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AMA

I dated a Non Binary person and it peaked me.

168 replies

EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 18:18

Thought it might make an interesting AMA?

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Healingfrommothernarc · 13/04/2024 20:16

Sorry hadn't read thread properly apologies

greyonwhitesky · 13/04/2024 20:23

EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 19:36

I've known around 20 people in the last decade that have classed themselves as NB. All of them have had several of these traits
Neuro diversity
Questioning sexuality
Trauma in past
Generally non conforming in other areas
Narcissistic

I can't say what makes anyone do anything from an outsiders point of view but all of the people I've known do this have not been happy people in a stable place in life.

This exactly fits with the Welsh school survey. The kids identifying as neither male nor female had the worst scores on absolutely all domains. Poorest mental health, lowest happiness, worst health risking behaviours.

I actually feel a bit sorry for your Ex. In previous decades she could have just been a butch lesbian and got on with that. Now she’s had her head fucked with all this non-binary shit that she can never achieve, as she is actually a woman. If I thought I had to be something I could never actually be, I’d be pretty fucked up too.

TinselAngel · 13/04/2024 20:27

Hi OP. If you'd like to write something for the Trans Widows Voices website, drop me a DM.

BingoMarieHeeler · 13/04/2024 20:27

TheHeadOfTheHouse · 13/04/2024 18:20

I think peaked means interest

Nope that’s pique.

valensiwalensi · 13/04/2024 20:28

what a coincidence. Yet another thread about non binary in one evening: what are the chances!

EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 20:29

greyonwhitesky · 13/04/2024 20:23

This exactly fits with the Welsh school survey. The kids identifying as neither male nor female had the worst scores on absolutely all domains. Poorest mental health, lowest happiness, worst health risking behaviours.

I actually feel a bit sorry for your Ex. In previous decades she could have just been a butch lesbian and got on with that. Now she’s had her head fucked with all this non-binary shit that she can never achieve, as she is actually a woman. If I thought I had to be something I could never actually be, I’d be pretty fucked up too.

I agree.

Like I said, I have no idea how she is now but in the last months of our relationship she had become obsessed with the idea of a double mascectomy :(

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EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 20:30

valensiwalensi · 13/04/2024 20:28

what a coincidence. Yet another thread about non binary in one evening: what are the chances!

Please feel free to ask MNHQ to check I'm not the same poster as the other OP.

I admit I posted because of the other AMA, but I have no connection to that poster.

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GrumpyPanda · 13/04/2024 20:54

WittiestUsernameEver · 13/04/2024 18:48

Someone Usually a woman who doesn't think she's a woman OR a man.

Seems unusual for a man to be NB, they are more likely to pretend they're women.

There's plenty of NB men around as well. All those that win the NB category at the Boston Marathon for one (with the added benefit that what counts for qualifying are the minimum female times.) And an NB Swiss bloke called Kim de l'Horizon won an important German literature prize last year with a book that judging by excerpts I saw would probably have been disqualified for homophobia in any other author.

IDontHateRainbows · 13/04/2024 20:57

AtomicBlondeRose · 13/04/2024 18:35

DINK has been around since the 90s

Along with PILOK (.poor income loads of kids)

DogsAkimbo · 13/04/2024 21:07

Sunquest · 13/04/2024 18:39

I try to avoid all the anti trans stuff on MN. If I knew what peaked meant I would have hidden this thread too.

Now you know, no harm done. Sounds like OPs girlfriend was anti-lesbian though but maybe that’s no issue.

You might fancy a read of the Cass Report if you’re feeling like having a rounded view might be helpful at any point. Even if it’s just for when kids are involved.

DogsAkimbo · 13/04/2024 21:08

Also saying the word ‘peaked’ is ‘niche’ is ‘peak Mumsnet’ Grin

EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 21:11

DogsAkimbo · 13/04/2024 21:07

Now you know, no harm done. Sounds like OPs girlfriend was anti-lesbian though but maybe that’s no issue.

You might fancy a read of the Cass Report if you’re feeling like having a rounded view might be helpful at any point. Even if it’s just for when kids are involved.

I wonder what that poster would think of someone telling a woman who's just had oral sex with another woman, that it's not gay sex?

Isn't that homophobic?

To tell a women actively engaging in sexual contact with a vagina that it isn't lesbian sex?

Seems very homophobic to me.

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DogsAkimbo · 13/04/2024 21:12

EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 21:11

I wonder what that poster would think of someone telling a woman who's just had oral sex with another woman, that it's not gay sex?

Isn't that homophobic?

To tell a women actively engaging in sexual contact with a vagina that it isn't lesbian sex?

Seems very homophobic to me.

Yep. And Olympic level gaslighting!

Fizbosshoes · 13/04/2024 21:14

GrumpyPanda · 13/04/2024 20:54

There's plenty of NB men around as well. All those that win the NB category at the Boston Marathon for one (with the added benefit that what counts for qualifying are the minimum female times.) And an NB Swiss bloke called Kim de l'Horizon won an important German literature prize last year with a book that judging by excerpts I saw would probably have been disqualified for homophobia in any other author.

Sam Smith is non binary and wants to be referred to as they.

I was a bit Hmm in a half marathon that I entered last year had a non binary category. The "winner" did a pretty average time for a non vet man which they clearly were and was slower than mens/women's top 3 , mens vets 40, 50, 60 and 70 and women's vets 35, 45 and 55. This year there was only 1 NB entrant so they basically got a prize for turning up!

FinallyPregnant23 · 13/04/2024 21:19

How did she want you to label your relationship if you weren’t allowed to call it a lesbian one? How did she want you to identify in your sexuality? Did she want you to say you were a straight couple?

Soubriquet · 13/04/2024 21:24

CremeEggThief · 13/04/2024 18:29

I'll tell you what I think.
I'm sick of people using niche terms on this site that most people in real life have never even heard of!

We've had DINK and now peaking.🙄
You people should learn to use language in your posts that the majority use and understand.

It’s obvious to what they are and they are quite common online. Not OP’a fault you don’t know the slang

LibbyL92 · 13/04/2024 21:32

EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 18:23

Being told I was not allowed to identify as a lesbian, even though we were both women, as that was triggering for her.

It was my first lesbian relationship, something I'd wanted since my teenage years and I was not allowed to call myself a lesbian or say she was my girlfriend etc

Did you or do you feel it’s very one sided of one persons feelings/views.

for example you not being allowed to identify being a lesbian because it was triggering for her?

did you feel it was all down to her feelings and what she wanted/was comfortable with rather than what you were?

EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 21:32

FinallyPregnant23 · 13/04/2024 21:19

How did she want you to label your relationship if you weren’t allowed to call it a lesbian one? How did she want you to identify in your sexuality? Did she want you to say you were a straight couple?

Partner and queer.

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MrsKeats · 13/04/2024 21:42

TheHeadOfTheHouse · 13/04/2024 18:20

I think peaked means interest

That's piqued.

RhubarbAndFlustered · 13/04/2024 21:52

CremeEggThief · 13/04/2024 18:29

I'll tell you what I think.
I'm sick of people using niche terms on this site that most people in real life have never even heard of!

We've had DINK and now peaking.🙄
You people should learn to use language in your posts that the majority use and understand.

Sorry but that's pretty funny. I studied sociology way back in 1998 and one of the terms the professor introduced us to was DINK and DINKY (for the younger DINKs).
It's not a new faddy silly term, it's a long established descriptor for a section of society.
Peaked has become much needed term since the terms gender critical, TERFS, CIS etc become something we all needed to talk about.

CheapThrillsMeanNothing · 13/04/2024 21:55

DINKs have been around since the 80s, along with YUPPIES.

EnbyEx · 13/04/2024 21:56

TinselAngel · 13/04/2024 20:27

Hi OP. If you'd like to write something for the Trans Widows Voices website, drop me a DM.

Edited

Could it be anon?

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Sorrentino · 13/04/2024 22:15

Did your ex try to manage your gender presentation and/or identity and either put labels on you or encourage you to label yourself in any particular way?

to clarify, I’m talking about gender not sexual orientation.

MrsCarson · 13/04/2024 22:16

TTPD · 13/04/2024 18:35

DINK is a fairly standard acronym isn't it? Definitely not a MN thing.

That's what I was thinking too.
I remember it being in use in the mid 90's
If you don't understand a term in use google is your friend.

Josette77 · 13/04/2024 22:24

I dated someone nonbinary and now my partner is trans.

My nonbinary ex was A LOT. Like ... I wasn't allowed to acknowledge the vagina in the room. Or the breasts... I love boobs! It was very sad. They were so uncomfortable in their body.

Trans partner is the easiest person to be around. The perfect man was born a woman. 😉 Unless a big dick is important to you. Although there are a surprising number of options. Lol

He's easy going. We agree about trans people in sports. Similar views on many things. He's very balanced. And we have hot lesbian sex. We jokingly refer to him as having a " mangina " as testosterone changes the size of the clitoris. What we do is pretty gay though. No getting around that!