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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

OP posts:
PrincessJuanita · 24/11/2018 09:00

Just asked my six year old ds which he would choose...... the answer was "painting" without hesitation.

HippoLatte · 24/11/2018 09:17

My eldest son would have loved a painting party. He has always hated football and didn't enjoy many parties as they were football parties and not much else. He always enjoyed other parties that had something different going on.

DS2 would have rather had a football party as he hated doing anything arty and loved playing football.

You aren't going to please everyone so I'd just make sure the person who IS pleased is the birthday boy.

SparkyBlue · 24/11/2018 09:18

My DD did baking as part of her party recently. Everyone was very proud of their cookies that they got to take home with them and it wouldn't have entered my head to think that the boys wouldn't enjoy it.

HerculesTheBercules · 24/11/2018 09:22

Love that wee rocket!

Valasca · 24/11/2018 09:31

Honestly, that’s what most people do as a first activity at the birthday party for the first 15 minutes while all the guests arrive — you either have kids decorate their treat bags or you have them paint some hobbycraft rocket/horse/butterfly thing.

I’d not really call that a painting party Confused

FrangipaniBlue · 24/11/2018 09:32

I can't really work out why but this has really given me the rage on your behalf OP!

Basically she's saying her son would prefer football to painting so she's going to derail YOUR sons party to appease her son.

WTF??

I'd be telling John and his footballs to stay the fuck at home and telling friend that if her previous DS does not want to join in with your sons chosen birthday activities then perhaps he should stay at home too Angry

FrangipaniBlue · 24/11/2018 09:35

Precious not previous Hmm

TeaStory · 24/11/2018 09:40

Well done, OP. Hopefully she will get the message, but if she pushes don’t be afraid to be firmer. She might be offended, she might not, but that’s her problem for being pushy.

Also, I want to paint a plaster rocket now.

gamerwidow · 24/11/2018 09:45

That’s a very tactful message well done for standing your ground. There is no room for misunderstanding there so I hope you DS has a brilliant party doing the things he wants to do.
At the age my DD hated party games but I did not pitch up to parties with my own separate activities demanding DD be allowed to do them. What weirdos.

BlancheM · 24/11/2018 09:50

Hope your DS enjoys his day! If the problem parents' son starts playing up, just say 'hey it looks like (football fan) is getting a bit tired, I don't mind if you have to leave early' whilst steering them towards the door 😂

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 24/11/2018 09:55

That was a great message, well done!
If Friend has trouble with social cues then she might not have been being a CF, just struggling to see that you really don't want the football option and desperate to help.

Hopefully she'll take that on board and all will be well for the party tomorrow!

Etino · 24/11/2018 10:07

Great message! 🤞 it works and you have a great party.

Issewingreallyjustforgirls · 24/11/2018 10:30

Well done for being so polite OP.

Your friend sounds like an absolute tool. In what world do 'boys' not like painting?

I've name changed especially for this as it reveals too much about me...

I teach Textiles at KS3. (11-14) Boys & girls. Many people (like your ridiculous friend) would consider this subject to be one only girls would enjoy.

The truth is that the vast majority of boys love what we do. It's so different to their 'norm' - The subject offers a calm, safe environment and they are all creating something (they see) is worthwhile.
There are no egos to contend with, no competition, no rights and no wrongs.
Believe me, their enthusiasm & focus is amazing.
Yes, some get frustrated if they can't pick it up straight away but they persevere.

Boys especially are very vocal in their opinions. I hear a lot when they are working and can honestly say it's enlightening. A few examples from 13/14 year old boys (Year 9) this week...

'I love this' 'Why can't we do this all year?' (We have an 8 week block)
'I'm going to put this in my room'
'I'm going to give this to my Mum'
'It (the fabric) is so soft'
'What would happen if...do you think it would look good if...'
'Do you think I can finish it Miss?'
'Can we start straight away today?'
'When I was little, my Mum/Nanna/Grandad showed me how to do this.'

Yes, I do have the odd lad who comes in at the start of the block with a bit of a swagger but they soon conform when they realise that their 'mates' are getting into it.

There is nothing wrong with having a passion for sport and football. Most of the lads I teach love shouting, gaming, competing and kicking a ball around as much as the next boy. Some are aggressive little buggers during social time and many have a reputation to live up to.

I am under no illusion that sewing will be taken up as a hobby but for a few weeks I am privileged to see the gentler side of their nature and I love them for it.

smiler0206 · 24/11/2018 10:35

It's YOUR son's birthday party not hers. You need to send her a message and say thanks for the offer it was really kind but you won't be needing her DH help as you have enough activities planned and won't have time or the space for football. She doesn't have to bring her son. I think this sound like a great party for young children and fun for both boys and girls.

QwertyLou · 24/11/2018 11:27

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Heismyopendoor · 24/11/2018 11:30

Wow!

She’s cheeky as hell!

QwertyLou · 24/11/2018 11:31

(I just broke it into paragraphs & changed the names)

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eggncress · 24/11/2018 11:33

omg OP !

Do you still want her as a friend ? She sounds way out of order. Totally trampling your boundaries.

I hope she’s not planning on bringing John round still and putting your ds on the spot ?

Mouthfulofquiz · 24/11/2018 11:35

Flipping heck. She is a MASSIVE DICK.

DistanceCall · 24/11/2018 11:35

Christ, what an idiot.

You made it perfectly clear that her husband is welcome. If you like, try telling her something like:

"J is absolutely welcome to come, and I never took his offer as an offence. It's just that we don't want any football activities in my son's birthday party because he prefers painting, and it is HIS party after all.

Not everyone has the same idea of what a "lads' party" looks like. If you feel you can respect my son's preferences, we'll be delighted to see you."

Or something to that effect.

kenandbarbie · 24/11/2018 11:35

Sorry john felt like that growing up. Ben asked for a painting party so that's what I'm giving him. Nothing personal!

DartmoorDoughnut · 24/11/2018 11:37

“If you don’t want weirdness for the kids stop being weird.

Ben has plenty of male role models in his life.

No two children or people are the same. Please stop putting YOUR preferences on to MY child.”

MrDonut · 24/11/2018 11:38

Well, someone's projecting their issues. 🤦‍♀️

IStandWithPosie · 24/11/2018 11:39

That’s an absolute twat! What a knob. I can’t believe she would do this over a child’s birthday party. Tbh it sounds like you’ve had a lucky escape OP. She clearly thinks she can parent your “poor fatherless boy” better than you can and will be interfering like this his entire life. Use this as an opportunity to bin her off.

RunSweatLaughAndLatte · 24/11/2018 11:42

I'd just message and say your son really wants to do painting and as it's his birthday he gets to choose what he wants to do. Thank her for her kind offer and that you might ask John for a future party but he is not required for this one