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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

OP posts:
Milliy · 24/11/2018 11:42

John's issues growing up are nothing to do with your son. They have both overstepped the mark in this instance and are now trying to make you feel bad . Your not wrong, now or ever, to stand up for what you or your son want. People can be really odd when others don't let them have their way.

Thebluedog · 24/11/2018 11:43

Just wow!!

I’d be tempted to send back

‘Of course J is welcome and I appreciated his offer. And you are right, it is BEN’s party, NOT mine, or Johns or yours, and as such I will be doing what BEN wants, and that is painting and not football. See you tomorrow ‘

I also like Dartmoor’s message

bimbobaggins · 24/11/2018 11:45

Just message back and say yeah best if John gives it a miss. Then don’t engage any further.
The only weirdness here is them!
My ds df died last year and I would not want anyone trying to step in like this dictating to me what to do with my son.

Milliy · 24/11/2018 11:46

Making out your family unit is somehow inferior because your son doesn't have a father is also patronising and insulting. Does she see you as an equal friend or a charity case?

honeysucklejasmine · 24/11/2018 11:47

ShockShockShock

bimbobaggins · 24/11/2018 11:47

Exactly milliy oh poor woman can’t possibly raise her child right without the help from a man

SeekingClosure · 24/11/2018 11:50

I think it's time you stopped being so polite and told the pair of them to fuck off.

Milliy · 24/11/2018 11:50

That's what I thought too Bimbo

MrDonut · 24/11/2018 11:51

It's one of those messages that would irritate me the first time I read it, but the more I thought about it, the angrier I'd get.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 24/11/2018 11:54

I think you would be quite justified in going nuclear on this cheeky patronising bitch!

“The only weird person around here is the one who thinks it’s okay to hijack MY child’s party. Don’t contact me again regarding this again.”

And then bin her. Seriously, I would bin her permanently for this. Never mind that John has issues with his childhood, he doesn’t to get to use your son’s party as fucking therapy for his issues. Bloody weird the pair of them.

PegLegAntoine · 24/11/2018 11:56

Wow 😳 how embarrassing

QwertyLou · 24/11/2018 11:57

I’m just in tears because the party is tomorrow, I’ve still got loads to do and an excited boy bouncing around and now this ridiculous debacle! I’ll just have to put it out of my mind I think.

I drafted that message so carefully. I had to make my meaning clear because I’d already said “no” four times to no avail! But I also tried to do it diplomatically and not cause drama. Now they seem to be in a right strop.

OP posts:
stressedmum15 · 24/11/2018 11:57

I hate people like this . They are obviously just like that anyway they think that they are right and you are wrong , boys want to play football and not paint they can't comprehend why anyone would disagree they really aren't listening. I think you are going to have to be firm say thanks but no thanks ds wants painting not football.

Berthatydfil · 24/11/2018 11:58

Wow how rude.
You could reply
It’s a shame J never had what he wanted growing up. But BEN (not me) wants a painting party and that is what he is having.
Please respect Bens wishes.

FeedMeTikka · 24/11/2018 11:58

She sounds like a right twat!

My reply would be along the lines of

J is more than welcome to come, minus the football. As you pointed out it is indeed Ben’s day and I have organised a party and activities which he wants to do. I appreciate J’s experiences growing up with a single parent but every person is different, Ben has plenty of male role models in his life and had I have needed any help with the party I know I could have asked them or J, or even used the football coach that you passed my details on to. There is no weirdness from my side, Ben is having the party he has chosen and whilst I appreciate you think football would work better it isn’t what Ben wants and I would like you to respect that. Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow.

And then I would be taking a massive step back from this woman and her family. Who is she to think they are superior to you?!

RandomMess · 24/11/2018 11:59
Confused
Quartz2208 · 24/11/2018 11:59

Say nothing now OP leave them to decide what to do

It’s clearly their issue with it all

RandomMess · 24/11/2018 12:02

I would reply

How sad J never had a proper party with a theme of his choosing. Ben has chosen the actives for his party not me 🤷🏽‍♀️ perhaps in years to come he will want a Footie party and J could help then if he wants to.

See you and the DC tomorrow

So it's completely J's issue they a projecting on to you and DS - not your problem!!!

userblablabla · 24/11/2018 12:02

Omg please tell this weirdo that neither she nor John are welcome

PerspicaciaTick · 24/11/2018 12:05

IF Ben was school-aged and IF Ben had expressed a preference football and IF the OP had mentioned to her friend that she didn't feel confident arranging a footie party on her own, THEN the offer would have been a kind one.

However deciding that a group of 3 and 4 years MUST have football, regardless of the preferences of the birthday child and their mother AND forcing the issue because John didn't have a football party as a child is, frankly, fucking peculiar.

flumpybear · 24/11/2018 12:06

What a stupid selfish woman! It's all about her and her husband

I agree with @Thebluedog - reiterate that it's nobody's party except your sons and that's what he wanted to do, football would spoil his party, not make it better

Bangwhistlepop2 · 24/11/2018 12:07

I think it's time to end the friendship, show her the thread and tell the pair of them to fuck off.

crabb · 24/11/2018 12:07

Your email was all about Ben - their response is all about them. Says it all really. Get on with party prep and leave them to stew. You can deal with them after.

Yulebealrite · 24/11/2018 12:07

Tell her that there will be no football at the party as ds wants a painting party. Tell her if her son isn't interested in the painting then it's best he doesn't come as that is the main focus of the party.
Can you line up an assertive friend to tell john where to go if he turns up and tries to intervene?

WoodenCat · 24/11/2018 12:08

OP sorry you are so sad, your friend is being an insensitive idiot. Her and her husband’s approach to your situ as a single mum is so wrong, it’s all about what they think and what J feels. They clearly don’t listen to your views or feelings and are trampling over you. Your bond with your son is what matters, you’re listening to him and you’re clearly a lovely mum. Boys don’t have to like football, and having a dad present in their life doesn’t = football loving. It’s such a basic and pathetic interpretation of how fathering works. You are mum and dad to your boy and I reckon you’re doing a sterling job without do-gooder patronising folk getting in on the act.