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Neighbour not giving the kids' balls back...

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MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 20:06

We've lived here for 4 years and we are by far the youngest people in our cud-d-sac. Very rural village.

Got on with her at the beginning - invites into our house for a brew; sorted out our party wall without asking her for a contribution; called in on her when we hadn't seen her for a while and lots of shopping (for which we asked no payment) during the snow when she wasn't happy about going out in the car. I also helped her with something at the Land Registry because she got a dodge phone call from someone about her house so I gave her some advice and did all that for free of course - I'm a solicitor btw.

There is a park just up the lane so the kids don't generally play anything in the garden save badminton and trampoline.

We perhaps have a ball go into her garden once every three months - I'm tell you think because if we were bothering her every day I'd see her point.

The last couple of times husband and kids (and on occasion our nanny) went around to get the ball she went inside and hid.

My husband then decided to lower our 9 yo into her garden to collect the balls for himself. There were about 4 from the last year, I think longer actually but couldn't be sure.

She then had a go at husband over the fence because of this trespass. I don't agree with what husband did.

It ended after a little while when she said that she didn't think the kids should be playing with balls in their garden, she was afraid of being hit by them in her own garden (i was listening from upstairs - I didn't want to join in as it would be very top heavy against her and despite her failings, I didn't want to get into it with her AND my husband! That would be stressful for her).

Husband told her to get a grip and that there is literally zero chance of her getting hit because here are large tree her side of the fence so the balls go over, hit the tree and slide down. THe balls land about 1 foot from the fence, if you see what I mean?

That was the end of their argument and we haven't spoke since. I didn't want her to feel uncomfortable living next to us, we are many and she is solo, so when I saw her I waved a greeting but she just ignored me.

This evening the eldest got a new rugby ball and it ended up in her garden. Eldest and nanny went around to get it and she said something along the lines of "I did ask that you didn't play with the balls" and she (I think anyway) intimated she'd chuck it over.

It still isn't here. I'm fairly fucked off.

Husband said to her during their heated conversation that she didn't need to chuck it over, she could just notice it behind her trees and bring it to the front of the house when she was next going that way and we'd collect it from there when we saw it.

The front of all our houses are not fenced in, so we'd see it, the whole road is open plan so we'd spot the ball, we could lean over, grab it and that would be that.

She has a bad back so this is why she can't throw it over, she said.

How do we move forward?

I don't want to go around and get heated and intimidate her. Although she's a massive pain in my arse after me being such a (genuinely) decent (and modest 😂) neighbour.

A letter? Perhaps something along the lines of "buy a house with a fuck pot of land around it if you don't want to deal with this type of shit"...but less confrontational...

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MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:06

I'll have to get ball from tonight back - it was lent to the eldest from the club. Ffs. 🙄

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Mummymummums · 16/09/2018 21:07

I think you sound a decent and thoughtful neighbour, and she's chosen to burn her bridges. She's not willing to reciprocate all the favours you've done for her by returning your DC's very occasional balls.
She sounds petty. You can't make her return them though. I'd be cross (and would probably try to get the ball back during dark or when she goes out).
Certainly stop doing her favours.

MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:08

But we've been here 4 years now and I can count on two hands how often we've had to go to her to get them back.

So she knows as well as we do just how infrequent the inconvenience is.

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TwistedStitch · 16/09/2018 21:09

It was pretty foolish to play with a borrowed ball in the circumstances!

winefortea · 16/09/2018 21:11

Can't you put some net up at the top of your fence to stop them going over?

MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:11

Yes I'll look into the sort of GAA netting they have in the clubs at home (Ireland) - it won't be pretty but she won't see it from her side as she has tree cover.

And then in the meantime the park for he 9yo whenever he wants to kick a ball. It seems like a bit of a shame really to be banished! Maybe it will help him improve his aim...

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MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:11

He's a foolish kid.

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ChipsAndKetchup · 16/09/2018 21:16

She sounds mean and grumpy.

Nip round into the garden now while it's dark and nick the ball back. Then pop a net up. Job done.

MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:19

God no, I'm not dangling over the fence!

Husband away on business so not happening (and nor should it!).

I might go around tomorrow after work and knock. Ask for the rugby ball back, tell her it'll be the last time but also she's made it clear she wants nothing more from us and she can expect no favours.

So not how I was raised but there you go.

I might just get a long net and get it that way 😂!!

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Saggital · 16/09/2018 21:20

LTRB

Lucy001 · 16/09/2018 21:23

Isn't it a bit perverse that you are so possessive over a ball that is YOURS but can't understand that she might be possessive over a garden that is HERS? For goodness sake, one day you'll be 70 and maybe you will have your own peculiar ways, if you don't have any already.

ektomarie · 16/09/2018 21:25

Right. So once every 3 months, your boys kick a ball over.

But they’re not playing once every 3 months, are they? They play daily? At least once a week? And she’s scared to go into her garden every time your kids hit a ball in your garden. She’s told you she’s afraid. And you’ve dismissed her feelings because you’ve decided it can’t happen.

That’s not being a great neighbour at all.

bigbluebus · 16/09/2018 21:26

The eldest can go to the park to play ball but why should he?

Because he can't control the ball enough to keep it within your garden so he needs to play in a bigger space. {Unless you're now going to say that the park is surrounded by houses and he kicks the ball over from the park into peoples' gardens from there too!}

MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:26

It's not that I'm possessive over the ball. I'm more irritated by her stance when we (both my husband and I) have been sincerely good neighbours over the years.

I'm not perversely possessive over the ball. I'm fucked off (and hurt a little I suppose) that she's not returning the neighbourly favours we've shown her over the years.

It doesn't seem fair, but life isn't.

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Costacoffeeplease · 16/09/2018 21:28

You lost any moral high ground the minute your arse of a husband dangled a child into her garden, then got into an argument with her instead of apologising. Is he always such a twat?

Not a great idea to play with a borrowed ball when you know there’s a chance it will go into a neighbour’s garden

Your husband’s twattishness must be catching

MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:28

There's one house by the park and a chapel.

No need to be snippy.

Yes, the kids are outside as much as the weather allows. In their garden, playing. I don't see your point, I'm
Sorry.

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Costacoffeeplease · 16/09/2018 21:29

Do you only do good deeds in the expectation of favours in return?

Havaina · 16/09/2018 21:30

OP, you've now posted the same post 3 or 4 times, and I've lost any initial sympathy I had for you. It's a ball. Get over it. Limit DS to £1 balls if you're so bloody tight. Sorry to be harsh but you do sound increasingly batshit the more you post.

MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:30

No he's not always a twat. He's one of the good ones, but yanno, the halo slips and I told
Him off - nothing I can do about the past to be fair.

How am I being a twat, exactly? I don't see it here. I can be a twat, naturally (we all can, calling people
Twats for no particular reason on a forum being
One manifestation). But not in this particular instance.

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FaFoutis · 16/09/2018 21:31

It's empathy that's missing here. Think about how she feels - lots of posts here aim to help with that.

MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:32

What same post?

I don't expect anything in return for my good deeds, but surely you would hope to foster some goodwill?

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MinecraftMother · 16/09/2018 21:33

I conceded earlier that she might honestly believe she could be hit and that I'd tell the eldest to play in the park and get nets.

Did you miss that post?

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Costacoffeeplease · 16/09/2018 21:34

I think it’s fairly obvious why your husband in particular, and family in general, have behaved like twats, but if you can’t see it, you can’t (shrug)

You maybe had some goodwill before your husband started his child dangling act

LanguidLobster · 16/09/2018 21:35

@Lucy001 I love your term 'peculiar ways', I certainly have mine!

Unfortunately OP it comes across that your neighbour is feeling threatened and defensive, so tread lightly

Havaina · 16/09/2018 21:36

Well, saying 'yanno' is pretty twatty, for a start...

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