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My dh walked away from his children after fighting to see them for six years - AMA

292 replies

Katypp · 03/01/2023 12:29

Family courts about 12 years ago - things hopefully will have changed by now

OP posts:
healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:40

@Porcinimushroom i read the post and it says he was paying 80% and reduced it as couldn't maintain it , so its not me who cannot read the post

toomuchlaundry · 03/01/2023 13:41

@Pumperthepumper you ignored the sentence before where the ex asked for 80% of his income, which he paid for a year (if I read the OP's post correctly and for a stepchild too)

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:41

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:40

Why are so many of you finding it hard to believe also op said 12 years ago so not in last couple of years
One poster keeps harping on about him reducing his £250 when that isn't what was said
Whilst more often its a man that walks away and leaves their child, their are mothers that use their child as a weapon as well
Why is that so hard to believe ?

It’s exactly what the OP said, I quoted it for you:

CSA amount at the time was around £250 a month. She allowed very limited contact (in her home) as long as he paid that, which he did for a year, but things went awray as soon as he tried to reduce it.

And if all this happened twelve years ago, is he seeing his kids now?

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:42

@Pumperthepumper you haven't included the first part where it says she wanted 80% of his wage and then csa was £250 implying she wanted more and he paid the 80% for a year then brought it down

RedHelenB · 03/01/2023 13:43

Katypp · 03/01/2023 13:02

@Sellorkeep the judgment was always a contact order, which his ex ignored. She had no fear of the family courts and mothers got away with a lot more then. The courts operated on the 'happy mum happy child' principle.

Not true. My friends were going through court and there kids are now in their 20s and judges were ordering overnights for Dads even for quite young babies

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:43

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:42

@Pumperthepumper you haven't included the first part where it says she wanted 80% of his wage and then csa was £250 implying she wanted more and he paid the 80% for a year then brought it down

Ah, is the that relating to him actually paying 80% of his salary in CM? Guess we’ll wait for the OP to confirm.

Witsendwilly · 03/01/2023 13:43

Whiskeypowers · 03/01/2023 13:38

Family courts do not favour mothers
why do you think the new domestic abuse bill was passed?
Family court is a bear pit where historically abusive men have used the system to continue to abuse women and their children and get away with it.

don’t let what happened to you make you think otherwise.

You should have said “some” abusive men.

It’s also a bear out where “some” mothers manipulate the system and their own kids to make sure their ex’s lives are completely destroyed. If that means destroying the child’s relationship with their dad then so be it.

To simply dismiss any parent who has been though this is very narrow minded

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:44

@Pumperthepumper as another poster had said you ignored the bit before this and i guess not seeing them as op said live in hope

Bepis · 03/01/2023 13:44

Katypp · 03/01/2023 13:02

@Sellorkeep the judgment was always a contact order, which his ex ignored. She had no fear of the family courts and mothers got away with a lot more then. The courts operated on the 'happy mum happy child' principle.

I have to say I agree with this (as someone who has experienced the family court from both the mother and fathers perspective). Men are treated like absolute crap in the system and that includes social services, the court etc.

My DH has spent a long time fighting for his son due to having contact stopped by his ex but this was all turned around on him saying he has an obsessive quality about his ex due to keeping taking it back to court. A psychologist concluded that both parents were causing emotional harm to their child due to conflict yet it was only my DH contact that was at risk. Completely sexist system and I don't blame some men for walking away. I've personally had enough of it all.

Coffeellama · 03/01/2023 13:45

Has he ever tried again to make contact since ‘walking away’?

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:45

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:44

@Pumperthepumper as another poster had said you ignored the bit before this and i guess not seeing them as op said live in hope

I didn’t ignore it, I didn’t think it was relevant to the £250, until I realised (from you!) that it could mean he was paying 80% of his salary (doubtful, but we’ll wait and see).

I’m sure he is seeing his now adult children. I’m certain of it.

knittingaddict · 03/01/2023 13:45

To be fair the posts by op are written very badly. She could be saying he paid 80% of his wages or the £250. It's really not clear. Not sure I believe that any man would pay 80% to his ex. How did he survive? For how long?

knittingaddict · 03/01/2023 13:46

I’m sure he is seeing his now adult children. I’m certain of it.

😂

Witsendwilly · 03/01/2023 13:46

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:41

It’s exactly what the OP said, I quoted it for you:

CSA amount at the time was around £250 a month. She allowed very limited contact (in her home) as long as he paid that, which he did for a year, but things went awray as soon as he tried to reduce it.

And if all this happened twelve years ago, is he seeing his kids now?

You need to work on your comprehension skills, as you are completely misunderstanding the very text you are quoting.

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:47

Some of you have blinkers what one court may decide to another is very different
To believe that in every case family court only gets it wrong when its in favour of a man but not the other way
There are a couple of people saying its happened they have seen it etc
Like i said more men behave poorly but there are women too
I know at least a couple who use their children as weapons
I also agree i know more men who have walked away or barely bother but its not an instant this never happens ever as a mother would never do this

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:48

Witsendwilly · 03/01/2023 13:46

You need to work on your comprehension skills, as you are completely misunderstanding the very text you are quoting.

Or maybe you are? How much would you bet that he was paying 80% of his salary in CM?

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:48

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:47

Some of you have blinkers what one court may decide to another is very different
To believe that in every case family court only gets it wrong when its in favour of a man but not the other way
There are a couple of people saying its happened they have seen it etc
Like i said more men behave poorly but there are women too
I know at least a couple who use their children as weapons
I also agree i know more men who have walked away or barely bother but its not an instant this never happens ever as a mother would never do this

You’re the only person saying mothers never do this though.

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:49

@Pumperthepumper Op implied he is not seeing his kids as after 12 years of no contact and a mum telling them all sorts its unlikely they will be in touch, unless they ever doubt mum later on life
Especially if young and not able to remember much

Witsendwilly · 03/01/2023 13:50

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:48

Or maybe you are? How much would you bet that he was paying 80% of his salary in CM?

It didn’t say it was CM. It said he was paying it at her request

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:51

@Pumperthepumper no there are loads saying this didn't happen as though a mum could never do this
Just because you can't read the post correctly not my issue
Op states he couldn't survive on paying 80% only lasted a while as got into debt etc so answered that part also
Why can't you believe he paid 80% if desperate ??

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:53

@Witsendwilly exactly only reading the parts they want just so they can call Op a liar basically
Like nothing like this ever happens , granted prob rare but also does happen unfortunately

Whiskeypowers · 03/01/2023 13:53

Witsendwilly · 03/01/2023 13:43

You should have said “some” abusive men.

It’s also a bear out where “some” mothers manipulate the system and their own kids to make sure their ex’s lives are completely destroyed. If that means destroying the child’s relationship with their dad then so be it.

To simply dismiss any parent who has been though this is very narrow minded

I haven’t dismissed it I have asked certain questions of the OP who is being predictable in her responses if at all

i don’t need to say some abusive men I said abusive men, I didn’t say men have abused the system I said abusive men. I’ve qualified my group of men as being abusive men already. They don’t include nice men and decent fathers who rightly use court for contact but let’s face it most of those men manage to achieve a result with their ex without the need for court so ……go figure.

some abusive men can’t be arsed to go to court and get thrills out of making threats

some women are awful and lie in court.

does that make you feel better?

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:53

healthadvice123 · 03/01/2023 13:51

@Pumperthepumper no there are loads saying this didn't happen as though a mum could never do this
Just because you can't read the post correctly not my issue
Op states he couldn't survive on paying 80% only lasted a while as got into debt etc so answered that part also
Why can't you believe he paid 80% if desperate ??

No there aren’t. There’s absolutely loads of posts claiming there are though.

I don’t believe it’s possible to regularly pay 80% of your salary towards anything long term. But we’ll wait for @Katypp to confirm, after claiming we could ask anything.

Usergjdksndjsn · 03/01/2023 13:53

If ex is so bad then I’ve no idea how full custody with her is being framed as beneficial to them.
it’s the same classic line men have been using forever to excuse why it’s not their fault they don’t see their kids.

Pumperthepumper · 03/01/2023 13:54

Witsendwilly · 03/01/2023 13:50

It didn’t say it was CM. It said he was paying it at her request

And how much are you prepared to bet he was giving his ex 80% of his salary just because she asked for it?

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