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to tell my friend to sod off with her helpful husband!

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QwertyLou · 23/11/2018 03:08

Thanks for the amazing advice before & this is my last question on this party I promise (its on Sunday so it better be)!!

My son (nearly 4) is going through an arty-crafty stage. He loves painting more than anything. So I wasn't surprised when he announced he wanted to do painting "with my friends for my WHOLE party!"

So we're doing some painting at his party (15 mins or so), along with lots of other fun things. Just little plaster rockets and spaceships, one for each child to paint and they take it home.

When I mentioned this to a friend she made a horrified face... "Painting... for boys??" And recommended I scrap it for a football session, perhaps with the man from her son's party.

I hadn't even realised that painting was considered "un-manly" and boys were not supposed to enjoy it... is that a thing?

My son enjoyed the football session, but not enough to want the same thing. Plus it was an hour-long session - I'd have to scrap half the party! Which I explained to my friend.

Unbeknownst to me she gave my no. to Football Man who contacted me, so I explained myself again and thought that was it. But no.

Yesterday my friend announced that she has kindly lined up her husband ("John") to do a football activity "in parallel" with the painting. So her son and other boys can do football while anyone else is painting.

I said that of course John, would be welcome to play football with their son during the painting if they want. No child, boy or girl, will be compelled to paint a plaster rocket against their will! We'll be in the back garden with plenty of things to do.

But I really do not want John to announce an official "Come on kids line up over here!!" activity just as the painting is starting. The whole idea is to bring everyone (or most people) together for a quieter activity they can enjoy as a group - then we'll have the cake.

And my son is really excited about painting with his friends. I keep finding him in the kitchen, gazing longingly up at all the paint stuff. If they all race off to play football, it will defeat the whole purpose [delete](plus I'll be left with a mountain of plaster rockets)[delete].

I explained all this to my friend but she was having none of it.

She said John was more than happy to do it, it would be fun, it was important to let "boys be boys" and she knows it must be hard for me as a single mum to cater for boys, hence her lining up John.

We were both getting our sons into the car after nursery and she drove off after that.

So as it stands, John is "kindly" doing this official activity on Sunday.

I don't want him to, but what do I say to make that clear without offending anyone?

Part of me feels a bit ungrateful too. We single mothers of boys are constantly berated by society to ensure our sons have good male role models (GMRM) or they will turn into anti-social, drug-taking juvenile delinquents.

And lo and behold, here one is - a GMRM - volunteering something!
And am I gratefully accepting? No, I am saying no (trying to)!

OP posts:
Johnsi · 23/11/2018 16:12

I'm really angry on your behalf.

it's your son's birthday, it's what he wants at his party, what makes her think it's all right for her to interfere?

I think it's perfectly reasonable to put your foot down. She's out of line.

RebootYourEngine · 23/11/2018 16:43

Have you received a reply yet. I hope she realises what a twat she has been and apologises.

WhyAmISoCold · 23/11/2018 17:27

My son loved painting parties and still has the things he painted.

If she doesn't get it from your text, be firmer. The football idea is shit and most kids like painting regardless of what is between their legs.

crosstalk · 23/11/2018 19:39

OP what did your text say? have you had a response?

Or are you too busy clearing your home of breakables and hiding footballs?

BumsexAtTheBingo · 23/11/2018 22:40

If John turns up with a football I would be sure to ‘join in’ and hoof it over whichever bit of fence it is least likely to be returned from.

QwertyLou · 24/11/2018 04:11

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QwertyLou · 24/11/2018 04:13

(An email .. didn’t text that!) No response yet

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QwertyLou · 24/11/2018 04:17

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DistanceCall · 24/11/2018 04:55

So your friend is taking over the organising of your son's birthday party. And you are allowing it?

Tell her in no uncertain terms that NO, her husband is not welcome to come and set up his own little football thing and to please leave you in peace to make whatever arrangements you (and your son) want.

mathanxiety · 24/11/2018 05:01

Why are you reassuring these human tanks? They have already taken a mile when given an inch...

Hope my apprehensions will be proved wrong. If I were you I would be praying for heavy rain.

YYY to hoofing the ball over the fence if they show up with one.

RollerJed · 24/11/2018 05:18

@DistanceCall did you bother to read the thread, or even the last update Hmm

Good on you OP. Wtf does 'letting boys be boys' even mean regarding playing football.

QwertyLou · 24/11/2018 05:56

Maybe “reassure” was the wrong word, but a couple of PP related woeful experiences of trying to get small people to sit for an arty activity (although far more had good experiences).

And maybe in saying “painting” I gave the impression of an overly long drawn out solemn activity.

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MyOtherProfile · 24/11/2018 06:01

Well done for that message. When my son was 4 he would have much preferred to paint rockets than play football. He did have a football mad phase at about 8 but lots of boys never do. Your friend is helpful but a bit mad.

Lindy2 · 24/11/2018 06:08

Well done for saying no. You were politer than I would have been.
She seems to have overlooked that it is your son's party not hers.
I am sure the painting will be very popular. The rocket looks great.

crabb · 24/11/2018 06:14

That message was good. Hope she gets the hint!

Labradoodliedoodoo · 24/11/2018 06:21

Text ‘okthe plan forSunday. Please let John know that all the kids will start the painting activity together and then I’ll send anyone whose finished outside for footy. That way son still gets to paint with all his mates’

mathanxiety · 24/11/2018 06:36

I don't think they misunderstood what 'painting' meant.

They are afraid you are going to turn their son gay Hmm
"Painting... for boys??"

Oddsocksforeveryone · 24/11/2018 07:04

For Ds2 5th birthday he had an arts and crafts party. We rented a hall and just put out a load of tables with all the interesting craft tat supplies he chose himself from Baker Ross, for an hour, followed by food. The kids loved it.
Shockingly, there was no sports activity.
At ds1s 5th dinosaur themed birthday they painted dinosaurs that I had cast myself from plaster of Paris and the most football mad kid ever was so upset when his broke at home I made him up a kit to paint some more.
I've got 4dc (3 boys) have never been told painting is for girls and just because I have a herd of kids doesn't mean I ever tell people how to parent their kids. Bloody rediculous.

PrincessJuanita · 24/11/2018 07:19

Your friend is patronising you and I strongly suspect that now you have started to stand up to her and not let her railroad you, you may find that she's less of a friend than you thought. Also, don't be surprised if John still tries to start up a football game anyway. They sound pretty thick skinned.
I hope your party goes well!

StealthPolarBear · 24/11/2018 07:34

Any reply? When is the party?

GrandmaSharksDentures · 24/11/2018 08:09

Anyone else loving "baby Panasonic" (misses point of thread)

AnnaBegins · 24/11/2018 08:11

My DS had a painting and craft party this year too, all kids loved it, especially the boys as we did water pistol painting! Plus some collage and necklaces. No boys were harmed by the activity... your party idea sounds fantastic, all the kids will love it. I hope your friends don't spoil it.

imverycold · 24/11/2018 08:21

She sounds like such a dick. My 4 year old boy would definitely choose the painting

pictish · 24/11/2018 08:34

Hope she’s got the message. She sounds a dick like the last poster says but maybe she’s just well intentioned but a little overbearing.

Not every boy wants to play football ffs and even if they did not every occasion has to include it. She sounds rather unimaginative and two dimensional if she can’t see past the bloody ‘football for boys’ mentality. Her kids like it...so what? I’m sure she’s a lovely lady but she’s restricting herself to the confines of her own arse.

BarbedBloom · 24/11/2018 08:45

Well done for the message. My husband studied fine art at university and still paints now. My nephew recently had a painting party and it went really well, although there were only 8 of them if that makes a difference. Very rude or your friend to presume she knows best than you