Just found this on family laptop

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I'm need need of some advice. After work, I sat down to type something in the address bar on Explorer (I was typing Hotmail, to be precise) and as I started typing (literally one or two letters) my search bar suggested 'homosexual anime porn' and 'homosexual manga porn'. I went into our Internet users history and found that over a 30-60 minute period in the middle of the night (Friday or Saturday night, I can't remember) someone has searched for the above, plus manga incest, male on male gay porn and more. It would almost be funny (because of the animal element) if it wasn't so disturbing.

I have two DDs, aged 10 and 13. The younger one has her own laptop which she saved up for, so she doesn't use ours. The older one does use ours to play on and do homework, although at the times that correspond to when she was using it during the day just contain educational sites because she has been doing a history project. Both girls have been learning to draw manga. Little one hasn't heard of homosexual porn or incest, and the big one might have at school. She has never shown any interest in boys, or girls for that matter, but might be curious? If it turns out to be her, we will obviously be having a serious chat and supervising all screen use, because she will have betrayed our trust by going online during the night and googling unsuitable topics.

Then there is DH... we have been married for 20 years and he as straight as straight can be, or so I thought. I guess I am asking how I should approach this, because if it's not him then we need to have a serious chat with our daughter.

Unless there is some kind of virus or malware that generates this kind of thing? (Clutching at straws).

Who knew hotmail was still on the go.

Yaoi is extremely popular, even amongst straight Japanese females. So, that's why there are a) many, many ads for it linked to manga sites, and b) there is A LOT of manga and anime dedicated to it. It can get very racy and sexual, but, it's also got it's "romantic/excitable" side, which is why it's so popular.

it could be either. start with your husband. although he would have deleted the search history?

I think it could be either.

I wouldn’t be overly concerned whichever one of them it turns out to be. We humans are a curious bunch & animated porn isn’t hurting anyone.

Given the (only just turned) 13yo is still all about kittens & ponies I’d be a bit surprised, but we talk about sex, porn, abuse and all manner of things, so I definitely wouldn’t be cross with her for looking this up.

If it was DH I’d be ‘You really were having trouble sleeping 🤣 WTAF were you looking up this shite for? Learn anything new...😂🤣’.

I'm surprised by the content googled, I wouldn't say that was usual porn and some of it sounds quite disturbing. I would be very surprised by a 12 year old googling gay porn and incest.
As it's a shared computer can you not put restrictions on usage or parental controls of some kind.

Could your husband have been watching a move that made reference to this so he just looked it up to see if it was a real thing?

If it was your daughter it could have been a discussion in school that she didn’t understand so wanted to investigate?

Either way it’s not the end of the world. Good luck with the chats!!!

Never even heard of yaoi or hentai! Neither DH nor DD would think to clear history or use incognito tabs. Neither has phone synced with computer either. I don't think DH can even get online with his brick of a phone.

I have been out, but am off home to put DDS to bed and talk to DH.

I’m sure it’s DD, iirc when I was that age I used to read those hells angels and skinhead novels from the early 70s. I’m sure my DM didn’t know I read them

I would put all my money on dd

I think it’s the daughter - sorry if I’ve misded an update but I only say this because I was looking up this sort of stuff at thirteen and was an avid and popular yaoi writer who spent all my time on tumblr and DeviantART (and still do! ) - the thing is yes terms such as incest or Male on Male aren’t exactly terms you would expect a 13yo to search independently but you don’t know what she’s been searching/influenced by in that she could’ve been led down a hole iyswim. And I say that as the thirteen year old girl who read incestuous fics (Supernatural, anyone?), and learned about BDSM, omorashi, yaoi, all sorts, through fandoms and websites - and participated in it, too. Dangers of totally unsupervised internet access.

Good luck on chatting with both of them and I hope you get the answers you need. If anything the only thing I’d press on is the incest search but if it is your daughter she may have seen it and not understood the term and I’d say that it’s not something you’d want her to read or see... as for stuff like yaoi honestly it’s such a natural ‘thing’ amongst teens, it’s popular and like a PP said very rarely graphic and mostly unrequited love, Romeo and Juliet esque! Even Male on Male - it’s common amongst straight girls, I wouldn’t think she needs to be questioned on her sexuality. Haven’t you seen/heard of the 1D thing, Larry Stylinson, a gay conspiracy theory that took over mumsnet a year or two ago?! Honestly. it really is popular

I think it's eldest dd. If theres an Interest in anime then it could be popular with her whole class and I assume boys are a part of that. I wouldn't be surprised if the boys have been spreading the rumours. I remember what the boys in my class were like at that age. They knew about a lot of shocking stuff. Pornhub has a section of anime porn too so young boys looking for wank fodder then chatting about it at school for all ears to hear and be intrigued by.
You should increase your parental controls.

I'd be surprised if a 12year old girl would want to watch two men having sex.

Hahahaha! Oh, grasshopper, you have much to learn.

Also, a lot of you are clearly imagining this as actual filmed porn with actual grown men in it. It isn't. It's pictures, short animations, and written fiction of two effeminate teen boys (or two real adult male actors in feminised imaginative drawn versions) having Intense Feels and occasionally getting naked because of their Deep (and Possibly Forbidden) Lurrrrrve. It's really, in its own way, rather innocent.

And being into this stuff is almost exclusively the preserve of straight or mostly-straight girls and women. If it is the DD I'd consider it a sign she's very much straight. Teen girls are curious about and interested in sex and male bodies, and this is a very common way they explore it. Even 12 and 13 year olds have a sex drive, of a nascent and nervous kind.

I would say the daughter because I was doing the same at that age, although either searched the relation"ship" name I was interested in (Drarry, for example), or use teens like yaoi or slash. So, if it is her, I don't think she's ultra into it yet, looks like she's just discovering it to me and exploring it. Maybe?

*terms not teens!

There's some very naive posts on this thread. Just check out archive of our own for the amount of slash type fiction be it manga or traditional tv shows. The vast majority of it written by female authors.

The anime images are used on online fetish forum.

There's lot of threads on the Feminist Board about the recent revelations concerning a trans identifying male standing for Deputy leader (Aimee Challoner) of the Green Party. "She" is influential in the trans movement and campaigns to open up women's and girls spaces to male bodied trans.

"She" is well known in the fetish world (wearing nappies, bondage, domination, petting etc) with a cute little anime character of "Cassie" aged 2, in a relationship with a family of similar characters that are "adult babies" and trans too. "Her" father, David Challenor was sentenced to 22 years imprisonment in August for raping and torturing a 10 year old girl, while dressed as a little called called Lucy. He had an anime character.

What a world. Google 'anime' and discover all those weird fetishes if you can bear it.

Who knew hotmail was still on the go

Hotmail was killed off in 2013, pre-existing users access through Outlook. The Hotmail website has been dead for years.

I suspect it's your daughter. She's learning how to draw Manga art so one can assume she has probably Googled "Manga" plenty of times. Unfortunately even the most innocuous of Google searches can produce unsavoury results, plus - given that anime porn is very big in Japan (and therefore there's loads of it online) - it wouldn't be surprising if she has stumbled across Manga porn by accident.

Why the middle of night? She's a teenager and curious; I doubt it has anything to do with her actual sexual interests (incest?). Plus she doesn't have have her own laptop. Perfectly normal.

Regarding the search terms and whether or not a child could think of them: your daughter/husband might not have actually searched for "homosexual anime porn" or "male on male gay porn", etc - it could have started with a simpler search which escalated, but everything has been saved in the history. Check your own history - I bet you'll have loads of sites/search results you never actively searched for (but clicked on). A virus or malware wouldn't generate dodgy search results so those clutched straws can be discarded.

If it is your husband then I'd seriously question why he got up in the middle of the night to search for anime porn. There's no excuses for that. Maybe he's a night owl and it was pure curiosity, albeit one which lasted 30-60 minutes... (again, no excuses). Either way, I'm sure he would delete the history. Your daughter, on the other hand, is at the typical age when bedtime means nothing and an hour online less so (especially when finding new, interesting and weird stuff).

"Manga" is not pornographic though (well, mostly). It's a certain art style used in comics and animated films. However, some Manga can be rated 18 and feature explicit content. I found this out for myself many years ago when I was also learning to draw in the Manga style. My parents bought me the video adaption of Urotsukidōji for Christmas (I was about 13 at the time). The first couple of scenes depicted a schoolboy sneaking into a girl's changing room and masturbating while watching them undress, and a female school teacher raping a female student. Apparently my parents bought it from somewhere like Woolworths; they thought it was a harmless cartoon. I never told them about it - just said it was a good film when asked; luckily, they weren't interested enough to watch it! - and I think the video is still in their house somewhere (packed away in the attic, thankfully).

There's even Simpsons porn nowadays, including incestuous porn featuring Marge, Homer, Bart and Lisa (not sure about Maggie [shudders]), and parental controls are crap at filtering it out. It's very easy for curious kids to find such stuff.

taylor22 has it spot on. The scariest thing about the internet is how the adults of children growing up with it seriously underestimate both the internet and their child's ability to use it.

"She" is well known in the fetish world (wearing nappies, bondage, domination, petting etc) with a cutelittle anime character of "Cassie" aged 2, in a relationship with a family of similar characters that are "adult babies" and trans too. "Her" father, David Challenor was sentenced to 22 years imprisonment in August for raping and torturing a 10 year old girl, while dressed as a little called called Lucy. He had an anime character.

Absolutely disgusting. Sick pieces of shit.

^Bloody hell, sorry for the essay! I didn't realise I had typed that much.

Some people even read it just for amusement!
I'm not into men , but I do still recall a very amusing Drevillle - well, not actually Dreville but mistaken for it, with Severus asking him why not Drarry... Still chuckle when it pops into my head from some dark corner, like when people mention slash.

My bet is on your DH, esp if you watch anime as a family...maybe he has enjoyed it more than you realised?

Perhaps she was googling the terms because she's curious to know what they mean after hearing them at school, but knowing they're sexual not wanting to ask her parents?