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My DS wants to be a girl

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UndertheCedartree · 20/04/2024 23:29

Not a situation I imagined being in. But he has wanted to be a girl for 4 years now. He's 17 and autistic.

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UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 18:26

WasntExpectingSunshine · 21/04/2024 18:03

I’m a bit confused why you started an AMA then, as you now seem to be saying there’s not much to it. 🙃

I've just looked back and it's because I've brought my DC the same as you and you don't like not looking superior in having been so good at bringing yours up that they have never questioned their gender.

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PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 18:38

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Bumblebeeinatree · 21/04/2024 18:38

ExhaustedPigeon3 · 21/04/2024 16:27

Thank you.
As waiting lists for the Gender Clinic are so long she is under a private gender clinic who prescribe her with what is essentially hormone replacement. The same as she would receive under the NHS clinic. To receive these she had to have many sessions with a trained specialist plus reports from her GP to ensure this was the right track for her. I was concerned about her taking something which would change her body but , as I said, she was 18 and pays for them herself. She has also had other counselling. Our experience hasn’t been ‘oh you feel like you are a girl, yeah of course you can be a girl’ it’s been rollercoaster of emotions and discussion and exploration and acceptance of her and I absolutely see how much it has changed her outlook on life. She is much happier, her mental health is better, she, on the whole, is just accepted. She is just her, just as I am just me and you are you.

How does she/he afford to pay for this? Private health care is expensive and I would assume these drugs are too.

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 18:41

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I have no idea what 'hoping for some screen shots even means'!

At the end of the day I started a AMA for people to ask questions if they chose to. Noone is being forced to be on this thread if they don't find the answers interesting enough or whatever.

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PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 18:41

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 18:26

I've just looked back and it's because I've brought my DC the same as you and you don't like not looking superior in having been so good at bringing yours up that they have never questioned their gender.

Gender doesn’t actually exist. It’s made up. Kids who aren’t confused don’t even consider it.

ExhaustedPigeon3 · 21/04/2024 18:43

Bumblebeeinatree · 21/04/2024 18:38

How does she/he afford to pay for this? Private health care is expensive and I would assume these drugs are too.

She works.

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 18:44

PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 18:41

Gender doesn’t actually exist. It’s made up. Kids who aren’t confused don’t even consider it.

The point being I have brought my DC up in the way this poster says they have brought their child up in and the reason why they claim their child is not questioning their gender.

Gender does exist - it is a social construct.

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Sureaseggs44 · 21/04/2024 18:48

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 17:32

I will keep talking. And yes, we've had those discussions. It does seem quite common for autistic teens to experience this. His 2 female friends who were identifying as boys were autistic. I don't know what has happened with them. There was another girl we know who was autistic and began identifying as a boy who is happy to identify as a girl again now.

I suggest you watch two things the interview between Chloe Cole and Jordan Peterson and also visit the website of billboard Chris and listen to the statistics and his interviews with some autistic transitioners. Both explain a lot .

personally I would encourage him to be as individual as he wants as a young male but be careful about being too accepting in case he gets groomed on line . IMO .

Corksoles · 21/04/2024 18:49

Yes, a social invention. Like FatherChristmas and the tooth fairy. It's bullshit.

PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 18:51

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 18:44

The point being I have brought my DC up in the way this poster says they have brought their child up in and the reason why they claim their child is not questioning their gender.

Gender does exist - it is a social construct.

Its as real as unicorns.

Sureaseggs44 · 21/04/2024 18:52

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 18:44

The point being I have brought my DC up in the way this poster says they have brought their child up in and the reason why they claim their child is not questioning their gender.

Gender does exist - it is a social construct.

i think a person can be a feminine male or a masculine female and express themselves that way . Individualism should be encouraged anyway. But the reasons a young person may feel they want to change sex are normally much deeper . I would hate him to be led down the wrong path because perhaps he feels he does not fit in .

Ruelzdontapply · 21/04/2024 18:54

Dd17 with Asd and ADHD has been saying she wants to be a boy for the past few years. It all to do with not fitting in has a girl she believes her life would be better/worth living if she was a boy.
No matter how much I tell her she will never be a biological boy she don't care she just wants to live has a boy.

She has had therapy and the therapist said that it's really common for people with ASD to want to change sex.

Sunnnybunny72 · 21/04/2024 19:06

What does his dad think?

SmokeyWigwams · 21/04/2024 19:06

I understand you want to be supportive and always "have his back". But sometimes honesty is the more loving way forward, and actually helping people come to terms with reality and who they are is more helpful than just affirming their feelings. For decades this was the goal of therapy, to help align people's minds with the reality and not bolster their delusions. Affirmative care is a very recent phenomenon and I don't believe there's any evidence that it actually benefits anyone.

MrsBosomworth · 21/04/2024 19:06

WaitingForMojo · 21/04/2024 00:47

What did you hope to achieve by starting this thread on such a notoriously transphobic site?

What's your definition of transphobia?

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 19:07

Sureaseggs44 · 21/04/2024 18:48

I suggest you watch two things the interview between Chloe Cole and Jordan Peterson and also visit the website of billboard Chris and listen to the statistics and his interviews with some autistic transitioners. Both explain a lot .

personally I would encourage him to be as individual as he wants as a young male but be careful about being too accepting in case he gets groomed on line . IMO .

Thank you, I'll have a look.

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RaininSummer · 21/04/2024 19:08

Well I want to 26 and slim. Equally impossible.

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 19:09

Corksoles · 21/04/2024 18:49

Yes, a social invention. Like FatherChristmas and the tooth fairy. It's bullshit.

I agree, but society as a whole doesn't. Plenty of people don't think boys should have long hair or wear dresses.

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UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 19:10

PeaceOnThePorch · 21/04/2024 18:51

Its as real as unicorns.

Not really. Noone believes in unicorns. Plenty believe boys shouldn't have long hair or wear dresses.

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EnglishBluebell · 21/04/2024 19:11

This trend really needs to stop. These poor kids

Changingplace · 21/04/2024 19:12

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 19:09

I agree, but society as a whole doesn't. Plenty of people don't think boys should have long hair or wear dresses.

Neither having long hair or wearing a particular item of clothing determines a persons sex or gender though, does your DS think it does? Do you?

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 19:15

Sureaseggs44 · 21/04/2024 18:52

i think a person can be a feminine male or a masculine female and express themselves that way . Individualism should be encouraged anyway. But the reasons a young person may feel they want to change sex are normally much deeper . I would hate him to be led down the wrong path because perhaps he feels he does not fit in .

I don't know that he does feel he wants to change sex. Maybe he does or maybe he just would like to express himself in a more feminine way but for some reason feels he can't. He's not expressed any deep reasons to me. I would also. However, he does seem very settled and happy now. That wasn't necessarily the case some years ago. He has a few really nice friends that he really seems to fit in with.

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UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 19:17

Ruelzdontapply · 21/04/2024 18:54

Dd17 with Asd and ADHD has been saying she wants to be a boy for the past few years. It all to do with not fitting in has a girl she believes her life would be better/worth living if she was a boy.
No matter how much I tell her she will never be a biological boy she don't care she just wants to live has a boy.

She has had therapy and the therapist said that it's really common for people with ASD to want to change sex.

There definitely is a connection with ASD. I hope your DD can find some peace as herself.

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UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 19:17

Sunnnybunny72 · 21/04/2024 19:06

What does his dad think?

He knows nothing about it.

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Corksoles · 21/04/2024 19:18

UndertheCedartree · 21/04/2024 19:09

I agree, but society as a whole doesn't. Plenty of people don't think boys should have long hair or wear dresses.

Yes. But the correct response to society's prejudice is to fight it. For women to power lift, men to become nurses. Not for perfect healthy young people to turn on themselves. Reminds me of anorexia so much - the social pressure on women turned into self loathing and starvation.