I’ve lost 7 stone on Mounjaro and plan to be on it for life. AMA

[LifeOfAShowGirl]

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I’m on about 1400-1700 a day (averaging over the last year). I don’t have a PT, nor do I have any ambitions of training for a marathon. I am not trying to build muscle at the moment. I’m trying to lose weight so that I’m not obese and at risk of dying before I hit 30.

That will tone your facial muscles!!!!

Sorry, who's training for a marathon?

I understand entirely that losing the weight is the priority when you’re obese. I’m just making the point that you’re going to need strong muscles and bones when you’re 50. My concern is that WL drugs ruin people’s relationship with healthy eating.

I have a 51 yo friend who’s lost 3 st on Mounjaro. She only eats one doughnut a day instead of the five she used to because she’s less hungry. Her skin is hanging off her because there’s no muscle underneath. She does no exercise because she’s never got into the habit when she was larger and now thinks she doesn’t have to, thanks to this wonder drug. I suspect she’ll be the first in our friendship group to fall and break a hip.

Im not anti-WL drugs per se. The research about the anti-inflammatory benefits of microdosing is interesting. But I think they’re dangerous if people rely solely on them and don’t learn about healthy lifestyle choices going forward.

Then your friend is a bloody idiot. Plain and simple. I’m eating 100g of protein, 5-10 portions of fruit and veg. Trying to go no UPF (as I said up thread)

I don't really understand why you think OP is training for a marathon on one doughnut a day and nothing else 😂

I didn’t say that. Try reading it again.

But what you do appear to be saying is that all fat people are the same and we want to lose weight while eating donuts. Despite me saying multiple times on this thread, my eating habits have improved

That’s not what I’m saying. You’re clearly making sensible choices about exercising and eating well. Good on you! I was talking about the fact that many other people (including my idiot friend) aren’t being so sensible.

Do you not think that there’s a lack of joined up thinking in the way these drugs are being promoted? That people are encouraged to take them to lose weight but not educated about how proper nutrition is needed to be fit and healthy?

@AllTheChatsAboutTea but think of the joy you'll get when we're all hobbling around on our broken bodies moaning, oh why oh why didn't we think of nutrition and exercise? Or just possibly as my body isn't screaming for food I have more head space to create healthy meals? I'm less likely to snack as the siren call of another biscuit isn't filling my head? I'm lighter on my feet so moving more? Or maybe I'm living on doughnuts and fries and only heaving myself up from the imprint of my arse on the sofa for the Deliveroo order? What do you think is more likely?

I think that the people taking them are adults and have a responsibility to educate themselves.

No. You go and read the OP's posts, because none of what you have said applies to her, as you would know if you had. She's said repeatedly that she's eating healthily and exercising regularly and yet you've come out with a load of patronising lecturing guff based on your endurance fitness goals and your alleged friend who you say hasn't changed her eating habits on WLIs, both of which are totally irrelevant to this thread. Losing muscle mass along with fat is a risk whether you use WLIs or food old fashioned dieting, and the advice - which all fat people are given when they seek help to lose weight regardless of how they do it - is to prioritise protein, fruit and veg, wholegrain healthy carbs and healthy fats, minimise sugar, and do regular strength training. It's not to train for a marathon or compete in weightlifting competitions, neither of which are goals that the majority of people looking to get fit have and both of which require specific nutrition regimes which are not the same as general fitness.

sorry if you’ve already answered this, but do you plan on having kids, pregnancy, breastfeeding? If so, do you worry about how all this will impact your weight and mental health if you are unable to take the weight loss injections?

I’d love to have children one day. I know that losing weight and being healthy is the biggest factor in being able to do that. I would ideally breastfeed for 6 months to a year and then go back on, if needed. But that’s a long way off for me yet.

You’re spectacularly missing my point but I really don’t want to squabble with you.

I thought AMA meant just that. I was asking OP if she thought many people on WLD were missing an important part of their understanding around healthy eating and fitness. I wasn’t criticising her or her achievements and apologise to her if it came across that way.

Anyway, I’m off to have another 🍩 !

Well, all I can say is that it doesn't look as if I am the only one who's missing it. But it's difficult to get nuance online and probably just one of those things. Enjoy your doughnut!

Another assumption about fat people...uneducated as well as lazy and greedy.

Most people lwho need to lose weight understand about how to eat well. The problem is our bodies scream for food. Think of normal hunger as a rain shower, that's what I have on mj. I'm hungry, it's uncomfortable but I cope. Before mj it was like a red warning storm and it was pretty much constant. Mj allows me the head space to actually eat well. To suggest that putting on weight is down to ignorance completely misses the point and it is insulting.

I don’t think anyone is missing your point. They are simply not accepting it. Your base assumption is a large amount of fat people are uneducated about food and nutrition , which in itself is deeply offensive. All because you’ve apparently got a friend who used to eat 5 donuts a day and now only eats one and has lost all her muscle.

sure. Sure thing. We believe you.

The op is smart, she’s clapped back at you that it is up to thr individual to educate themselves, and every pharmacy when they prescribe supply nutritional information, and it is hard to avoid everywhere else. Most people know. Yes some people Are uneducated, but they come in all shapes and sizes and it is not exclusive to fat people.

People are not fat as they are uneducated. Your base assumption is both deeply flawed and offensive.

Hear hear!

This is exactly how I’d describe it. Mounjaro has changed that

You sound increasingly more desperate to discredit the OP everytime you post. A general chat about hows life, how’s the family, oh and my daughter is on Mounjaro because she doesn’t want heart disease to factor in her life due to obesity, and the Dr replying - I’m all for it (plus a bit more of general commenting) is not betraying any confidence.

In fact when I see my dr this afternoon he’ll ask about my son who’s also a patient of his, he’ll ask how he’s doing and I’ll explain what he’s up to and he’ll comment on it in a very general way and say something like, I’m really pleased he’s doing so well, he’s come very far indeed and it sounds as if what he’s doing is very good for him.

No confidences betrayed. No poor bad practice. End of.

So really, unless you’ve posted some links on the next few pages of the thread and I’ve not reached them yet - you haven’t posted any because you can’t back up what you’ve said.

I’ve lost a similar amount and had a two month break. Which has told me I cannot do this alone. The difference mentally and physically when on it is phenomenal. It isn’t simply learning better eating habits. I have learned them but without the medication, I can’t apply them. It isn’t as simple as using willpower or learning how much I need to eat. When I am taking it, I assume my body becomes more like those who can eat sensible amounts and therefore not put on weight. I’ve been overweight my entire life - I just do not seem to have the switch which stops eating too much and now I know what it does feel like to have this mental switch turned off, I feel less shame about my inability to do it alone.