We've just had a plastic lawn put in. AMA

[Imdunfer]

As title.

If you're going to raise climate issues please make sure you have your facts right before you post. There is a lot of incorrect PR and social media comment about plastic turf going around at the moment.

I really appreciate your kind suggestion, Bathers - except a neighbour told me the same and you can imagine thrilled I was when it worked for the first couple of days

Only then it suddenly stopped working ... personally I reckon some of them found their way back and warned the rest!!

No I really don't think it will. It is made of plastic. Plastic is made of oil. Oil and anything made from it is a valuable power source. Incinerator power plants are increasingly available and are cost effective. A large piece of plastic like a lawn will be valuable fuel in future, it already is.

Oh sod it I've just told the OH to do it 😂

Greenpeace don’t agree www.greenpeace.org.uk/news/incineration-burning-plastic-crisis/

No, it’s not. It worked properly well when installed but has now has accumulated so much crap from the environment, and the literal crap from the dogs, that it no longer functions as it should. I understand this is a common issue with plastic grass over time.

That's now not in 20 years. There are 40 incinerator power plants in the pipeline and huge amounts of money being invested in carbon capture.

Have you read the article?

Is this the kind of sharp analysis you are bringing to the table in general?

I don't have dogs, my cat doesn't crap on the lawn, there is no leaf fall in my garden, there is no reason whatsoever why my lawn would degrade in that way.

If they genuinely have the right aggregate base and membrane and it won't pressure wash clean, then they've either got too much organic stuff in the area falling into it and rotting or they've done a dreadful job looking after it and it needs taking up and a new lot putting in its place that they look after better.

I am being messaged by people with installations up to 12 years old who are having no problems at all with them and say they have done little maintenance in the meantime. Due to the hostility on this thread those people don't want to post.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wxgje5pwo

Go right ahead, Imdunfer ... you may well have a less truculent strain of ant than ours

Why the fuck did you do that?

I'm sorry PM, I don't understand your question could you make your point more clearly?

That is NOW. Have you not heard of carbon capture?

I'm vaguely aware of it, but I don't think it is what you think it is. The carbon captured isn't used as energy. It's stored underground. I've not looked into it a great deal, but on the surface, it sounds like a terrible idea.

By and large I’d suggest it’s better not to have to capture the carbon - by, say, NOT having a plastic lawn that needs disposing of at some point in the future.

This isn’t a question. It’s a scream into the void… I don’t like my nature pretty. It doesn’t have to be neat. I like it thriving and healthy and alive. The idea of plastic grass is just so precious and vulgar - what your eye sees, is more important than creating a healthy habitat for plant and insect life.

You could have grown a moss lawn in a dark garden with poor light. But sure. Fake grass. So classy.

There are many words which might have educated me and caused me to think, but "classy" is not one of them.

I've never been a snob, myself.

You thought I thought carbon was the fuel?

OK, that's the end of that discussion then.

No, the cheap short stuff is actually less work. A good leaf blower usually gets 90%.

The more ‘grass like’ the worse it is imo

Absolutely vile.

Obviously you are not bothered about destroying eco-systems, the impact on wildlife, etc.

When you say a fortune can you give an idea? My garden is also wrecked with them 😩

Damn it. Persistent little buggers.

You could have grown a moss lawn in a dark garden with poor light. But sure. Fake grass.

50% was a moss lawn. It looked absolutely dreadful in a small space, a real mess.

No, I thought it was stored underground, as I said. You're the one who thinks your plastic lawn will be used as fuel, not me.

It is polluting the environment now, and when it is burned or tossed into a landfill, it will pollute the environment even more.

Did you check all your family members are not sensitive to it first? They’re prone to causing static build up and for some people cause a shock when you walk on it (me included, annoyingly )