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A Muslim Female in UK Questiontime

242 replies

WhoevenamIinlife · 22/02/2025 23:11

To help those who need educating. Fire away.

OP posts:
WhoevenamIinlife · 23/02/2025 11:46

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 10:45

The issue is that most people will look at you and think you represent Islam. You dont. You represent culture your parents culture with a tiny dash of Islam. Just like modern day Christians. Barely know anything and don't practice the fundamentals.

As a practicing Muslim woman I am very fed up of cultural people "representing" me. They neednto make it clear I follow.... Pakistani culture, bengali culture etc etc. As a mixed Arab Muslim none of the things portrayed by muslims in the media is Islam. People need to preface before speaking "this is from a such and such cultural background". It confuses non Muslims.

I agree with you I don't represent Islam as it should be - and if you read my updates I make it clear this thread was a reactive thread regarding another threads conversation and I make it clear where my knowledge falls short. But I'm open to others such as yourself responding with the appropriate knowledge. Your responses to other are reeducating me again and I take your advise on board.

OP posts:
MuslimMumInDespair · 23/02/2025 13:59

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 10:45

The issue is that most people will look at you and think you represent Islam. You dont. You represent culture your parents culture with a tiny dash of Islam. Just like modern day Christians. Barely know anything and don't practice the fundamentals.

As a practicing Muslim woman I am very fed up of cultural people "representing" me. They neednto make it clear I follow.... Pakistani culture, bengali culture etc etc. As a mixed Arab Muslim none of the things portrayed by muslims in the media is Islam. People need to preface before speaking "this is from a such and such cultural background". It confuses non Muslims.

I find your post very condescending and actually quite cruel. OP has started numerous times that she is a practicing Muslim. None of us are in a position to judge her level of iman or tell her that she doesn't represent Islam. Humility is regarded highly in islamic demeanor and ikhlaq and perhaps you should take note.

It seems you have hang ups around South Asian Muslims (which I have encountered from many Arabs IRL). Perhaps some kind of superiority complex? Also, she never claimed to be an expert. Just a Muslim woman in the UK who at no point said that she represents all Muslim women in the UK. We're all on a journey and OP shared her own lived experience. Thanks for sharing your knowledgeable replies but please don't criticise OP for talking about what her life is like. Yes, she is coming from the perspective of her cultural heritage but she is also a practicing Muslim - something that is her own private journey and not one that other Muslims should be criticising. We're all unique individuals and can offer our own perspective. You don't have a right to tell her that she doesn't represent Islam.

IridiumSky · 23/02/2025 14:07

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 10:50

Islam - Sincere submission in peace to the 1 true God.
Which is why we say all the prophets of God are Muslim. As they submitted themselves to Allah/God whole heartedly with peace.

Practicing Muslim here.

Edited

As during the history of humanity in excess of one thousand Gods have been described, how can you be sure that yours is the ‘one true God’?

From statistical analysis alone, it’s unlikely.

Serious question, which applies to all current religions.

WhoevenamIinlife · 23/02/2025 14:18

ShamrockShenanigans · 23/02/2025 10:39

Your answer has confused me a bit.

I'm not particularly invested btw, just joining in the spirit of the thread you chose to start. But I asked...

How come you have a child with a man you're not married to?

You replied

Im Islamically married but in the eyes of the law I'm living in sin.

In the eyes of which law?

There was a tinge of sarcasm in my answer as you went through my previous threads to bring onto this thread, hence the investment comment.

I am islamically married but not I have not registered my marriage under UK law. Hope that makes sense.

OP posts:
ShamrockShenanigans · 23/02/2025 14:25

WhoevenamIinlife · 23/02/2025 14:18

There was a tinge of sarcasm in my answer as you went through my previous threads to bring onto this thread, hence the investment comment.

I am islamically married but not I have not registered my marriage under UK law. Hope that makes sense.

There was a tinge of sarcasm in my answer as you went through my previous threads to bring onto this thread, hence the investment comment.

What on earth are you talking about?

You literally started a thread yesterday that I was on, stating that your partner had moved in and you'd lost your child benefit.

I have a poor menopausal memory at the moment, but even I can remember what you posted yesterday! 🤦‍♀️

WhoevenamIinlife · 23/02/2025 14:26

ShamrockShenanigans · 23/02/2025 14:25

There was a tinge of sarcasm in my answer as you went through my previous threads to bring onto this thread, hence the investment comment.

What on earth are you talking about?

You literally started a thread yesterday that I was on, stating that your partner had moved in and you'd lost your child benefit.

I have a poor menopausal memory at the moment, but even I can remember what you posted yesterday! 🤦‍♀️

Fair. Apologies if I misunderstood your intention for posting what you did. Must be getting paranoid with all the posts not sure what questions are genuine etc But hopefully I've answered your question.

OP posts:
Humdingerydoo · 23/02/2025 16:04

tellmesomethingtrue · 23/02/2025 02:49

I just keep clean because it's nice to be clean. I find it strange that people need a 'religion' to tell them to 'be good' and 'take a shower' and ' consider what you eat' and 'be kind to animals'
If you didn't have religion, would you not do all these things then?

Why do you not go around killing people? Why do you not park across someone's driveway on a daily basis and blocking their car in? Why do you not take things from shops without paying? Is it because it's the law or because you know right from wrong?

Just because a religion states the importance of cleanliness doesn't mean that's the only reason its followers value cleanliness. Just because a religion says to 'be good' doesn't mean the only reason they're good is because their religion tells them to.

Echobowels · 23/02/2025 17:55

RainingRoses · 23/02/2025 00:39

It’s really sad. I’m Muslim and I live in a very Jewish area. Some of my neighbours have actively blanked us since they found out and are hostile to our children. I was always raised to treat Jews as brothers and sisters and always loved that we have so many similarities but instead we’re now at the point of having to sell up and move because I can’t live like this for the next 50 years.

Sending you love and to all my other Jewish and Muslim sisters who live in fear and anxiety.

And I send the same love back to you. I'm so sorry you have experienced this from your neighbours. X

AmadeustheAlpaca · 23/02/2025 18:29

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 10:50

Islam - Sincere submission in peace to the 1 true God.
Which is why we say all the prophets of God are Muslim. As they submitted themselves to Allah/God whole heartedly with peace.

Practicing Muslim here.

Edited

Serious question here for Islamic posters. How do Muslims view Jesus Christ? I have read that he is regarded as a prophet in Islam and I wondered how this belief developed differently from the Christian viewpoint that he is the Son of God. Is Jesus mentioned in the Qu'ran or what historical texts do you use as a background to your belief that he was a prophet.

WhoevenamIinlife · 23/02/2025 18:35

AmadeustheAlpaca · 23/02/2025 18:29

Serious question here for Islamic posters. How do Muslims view Jesus Christ? I have read that he is regarded as a prophet in Islam and I wondered how this belief developed differently from the Christian viewpoint that he is the Son of God. Is Jesus mentioned in the Qu'ran or what historical texts do you use as a background to your belief that he was a prophet.

Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet and not the son of God.

Surah Maryam in the Quran supports this.

OP posts:
RainingRoses · 23/02/2025 19:02

AmadeustheAlpaca · 23/02/2025 18:29

Serious question here for Islamic posters. How do Muslims view Jesus Christ? I have read that he is regarded as a prophet in Islam and I wondered how this belief developed differently from the Christian viewpoint that he is the Son of God. Is Jesus mentioned in the Qu'ran or what historical texts do you use as a background to your belief that he was a prophet.

It’s worth adding to the OP’s post that whilst Muslim don’t believe he was the son of God, we believe that he was born from the Virgin Mary and that he is the Messiah. He is therefore a very important prophet in Islam.

AmadeustheAlpaca · 23/02/2025 19:20

RainingRoses · 23/02/2025 19:02

It’s worth adding to the OP’s post that whilst Muslim don’t believe he was the son of God, we believe that he was born from the Virgin Mary and that he is the Messiah. He is therefore a very important prophet in Islam.

Thank to posters for your answers, will have a look at Surah Maryam. Are there other writers from the period in history when the Qu'ran became a holy book who write about Christ? I know that Jesus is mentioned in writings by Josephus in the days of early Christianity but I'm interested to know if there are any equivalent Muslim authors who discuss his status as a prophet in other writings. Is his status as Messiah similar to Christian ideas of a Messiah?

rivertimez · 23/02/2025 19:42

the replies to the OP are strangely aggressive. Would a jewish poster get the same hostility?

RainingRoses · 23/02/2025 19:46

AmadeustheAlpaca · 23/02/2025 19:20

Thank to posters for your answers, will have a look at Surah Maryam. Are there other writers from the period in history when the Qu'ran became a holy book who write about Christ? I know that Jesus is mentioned in writings by Josephus in the days of early Christianity but I'm interested to know if there are any equivalent Muslim authors who discuss his status as a prophet in other writings. Is his status as Messiah similar to Christian ideas of a Messiah?

I can’t comment on most of what you’ve written and I also don’t know that much about Christian beliefs but the core belief around Jesus is that he was not crucified but instead ascended to heaven and he will return and defeat Dajjal (the Antichrist). So I think there are similarities.

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 19:52

For those who need educating? That's not off to a very good start, is it? Anyway, I'll read the thread and see if there's anything you can educate me on that interests me and that hasn't already been covered.

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 19:56

IridiumSky · 23/02/2025 14:07

As during the history of humanity in excess of one thousand Gods have been described, how can you be sure that yours is the ‘one true God’?

From statistical analysis alone, it’s unlikely.

Serious question, which applies to all current religions.

Edited

There is no God but Allah and only he deserves all praise and worship.

The Gid that createe the universe, heacen and Hell, man kind, angels and Jinn. The Gif of Prophet Adam AS the first Human and his partner Hawa, thr God of Ibraheem, Musa and all the prophets of the Monotheistic Feith. We do not idol worship man or statue or the creation of God.
I uope this answers your questions

Monotheism the worship of 1 God Allah, crrator of everything. Sustainer, the one who gives life and takes it.

Humdingerydoo · 23/02/2025 19:57

rivertimez · 23/02/2025 19:42

the replies to the OP are strangely aggressive. Would a jewish poster get the same hostility?

I can assure you that we would, and very much have when there have been similar threads about Judaism. MN loves to hate and deride all religions

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 20:08

@AmadeustheAlpaca Jesus is mentioned in the Quran. There is a chapter called Mariam. Describing the miracles the gestation and birth of Jesus, peace be upon him.
In Islam we believe Jesus to be the messiah the anointed one. Apart from Adam AS and Hawa, his creation was miracles and without a male. He spoke in infancy and was beatiwed many gifts. He carried out his miracles by the permission of Allah/God. Jesus bowed in prostation and prayer as any other Muslim and Prophet and believer forehead on the ground.

We do not believe he was crucified but instead he was elevated to the heavens and someone of likeness was crucified. And that near the end of days Jesus will return to earth his hands on the shoulders of angels will decend upon the white minirates in Syria (wonder why Syria is a hotspot all eyes on Syria) He will become the true king on earth and will be the one to kill the Antichrist. He will unite the Muslims and it is said he will alleviate their suffering. There will be peace upon earth for a time. Jesus like all humans will live his life and pass away as a any human does.

The story is very detailed of how Mariam came to have prophet Jesus AS, very special prophet in Islam. We learn alot about her childhood and the favors God bestowed upon her, her rightous family and parents.

Beautiful chapter/Surah in the Quran.

IridiumSky · 23/02/2025 20:09

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 19:56

There is no God but Allah and only he deserves all praise and worship.

The Gid that createe the universe, heacen and Hell, man kind, angels and Jinn. The Gif of Prophet Adam AS the first Human and his partner Hawa, thr God of Ibraheem, Musa and all the prophets of the Monotheistic Feith. We do not idol worship man or statue or the creation of God.
I uope this answers your questions

Monotheism the worship of 1 God Allah, crrator of everything. Sustainer, the one who gives life and takes it.

Thank you for your response, but no, that does not answer the question at all.

I understand that is what you believe, and everyone is entitled to their beliefs (so long as they don’t harm others, or call for harm to others) but the question is why do you believe it? On what evidence do you base your beliefs?

Every religion both now, and in history, has said much that same thing as you say about ‘Allah’. If hundreds of religions have stated that there is only one (i.e. their) God they can’t, by definition, all be right. (But they can all be wrong! 🙂)

BaMamma · 23/02/2025 20:12

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 20:08

@AmadeustheAlpaca Jesus is mentioned in the Quran. There is a chapter called Mariam. Describing the miracles the gestation and birth of Jesus, peace be upon him.
In Islam we believe Jesus to be the messiah the anointed one. Apart from Adam AS and Hawa, his creation was miracles and without a male. He spoke in infancy and was beatiwed many gifts. He carried out his miracles by the permission of Allah/God. Jesus bowed in prostation and prayer as any other Muslim and Prophet and believer forehead on the ground.

We do not believe he was crucified but instead he was elevated to the heavens and someone of likeness was crucified. And that near the end of days Jesus will return to earth his hands on the shoulders of angels will decend upon the white minirates in Syria (wonder why Syria is a hotspot all eyes on Syria) He will become the true king on earth and will be the one to kill the Antichrist. He will unite the Muslims and it is said he will alleviate their suffering. There will be peace upon earth for a time. Jesus like all humans will live his life and pass away as a any human does.

The story is very detailed of how Mariam came to have prophet Jesus AS, very special prophet in Islam. We learn alot about her childhood and the favors God bestowed upon her, her rightous family and parents.

Beautiful chapter/Surah in the Quran.

Jesus bowed in prostation and prayer as any other Muslim and Prophet and believer forehead on the ground.

No, he didn't. Jesus was Jewish, not Muslim, and existed several centuries before Mohammed ever dreamed of flying a donkey type creature.

ExcessiveNumberOfNinjas · 23/02/2025 20:15

RainingRoses · 23/02/2025 00:51

This has been done several times before. You will get many decent posters who ask legitimate questions but you will also find posters who ask questions designed to make Islam look like a hateful and backward religion. They’re the ones who conveniently forget that Christianity and Judaism have similar views on homosexuality.

That's very true, although currently Israel is the only Jewish state in the world and it is largely accepting and tolerant of LGB people, as are most 'western' and largely Christian countries. I'm sure there are homophobic Christians and Jews among more conservative branches of both religions, but in general they are not in the majority and the laws of those countries protect LGB people, irrespective of how any individuals may feel about it.

Whereas I can't think of any countries in the Islamic world where it's safe and legal to be out as a gay person, with the possible exception of Turkey, and in many of those countries, I am sure you are well aware, it's basically a death sentence.

There are many countries where it is a criminal act to practice homosexuality, and yes it's true that not all of them are Muslim majority countries, but by and large it's the exception to the rule if they are not. Whereas it's very much the exception to the rule that you can be openly gay and safe in a majority Muslim country. I don't think you need me to tell you that there is far less tolerance of practising homosexuals in the Islamic world than there is outside of it.

AmadeustheAlpaca · 23/02/2025 20:17

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 20:08

@AmadeustheAlpaca Jesus is mentioned in the Quran. There is a chapter called Mariam. Describing the miracles the gestation and birth of Jesus, peace be upon him.
In Islam we believe Jesus to be the messiah the anointed one. Apart from Adam AS and Hawa, his creation was miracles and without a male. He spoke in infancy and was beatiwed many gifts. He carried out his miracles by the permission of Allah/God. Jesus bowed in prostation and prayer as any other Muslim and Prophet and believer forehead on the ground.

We do not believe he was crucified but instead he was elevated to the heavens and someone of likeness was crucified. And that near the end of days Jesus will return to earth his hands on the shoulders of angels will decend upon the white minirates in Syria (wonder why Syria is a hotspot all eyes on Syria) He will become the true king on earth and will be the one to kill the Antichrist. He will unite the Muslims and it is said he will alleviate their suffering. There will be peace upon earth for a time. Jesus like all humans will live his life and pass away as a any human does.

The story is very detailed of how Mariam came to have prophet Jesus AS, very special prophet in Islam. We learn alot about her childhood and the favors God bestowed upon her, her rightous family and parents.

Beautiful chapter/Surah in the Quran.

Thanks for this, that's very helpful.

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 20:17

MuslimMumInDespair · 23/02/2025 13:59

I find your post very condescending and actually quite cruel. OP has started numerous times that she is a practicing Muslim. None of us are in a position to judge her level of iman or tell her that she doesn't represent Islam. Humility is regarded highly in islamic demeanor and ikhlaq and perhaps you should take note.

It seems you have hang ups around South Asian Muslims (which I have encountered from many Arabs IRL). Perhaps some kind of superiority complex? Also, she never claimed to be an expert. Just a Muslim woman in the UK who at no point said that she represents all Muslim women in the UK. We're all on a journey and OP shared her own lived experience. Thanks for sharing your knowledgeable replies but please don't criticise OP for talking about what her life is like. Yes, she is coming from the perspective of her cultural heritage but she is also a practicing Muslim - something that is her own private journey and not one that other Muslims should be criticising. We're all unique individuals and can offer our own perspective. You don't have a right to tell her that she doesn't represent Islam.

laugh my best friends are Asian, both Bengali and Pakistani. And my DH is Indian muslim. So you want to think I am racist still? Never assume anything.
I am very critical of my Arab community. But in the UK the majority is South Asian and there is very unfair representation of practicing Muslims and what cultural aspect are displayed are said to be Islam. That is what I am staying.

I grew up in a Bengali community and i experinced a lot of racisim. There are lovely Benglais but equally many who are racist. They won't return Salams, not see me as a sister in Islam. Shunned from Marriage proposals as I am not from "back home". I am white and I used to get complimented on my skin colour and I never knew how to respond. Your so fair and pale..... Huh huh thanks..... What?! Very bizzare but even amongst all that madness I met some, a few loveky sisters who till this day are my closeest companions those that put Islam and the principles before any culture.

MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 20:20

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MixedBananas · 23/02/2025 20:23

BaMamma · 23/02/2025 20:12

Jesus bowed in prostation and prayer as any other Muslim and Prophet and believer forehead on the ground.

No, he didn't. Jesus was Jewish, not Muslim, and existed several centuries before Mohammed ever dreamed of flying a donkey type creature.

All prophets bowed in prostration to pray to their creator and sustainer God. From Adam, peace be upon him until the last and final Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon them all.

You will insult me and my religion but I will not do as you and lower myself to that level. I have nothing to prove to you and I am not insecure as you very apparently are. I am firm in my faith.