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My partner is addicted to crack and heroin AMA

354 replies

Adventuritis · 18/01/2021 23:51

Just want to be able to help if anyone has suspicions about a loved one...
There are so many misconceptions.

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Adventuritis · 19/01/2021 07:12

DianaT1969 He does casual work every now and then but can’t hold down a job. To be honest this is more because of ADHD, personality disorders than the drugs. No I don’t think he would steal from me. I know he would sell something of his if he was desperate. To be honest if he did, I would see it as a thing his addiction has done rather than a thing he had done.... I know I’ll get slated for that but I can see that for him, living in his head is a really fucking difficult place to be. Everything he does, is to try and control or slow down his head. I feel strongly that if he’d been helped / diagnosed / treated as a child/ teen ten he wouldn’t have turned to self medication. I feel his chance of a real life was taken away by his childhood. I suppose that authorities tried; he spent time in and out of care, but by the time they intervened I believe it was already too late. I strongly disagree that the child is always best with the natural parent. His early experiences well and truly screwed him up and no one cared that he was being so adversely affected. He makes the best of horrible situation the only way he knows how.
Not sure about life expectancy but I would say not many of the ones I know are over 50.

Of course I don’t mean to sound blasé, it’s a absolute tragedy that these people are basically left to die by society. I feel really strongly that we should help these people earlier before they lose control of their lives. I would say the vast majority that I’ve talked to had major life traumas/ disasters between the ages of around 7-14 and it’s made me want to do something to help this.
The drug/ alcohol services do actually try to do a good job but unless the addict is engaged and really wants to stop they don’t stand a chance. My partners drug worker believes he hasn’t used for 11 months because he talks the talk and produced a clear test after staying clean for a month last year... He sees them as the enemy not as someone who can help him and improve his life. But he knows that only he can do it... it just really really really hard!
I know I need to lose weight - sometimes I do, sometimes I can’t be bothered, sometimes I’d rather just stay as I am because it’s easier and it’s what I know. Being a drug addict is exactly the same. He has the same daily struggles between what he knows he “should” do and what his addiction is telling him he needs. It could be coffee, sugar, cigarettes, shopping or heroin, it all works in exactly the same way, and this is why I don’t judge him, because if addiction wasn’t incredibly hard we’d all be slim, healthy, habit free clones with total control over our lives.... and we’re not!
Am I worried he’ll die? I’m not sure. He wants to die and if I’m honest, if it was me I’d want to die too. Life is incredibly hard anyway but having to deal with that forever? I’m not sure I could. I’ll wish I could help him more. I know I have massively changed his life and shown him life can be different. I’d hoped that this would be enough. To make him see there’s more to life but it’s hard to break 20 years of habit. I hope he gets clean, I hope he survives. He’s a wonderful person. He’s kind, funny, loving, and many more things but he never really had a chance because his life was always about surviving. Maybe we will go away for a while and see if that works. But if he does die then I know I tried all I could and I gave him by far the happiest 2 years of his life, but it still wasn’t enough. Unfortunately I’ve got other things going on right now that are taking my energy and I’m kind of taking step back. He needs me but I need to look after myself first.

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Hill1991 · 19/01/2021 07:39

If his drug officer thinks he's clean and you know that he isn't you should be telling his drug officer this as this could be a place for someone who really wants to get clean not someone who wants to play the system.

You don't think that he wouldn't turn on you if he doesn't get his drugs I've seen it happen countless times a cousin of my mums stabbed his own mum because she wouldn't give him money for drugs, if you are that naive that it wouldn't happen to you think again (also he was lovely when he wasn't on the drugs)

What about if your children have kids what your stance on them being around him and you haven't told your own kids because you'd properly know what they will say.

Portla · 19/01/2021 07:43

Oh OP :( my DP's an ex addict, different drugs. But I understand where your coming from. Please get some support for yourself, there's a few support groups for the family of users. If your committed to this relationship you must look after yourself it's oh so easy to fall into a drug users way of thinking and be manipulated.

SmileyClare · 19/01/2021 07:46

Who's paying? That's an expensive habit he has there.

SnickersnotMArs · 19/01/2021 07:47

It’s interesting you said the addiction is like weight. I think it’s mindset if he really wants to he can get help and stop.

Does he not have health implications? The people that supply the drugs (generally) do you believe they are bad people? Or possibly had a rubbish start in life too!

turnthebiglightoff · 19/01/2021 07:48

Where is the money coming from?

CodenameVillanelle · 19/01/2021 07:50

ADHD, personality disorder, suicidality and poly drug abuse? You need some therapy. Are you getting therapy?

Mumdiva99 · 19/01/2021 07:50

This thread makes me a bit annoyed. You sound incredibly naive about his life and your place in it.

His universal credit is not enough to fund daily drugs use so where is he getting his money from? (I'm sure it's not legal whatever he tells you).

When you go to a new town - that you reference above in relation to him finding local dealers - who has paid for the trip away?

I am furious he is lying to his support worker. What a waste of public money/charity funds.

In the words of mumsnet I think you need to give your head a wobble and take off the rose tinted glasses.

SmileyClare · 19/01/2021 07:53

Do you think there's a part of you that not only wants the validation of rescuing someone, being the better person, due to your own low self esteem but also sees a romanticism in the idea of a "tortured soul"?

ApolloandDaphne · 19/01/2021 07:58

If he doesn't work how does he afford the drugs? How much does it cost him per day/month? Please tell us you are not funding his habit?

ApolloandDaphne · 19/01/2021 08:04

Also if he is injecting he runs the risk of contracting Hep C. Does this worry you? Do they share needles?

Bailegangaire · 19/01/2021 08:04

How do you live with yourself if you’re enabling his crack and heroin habit financially? (I’m assuming that he can’t bankroll drugs as well as food, a roof over his head, bills, etc if he’s on benefits and only occasionally works in casual jobs — do you live together?) And why would you? How long had you been seeing him when you found out he was an addict?

Adventuritis · 19/01/2021 08:09

With regards to his drug worker, they call him for 5 minutes once every 6-8 weeks so while I don't agree with him lying to them I think it's better to keep lines of communication open for when he's ready to try again. If you're not already in the system it takes ages to get in by which time many have lost the motivation. Also he needs his methadone script or would use more just to be well.

With regards to the cost you're looking at about £50 a day most days - UC and PIP can pretty much cover this plus there's a few legit jobs here and there.

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Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 19/01/2021 08:09

OP you need to leave.

SnickersnotMArs · 19/01/2021 08:12

@ApolloandDaphne good point about the risk of Hep C and HIV. Have you been HIV tested OP?

SmileyClare · 19/01/2021 08:13

At least one of his friends has died each month I've known him, it's tragic! so 24 of his friends have died in the 2 years you've known him?

Do you think addicts are truthful? Do you think addicts should ever take responsibility for their own actions or should all blame for their addiction be laid squarely on the bad hand they've been dealt in life?

Adventuritis · 19/01/2021 08:18

@SmileyClare

Do you think there's a part of you that not only wants the validation of rescuing someone, being the better person, due to your own low self esteem but also sees a romanticism in the idea of a "tortured soul"?
No I don't, I didn't know when I met him and by the time I found out I'd invested time into what is a good relationship. I had the choice to either walk away or give it go helping him to recovery, and I thought it was worth a try. That is totally my choice. How many of you are with partners who drink every day, or screw around, or do things you'd rather they didn't?? There's always going to be a point where either the problem is dealt with or you decide enough is enough but I'm not there yet and that doesn't have to mean I'm a pathetic woman with no self esteem. Maybe it just means that I enjoy his company and the good outweighs the bad. Honestly, it's just a case of him popping to the loo 2 or 3 times a day and coming back a little more relaxed! And yes I know there's very much more to it than that but it doesn't mean he should be written off as a bad lot, that's very judgmental. Sometimes people deserve a chance.
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Adventuritis · 19/01/2021 08:20

@ApolloandDaphne

Also if he is injecting he runs the risk of contracting Hep C. Does this worry you? Do they share needles?
He would NEVER EVER share needles. They're easy to get a most pharmacies so no need. To be honest he's never really with anyone else when using anyway. He's regularly tested for Hep C.
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TheGoodEnoughWife · 19/01/2021 08:20

I disagree with the others and think you sound like you understand his addiction very well and I also agree that his addiction could be to anything. Unlucky it is to drugs. Food would be more socially acceptable (Although still not that accepted) or he could control food intake or have OCD - all much more accepted and juts circumstances.

I too would be worried about Hep C or HIV though as others have suggested. How do you feel about that?

Thank you for sharing. It is very interesting.

LaMainDeFatima · 19/01/2021 08:21

Such an interesting thread .thanks for sharing

Does he have kids?

ApolloandDaphne · 19/01/2021 08:22

This man is no catch and you are being very naive about his drug use. He is using on top of a methadone script and lying to his drugs worker. He needs £1400 per month to get his drugs but he must also be paying rent, buying food and any other living costs. I can't imagine how he funds all this without you subbing him or him turning to some sort of illegal means.

Spaceman1 · 19/01/2021 08:22

He won't stop until he hits his rock bottom and decides he has had enough and then he can go to NA and start his long road to recovery.

Be careful you don't enable him by staying. You need to think about yourself and your own happiness.

CodenameVillanelle · 19/01/2021 08:23

@Adventuritis

With regards to his drug worker, they call him for 5 minutes once every 6-8 weeks so while I don't agree with him lying to them I think it's better to keep lines of communication open for when he's ready to try again. If you're not already in the system it takes ages to get in by which time many have lost the motivation. Also he needs his methadone script or would use more just to be well.

With regards to the cost you're looking at about £50 a day most days - UC and PIP can pretty much cover this plus there's a few legit jobs here and there.

He's being prescribed methadone whilst hiding his heroin use? He could die from this. Also he's not spending £50 a day of universal credit on drugs. You're so naive! If he's on universal credit and not claiming rent (which I assume he isn't, unless you're fraudulently 'renting' him a room) he will get about £100 a week. Any work he does on top should reduce his benefit by 63p per £1 if he's declaring it.
Frokni · 19/01/2021 08:24

Are you with him when he gets high?
What do your children think?
Did your relationship with him coincide with your kids leaving home?
In your family has their been anybody suffering with substance addiction?

I hope you are ok and feel sad this is something you must endure daily. The AMA is very eye opening.

SmileyClare · 19/01/2021 08:24

Sorry but theres no way his benefits cover a £50 (conservative estimate) a day habit. UC for a single person over 25 is £50 a week plus housing costs.

I have some experience of heavy users. It's a full time job getting money for their habit, usually involving fraud, theft, a lot of lying and possibly a sympathetic girlfriend with a full time job

I'm not judging his predicament, it's no life just existing really.

However, I feel you're not seeing the situation for what it is Op. Do you think you're blinded by love and the idea of a good guy with a poor tortured soul?

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