no friend. Friends don't give out your telephone number without permission, friends don't patronise, friends don't force their parenting style upon your child, friends don't speak to you as though you're dirt on the bottom of the shoes.

I really get the feeling that she would be the type to turn up and put not you but your son on the spot and 'suggests' that he wants John and his football there.

The answer can only be,
Jane, had you not handed my phone number to someone without my permission this situation would not of got this far.

My son is celebrating but I am organising and paying for this party and I neither want nor require anyone else to make decisions about my child's party or about my parenting choices.

The children will be painting just prior to cake being handed out.
You, John, and little Jimmy are welcome as our guests but I would quite understand if Jamie would prefer to decline the invitation on the basis of there being no football involved

BlurTomato · 24/11/2018 12:11

Hope your DS has a lovely party Smile

What a patronising attitude towards a single mum.

WhiteDust · 24/11/2018 12:12

Now they seem to be in a right strop.

Let them strop. You've done nothing wrong.
How dare they dictate what activities are on offer at your son's party?
Suggest that John takes his balls to the park instead. Let her know that she and her son are welcome to join him.

eggncress · 24/11/2018 12:13

Block and bin. You don’t need this CF in your life.
Obviously if she brings their son (without footballs) put up with her for another day tomorrow.

Don’t feel the need to reply to her text. No apologies etc. You did nothing wrong. Just because you’ve been friends with her for so long doesn’t mean it has to continue and for her to continue to trample over you.

I hope your boy has a great day tomorrow.

BlancheM · 24/11/2018 12:22

I've never read so much projection in my life, and over a child's birthday? They should hang their heads in shame. The only ones to take it personally is them. They are treating you like a pity/charity case.
I would tell them to stay away from your home after this. It's a shame for their son but it's not your fault, you've behaved like a saint dealing with this!
You don't want any more of your memories of your DS' party tarnished by their weirdness.

KurriKurri · 24/11/2018 12:22

What a nasty reply - horrible friend.
if you want to reply (but probably best to ignore since she is being a drama queen)

'Thank you for realising that it is indeed Ben's day, not anyone else's. And everyone enjoys different things. Ben is really looking forward to the painting activity that he chose for his party.'

WhiteDust · 24/11/2018 12:22

So John didn't have a footie party when he was little?
What the hell has that got to do with your son??

Yes, it's your son's party. Not hers, her son's, John's or yours.

Send this message back.

"DS requested a painting party and this is what he's having. Thanks for your concern. I agree, it's his party, not mine, yours or John's.
If you feel that your son would like to attend, great. If not, see you (whenever).

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 24/11/2018 12:23

"I'm sorry to hear that John had miserable parties as a child. But DS and 4 yr old John are different people. I'm arranging the party that DS wants. John taking over and changing the party into something that he wanted as a child isn't going to change the childhood that he had. By forcing DS to have a type of party that he doesn't want John would be just doing to DS what was done to him as a child."

WhiteDust · 24/11/2018 12:23

Kuri's reply is better.

EggysMom · 24/11/2018 12:24

"We'll have to agree to disagree on this."

WhiteDust · 24/11/2018 12:24

*than mine

IStandWithPosie · 24/11/2018 12:26

John is trying to live vicariously through your son!

glamorousgrandmother · 24/11/2018 12:26

I don't think any further answer is required, you made your point clearly. I hope your son has a lovely party.

WhyAmISoCold · 24/11/2018 12:27

My response would be "BEN's party, BEN's choice, stop being so ridiculous and projecting your weird views on boys and painting onto my child's party."

Then afterwards I wouldn't bother wit her again. She's a dickhead.

WhiteDust · 24/11/2018 12:28

What will happen if you don't reply OP? Do you think they'll turn up?

purple8pig · 24/11/2018 12:29

Not read the full thread but my son is 6 and would love the painting activity so so so much more than the football! You're not stopping "boys being boys" you're not forbidding them playing football for the next year. It's a party, for a couple of hours of life.
I'm sure even if painting is considered "unmanly" (it isn't) they will still manage to somehow leave with their (4 year old) masculinity intact Hmm

Thebluedog · 24/11/2018 12:30

You’d think with John missing out on a party of his choosing when he was younger, he’d be more than sympathetic to Ben’s request to paint, and not try and force something on him he doesn’t want. Shows a complete lack of empathy on his behalf.

She sounds very condescending and insinuating that you are not doing what’s best by your ds (which of course you are), and that your ds has no male role models (which he does) and somehow that’s a bad thing. The more I think about her reply the more angrier I’m getting on your behalf.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 24/11/2018 12:38

It sounds as though she's seriously suggesting that your DS's party should be focussed on a therapeutic experience for John rather than on DS's enjoyment. I wonder if he knows that he's trying to hand on his own unhappiness to the next generation?

BumsexAtTheBingo · 24/11/2018 12:38

I’d reply - Absolutely! It’s Ben’s party and he has asked for painting. Not all boys are football obsessed! I’m sorry to hear about J’s experience growing up but he’s not Ben.
What an odd pair your friend and J are!

fuzzywuzzy · 24/11/2018 12:40

When I was a single parent, I had a few parents doing the faux sorry for you you husbandless unwanted woman and your poor children with no male roel model in their lives.

This woman sounds just like that. Both she and her husband sound like twats.

Your party sounds fab and most importantly you’re doing exactly what your DS wants to do for his birthday.

Bet his friends all really love it and the party is a huge success.

Don’t let this ‘friend’ spoil it for you and your ds. Ignore the text. Also recruit some actually friends to ensure John doesn’t try and de-rail your activity by turning up with a football and starting a football kick around with the kids.

They sound immensely ridiculous.

Shadow1234 · 24/11/2018 12:43

Wow! What a CF!!!!!!
I'm lost for words. Dont think I would even want these people in my house tbh! Hope your son has a lovely birthday.

Honeyroar · 24/11/2018 12:46

I wouldn't get into much more discussion, I'd almost prefer a couple like that not speaking to me more than having them interfering! They've been incredibly rude, they've criticised your party and even your parenting. I'd be inclined to chuck it back at them and say that your son is not John, he's not in need of any more male role models, his party is exactly what he wanted. Tell them not all boys are enamoured by football. Say you're quite upset (let them know it's not all about their feelings and what they think!), and that you'd better all drop the subject before it gets any more upsetting.

jay55 · 24/11/2018 12:48

I just don't get it. Many 3 and 4 year olds don't have the greatest coordination when it comes to ball games. How much fun would it have been anyway?
I'm with the majority, they're not friends, you are a pet project of theirs and you not bowing and scraping with gratitude has them totally out of joint. Uninvited the lot, she'll no doubt bitch about you the whole party to the other parents.

LinoleumBlownapart · 24/11/2018 12:48

Funny I've just read this, as on Thursday my 6 year old son went to one of his classmates party. Instead of a party bag they all took home a wooden aeroplane, two little pots of paint and a brush. 11 of the 13 boy mothers put a message on the class whatsapp group saying how their children adored the aeroplanes. Friday was toy day and more than half the class brought their painted aeroplanes in to school. So I think the rockets will be a hit! We live in Brazil too so football is a big deal. Ignore this silly woman. It will all blow over. You did nothing wrong.

Butterymuffin · 24/11/2018 12:48

'Not at all offended, just doing what Ben wants which is painting! Best if John gives it a miss this time then'. Send that and you're done.

He needs to seek out proper counselling / therapy to get over his childhood issues, not do it by hijacking some other kid's party.