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Staying at in-laws with dc and there is no food

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daytimemom · 11/08/2018 16:30

Arrived at in-laws with DH (their son) and our two dc’s. For context, they are very well off. Live in huge house in the country, spend six months a year on cruises, have new car etc.

This is the first time we have visited them in their new house. Normally they stay at our house where we cook meals for them, provide wine and snacks and generally be very hospitable. They certainly enjoy all our food and drink.

This is what they served DH and I for dinner; two small roast potato’s, one small parsnip, teaspoon of peas and carrots, three slices of chicken. Our dc who are 11 and 12 had the same but with one roast potato rather than two. Dessert was one scoop of ice cream. DH asked if he could have another scoop but was told no as the carton (think Ben & Jerry’s small sized carton) had to last them a week.

By evening the dc were ravenous. I asked mil if dc could have a slice of toast or cereal. Was told they only had muesli and one small loaf of brown seeded bread. DC do not like either. I asked if there was any fruit was told no. DH asked if there was a bag of crisps, again no.

I’m not proud of this but DH and I went through the fridge and cupboards trying to find something to eat but the cupboards were literally bare.

DH went out this morning to buy some bread, cheese etc (which fil helped himself too) and I suggested to mil we go out to dinner but she insisted she is cooking. Dreading another tiny meal & the dc’s being hungry.

DH said they are just being tight by not spending money on food and drink. I quite frankly want to go home. Simple things like they knew we were coming but the bathroom had no towels or soap, no mirror or lamp in guest bedroom. Could they not have bought some cornflakes & snacks knowing most kids don’t eat muesli!

They have always been mean with money, poor DH as a uni student was penniless living off toast and pawning his stuff while his parents refused and financial assistance.

OP posts:
MoreProsecco · 12/08/2018 00:18

My parents are under-caterers Blush. Dad has the appetite of a sparrow & dementia. Mum is losing confidence in cooking for groups of people & has some food issues. They seem genuinely surprised by how much normal people eat. I also think there's an element of passive aggression, with her not being able to communicate that she can't cope with catering so she sabotages her hospitality (if that makes sense.)

We recently had visitors from overseas & mum was struggling to cope; so I bought extra bread, fruit, cheese etc as I knew the "rations" would not be enough.

But my sisters & I do mention, openly & kindly, that there is not enough food for X people. She doesn't seem to "get it".

SandAndSea · 12/08/2018 00:19

I've been in this situation a few times before. It's not always narcissism, miserliness etc (though it certainly can be). I have had to speak seriously to 3 elderly family members about them not eating enough. (Sometimes medication takes the appetite.) My mum, for example, is the loveliest host around but her portions have become smaller since she's been cooking mostly for just herself and when I visit, I often have to remind her that I need more food.

Some examples of things you or preferably, your husband could say:

"We're hungry."
"We're not getting enough food."
"We need to get some more food in."
"I'm happy to do an online order. What would you like?"
"Shall I just order a takeaway for tonight and do a supermarket order in the morning?"
"I don't understand. You always eat well when you visit us. Why don't you have more food in?"

There's no need to be full on about it. I would speak privately, away from the table and aim for straight but gentle.

If they still don't budge then leave early and let them know why. Please don't go hungry for the sake of "politeness". (Remember, no good host would want to see their guests go hungry.)

Elllicam · 12/08/2018 00:30

That’s shocking I hope you got your cheese on toast and didn’t share it OP.

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ilovesooty · 12/08/2018 00:55

I remember as a child we drove to visit my aunt. It was snowing badly and a 45 minute journey took well over 3 hours. We were so looking forward to a hot meal.
My aunt produced three small ham salads for us children and my mother, then a large roast dinner for my father, who was pronounced to be in need of feeding up.
We were really hungry on that visit and none of us ever forgot it.

Skittlesandbeer · 12/08/2018 01:00

Since we’re all hanging around for updates (which will no doubt come as I type this) I’ll tell you about my granny. Just back from visiting her for 2 weeks on the other side of the planet. She’s 97.

She insists on silver service mealtimes, 3 times a day. Changes of plate, fish knives, multiple crystal glasses each, the works. There’s 1st & 2nd course, salad, cheese, fruit and sweets with coffee. She has staff, who spend half their waking hours setting and clearing tables.

Only problem is, the actual food quantity is minuscule and often poor quality. Of the few things she buys, every scrap must be finished (wartime thinking). So the cheese course is often just a couple of rinds with pretty white blossoms on. If she made a raw egg mayo on Saturday, we find it on a boiled (1/2) egg on Thursday Envy as a starter. When it’s ‘bread buying day’ she divvies it up and freezes it as soon as we get home. Then it’s doled out (partially) defrosted each mealtime. I swear she hasn’t eaten a piece of fruit without needing to cut rotten bits off since the late 1930’s.

Ironically, she lives in a country renowned for its food and hospitality (and bread) like no other. Everyone assumes I’ll be gorging on phenomenal specialities when I go, and are surprised when I came home thinner than when I left. There should be some kind of prize at the airport.

I used to get around it by walking to town (3km in 36 degree heat) and lugging back food for myself from the supermarket. Unfortunately I need the fridge to store a lot of it. She’d give it away to the staff as soon as she found it! I feel so bad about what they get given to eat, I don’t have the heart to ask for it back.

I think word got out, cos this year there was a surprise street food festival while I was there, put on by council. I spent a fortune on crispy fried seafood, jewelled wine, shaslicks and powdered sugar carby delights! I rolled home singing!

Honestly, I don’t get cross or resentful at my granny. Her ways are not mine. There’ll be no changing her. I see it as good fodder for stories, and may even look back on it fondly one day when she’s gone. I’ve made my peace with it, even if sometimes my tummy hasn’t (grumble grumble).

I know in the OP’s position (with hungry kids involved) I wouldn’t be so giving and calm. I’d probably make their stinginess the family joke. I’d be on the phone in their presence, mentioning the hunger and portion sizes with genuine laughter. I’d happily let my kids place bets on how little was likely to be served at dinner as a game for all to play ‘Oh, I think little Jimmy won tonight grandad- he said there’d be just enough bits of pasta to make his initials with!’. Invite some of DH’s childhood mates around to eat, maybe?

I’m pretty sure stingy people really hate being outed to the big wide world, and I don’t mind using that as a lever for change. Love isn’t enough, but embarrassment can be!!

hmmwhatatodo · 12/08/2018 01:06

This reminds me of lots of times when I was younger and often went to bed really hungry, not a case of couldn’t afford it, more a case of can’t be bothered to make anything.

On a lighter note I really really want cheese on toast now with lots of cheese.

GreenTulips · 12/08/2018 01:23

Yes, DH had the top bit of the roll and I had the bottom bit!

You were short changed there! Tip is the best bit!

Where we come from rolls are in packs off 3 - where are the other 3?

Beechview · 12/08/2018 01:40

I’ve bern staying at my mums for a few days. She eats like a bird but had bought lots of stuff in especially for us including crisps, cereals and biscuits that she wouldn’t ever eat and filled the fruit bowl.
I also took a load of stuff down with me as i don’t think it’s fair to expect my mum to spend so much more.
Op just go shopping tomorrow, tell your Ils that although you’re thankful that theyve provided food, it’s not enough. Remind her that they’ve seen how much food you all eat when they come to yours.
Find out what she’s cooking for dinners and make sure there’s enough by topping up yourselves.
Or just go home.

Graphista · 12/08/2018 02:47

This was the one issue I had with my ex in-laws.

But in their case they were genuinely oblivious.

Mil had always been a sahm/housewife and not really physically active with it and very slim so not much appetite.

Fil had retired from his active job just before I met dh and his appetite reduced as a result. But now exh was good at calling them on it in a jolly way. They'd then be apologetic and "oh help yourself! Have some bread and butter or potato salad or whatever to fill you up." Unbeknownst to ex or me his sister and bil had been meekly accepting their portions for years! Then we had a visit coincide and bil witnessed exh reminding them to increase portions or make extra bits available and bil was amazed! Said to me in an aside "I've been starving for years when we've visited sil wouldn't let us say anything!" Knowing my in laws this would have saddened them so we just kept saying about us younger ones living more active lives than them and needing more calories and eventually they got the hint and started serving up bigger portions and making sure more snacks were available etc.

All that said - reading the op inc the bare cupboards comment reminded me we had a visit with them where the small portions returned and there was a feeling of tension we couldn't put our finger on - turned out they'd fallen for a scam and it had totally screwed their finances for about a year. (Or so they thought - lots of difficult conversations led to us discovering they weren't claiming things they could and were eg paying for prescriptions when they were eligible for free etc we were also able to help them do other things to save money that they were nervous of doing like changing their utility suppliers, going to a different supermarket and so on) They'd been embarrassed to say anything. When their DC found out (4 all working all in decent paid jobs and savvy enough to help them out of they'd only asked) they were sad and a bit angry they'd not said anything.

Long story short - are you ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN op that they're not struggling financially? Due to a change in circumstances? Overextended themselves somewhere? Trying to maintain an image they can no longer afford?

Although not being prepared in terms of towels etc too is odd. We seemed to get deluged with extra bedding, pillows, towels when visiting our lot. I once woke literally sweating in mum's house cos she'd decided I 'looked chilly' while sleeping and added 2 blankets to my quilt - it was August!

If nothing else querying this as a matter of concern could at least get them to admit if they are just being tight gits!

Mind you my grandparents were properly poor and still would have been utterly ashamed not to feed visiting guests until bursting! Mums the same now. But I've a feeling that's regional/cultural. Scots Irish Catholic families used to going to each other's houses every 5 minutes and if you're the visitor being positively plied with drinks, snacks, full 3 course meals! Even if you'd popped round just after Christmas or Easter dinner! I don't think I ever escaped a visit to either gran without having at least 3 cuppas, a sandwich and 2 cakes!

"always a pan of soup on the stove and a cake on the table" same here - same background? My mum still always has a CAULDRON of soup on the go at all times and there's only her and dad at home and dad barely eats now (not well).

"cut and come again cake" omg not heard of that phrase since my lovely mum's mum passed

Dd is very slim but not unhealthily so, and has never had a big appetite - it worries mum no end "that child doesn't eat enough to fill a stick insect!" 😂 but then she'll say that after she's fed her a sandwich, packet of crisps, yogurt and an apple and can of juice - BETWEEN mealtimes (dd then gets home and doesn't need dinner!)

"My granny is the opposite, you're force fed from the minute you walk in the door." 😂😂 that's how mine were - hadn't even got coat off before a cuppa was shoved in your hand and the biscuit tin presented! Geez let me get a seat first!

So I'd argue the perception older generations didn't snack is false. My parents are in their 70's, my grandparents if they were still around would be in their 90's and my great gran who was alive until I was 10 who'd be 120 now, the first thing she said to her daughter when guests arrived was 'where's the tea and cakes? we must have tea and cakes' admittedly probably as much so she could partake she had quite a sweet tooth. 😉

All 4 could cook and bake well and did so without measuring devices of any kind, no scales or anything I can't even make decent scones that rise with a recipe book, YouTube video, measuring spoons and scales and the best ingredients! 🙄

We surprised my gran once and she was 😱 I've nothing in! - within 5 mins tea poured, batch of scones in the oven, soup started and tatties being peeled, within half an hour we'd had soup, sausages mash and neeps, scones and homemade jam for pudding! For 7!

I once asked mum how she managed to stay slim when living at home with gran baking and doing fry ups and soup (with large crusty rolls and thick spreads of butter) on the go all the time - she reminded me she had a father and 3 brothers who usually got to it before she and the sisters!

To be fair visiting us ex mil did have a quiet word with me about not piling fil's plate so much. He was clearing his plate as a good manners thing but as it was too much for him it was making him have a dodgy tummy but he was too embarrassed to say anything. I took it on board but also made sure he knew he could get some toast or fruit or another snack if he was hungry later. He never did.

"playing Fawlty Towers." 😂😂stealing that!

All the mention of ungenerous but wealthy folk reminds me of my granpas favourite sayings:

"There's nae wallet in a shroud"

"The rich are rich because they're loathe to spend it!" Borne out by several studies in recent years too.

Actually given they're "not thin" as pp said they've maybe been told to cut down (recent diagnosis of diabetes or heart disease?) and fil isn't sticking to it so mil's cleared the decks to remove temptation? Still no excuse but perhaps an explanation?

That's a really interesting article MissConductUS (loving your posts) I've saved the link for other threads. Applies to so many situations.

"And mine is always even smaller than DH's" ahhh you must be new here, this is the "penis portion hypothesis"

Is dh their only child?

BunnyCarr · 12/08/2018 03:14

Placemarking.

Kokeshi123 · 12/08/2018 03:31

Where we come from rolls are in packs off 3 - where are the other 3?

FIL is probably scoffing it at top speed while hiding in the broom cupboard.

SummersB · 12/08/2018 04:56

I agree that it seems to be more than just tight, like some weird form of control. Which is probably why your DH doesn’t seem to be able to confront this head on, like it would normally happen in most families. A lifetime of conditioning!

RebootYourEngine · 12/08/2018 05:23

Are they secretly poor or just right?

Redteapot67 · 12/08/2018 05:30

Actually I’m wondering if you guys (op and family) are maybe a bit overweight and they are trying to put you on a diet ?!

nzeire · 12/08/2018 05:46

We travelled from Nz to uk for Xmas... arrived exhausted late at night, delayed flight, made our own beds up and then had to rummage through cupboards to find something to eat... mil came in after her 8 hour fancy lunch, and said I think there’s some chicken in there... it was days old. I went for a shop the next day. Not even milk for coffee. She comes out here for a month, eats like a Queen, doesn’t lift a finger or spend a cent. Fecking disgrace. Cannot stand meanness.

On a nicer note, went to sils for a few days and she was insanely generous, rooms made up beautifully, she asked in advance what everyone like to drink, eat, snack... I sent them a beautiful THANKYOU gift. Didn’t send mil one

Suresurelah · 12/08/2018 06:05

Wow!

Please insist that you eat out and tell them why. Do you have a car? If you do l would be driving it to the nearest shops and buy snacks food etc......then keep it locked up in the car Grin

OliviaStabler · 12/08/2018 06:08

Sounds like they always gorge themselves when eating out or staying with others but eat like misers at home. Baffling behaviour.

Shampooeeee · 12/08/2018 06:09

This thread is shocking for me. I’m a feeder and I come from a long line of feeders. Meals are always overcatered, the fridge and cupboards are always well stocked and extra guests can be accommodated at a moment’s notice. Ex in laws were the same. Never a problem to drop in or bring friends to their house. My MIL needs more planning time and meals are much more fixed but she always feeds us lots of delicious food.

OP’s inlaws clearly don’t eat like birds as they eat well at her house and FIL is scoffing secret snacks.

If they have recently moved to a remote house in the country, it’s unlikely that they are going senile.

They are just mean. Or perhaps they enjoy the control.

PollyFlinderz · 12/08/2018 06:26

Graphista, I’m wondering how many people will read your post and know their granny and yours were peas in a pod.

I can also identify with there always being a pan of soup on the go.

In fact it’s the way I still run my kitchen. I love it when my now adult children pop in saying oh I just thought I’d come and see whats on the go in the kitchen. And I hope my many grandchildren look back on my kitchen the same way so many posters here can look back on their Grans kitchen.

BitOutOfPractice · 12/08/2018 06:32

I want cheese on toast. Now.

MisstoMrs · 12/08/2018 06:38

My in laws did this on a weeks holiday with us:
our nights for dinner (5) 3 courses with two - three bottles of wine, most of which was drunk by them;
their nights (2): one course, one bottle of wine (that we bought).
Hmm

IggyAce · 12/08/2018 06:49

Wondering if op and her family got cheese on toast or if fil had already snaffled it in the broom cupboard.

PamsterWheel · 12/08/2018 07:09

What @rainbowstardrops said. These people are not strangers, your husband should step up to the plate (!) and say that you all have bigger appetites than they do. Then buy more food. Cook for them. If they won't have that buy soup and have that as a starter. Have bread with your meal. Have fruit and cheese after your one scoop. It's not difficult. Yes it's 'outrageous' but just get on with it.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 12/08/2018 07:18

I think op is in a sated state after feasting on long pork

Long, free-range, cheese-fed pork Grin

SchadenfreudePersonified · 12/08/2018 07:20

Plate up the meals, don’t put extra on the table. Play the miserable buggers at their own game.

This ^