I'm a midwife who works in abortion care. AMA

[GlitteryPoopooplop]

Go ahead. I'll try and answer everything the best way I can. Sorry if this is boring (I love my job and can go on about it a bit.)!

Little it does not need to make sense to you.
The MAP only works within 72 hours its is a small window of opportunity which for reasons already discussed some women would find that impossible.

Or have multiple abortions? And they manage to get away with that?

There is no getting away with it!
Abortion is not a crime but you seem to think it should be...

Drogosnextwife excellent. I assume you're bowing out now then.

Oh and I really do know what goes on behind closed doors because 2 of them are my very close friends and the other one is one of those women's relative, and they really don't mind discussing every aspect of their life's.

Thank you for the work you do, glittery.

Have you seen the US documentary After Tiller?

Fuzz I assume little miss means getting away with it with their abusers. The morning after pill isn't £1.50 in anywhere I've seen. In boots the cheapest one is £15.99.

I'm not going to say any more details of these specific clients because I don't want to out myself or them (or give any abusers any good ideas). But I can assure you that we do everything we can to keep these women safe, we do contact ss where appropriate.

@Aridane yes! It's AMAZING! It's the thing which solidified my plan to work in the field. Those people are absolute heroes!

Oh and I really do know what goes on behind closed doors because 2 of them are my very close friends and the other one is one of those women's relative, and they really don't mind discussing every aspect of their life's.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

@FuzzyLilac umm where have you managed to form the opinion that from what I have written abortions should be illegal?!

I have quite clearly stated that I agree with the law as it stands. Women should have the right to abort a foetus / undeveloped baby up until 24 weeks.

I do not agree with the OP's statement that a 40 week old baby should be killed, because the mother decides for ANY reason that she doesn't want it!!
Not medical reasons, not an abusive relationship..

Any reason!!

That is what I think is not acceptable.

You think that is acceptable do you??

When that same surgeon could be pulling out that baby and the midwifes hearing its first cry, taking its first breaths, having its first feed..you would prefer to see that baby die? Just because the mother doesn't want it anymore?!

@LittleMissHappy19 that simply doesn't happen. I'm not saying we would blindly just abort at 40 weeks because a woman said she didn't want it. We'd obviously councel her, look at alternatives, listen to her. There are so many reasons that a woman might want to. These would be extreme circumstances and I don't think criminal law should dictate the rules. I think it should be up to the individual woman, and her provider. Where would the law draw the line?

@GlitteryPoopooplop yes I mean in regards to the abusers.

I love my clients and I will defend them to the end.

OP, just reading the full thread and wanted to say that I think you and your attitude are amazing. If only more people were like you, the world would be a much kinder place.

Yes you did say that. You said ANY gestation for ANY reason.

So @SuckingOnDiesel you're another one in agreement to kill a baby at 40 weeks, just because the mother wants to?

glittery if it was a case of you get to decide how serious the woman’s situation is you realise they could just lie right? An murder a healthy full term human being because they changed their mind. I’m sure you see lots of poor abused women but I can guarentee you also see lots of liars, people who abort their baby because it’s the wrong sex but lie about the reason why etc, the law is at 24 weeks because after this point those people that havnt been born yet are viable humans who also deserve some sort of right.

That doesn’t make me anti choice, I just agree with the law. I agree with you about contraception and the morning after pill, I have avoided taking the morning after pill before because if I went to my pharmacy for it everyone in the village would no and I couldn’t go further afield (luckily in my position I would have been happy to continue with the pregnancy had their have been one), and I think forcing forcing hormonal contraception on women in any situation would be a breach of their human rights, termination earlier on absolutely should be every woman’s choice. But killing a viable baby without good reason should quite rightly be illegal.

that simply doesn't happen. I'm not saying we would blindly just abort at 40 weeks because a woman said she didn't want it.

Hahahaha hahaha
Yes you did say that.

So basically anyone questioning abortion up to term is being shut down because the Op and pro life supporters no longer wish to discuss this. As women we obviously cannot deal with knowing how the procedure works. I think most of us have a very real understanding and cannot fathom how someone can be in one room delivering a baby and in another room terminating the life of a baby at the same gestation. I hope the healthcare personnel advocating abortion up to birth never succeed. As for the women in abusive relationships there is help out there and they can get away from their partners. As someone else said, if their movements are being tracked by phone how come the abortion clinic appointments are not coming up.

Yes Little I agree that a woman has the right to an abortion at any stage.

You dont agree and thats fine I am in no way attempting to change your mind.

All i have done is point out that there are women who for reasons you cannot see or understand who have multiple abortions as that is the safest option.

Alb1

A fair few of them will be lying with the law as it stands right now. The OP is being naive if she thinks every single one of the woman who come into her clinic are being truthful about their reasons for abortion, yet she struggles to believe that my close friend tell me all about her situation. Ridiculous.

And I would put my money where my mouth is and support anyone in bringing up their baby as I’m sure others would. The care system however uses care homes and foster families not private individuals known to mothers.

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It is very unlikely to happen because in the real world MOST people do not agree with abortions until full term, it is only on MN and some very extreme pro choicers that have this belief (I have never met one IRL funnily enough) It doesn't matter if it would be a rare occurrence, one abortion of a healthy baby at full term would be too many.

Do you meet the men? Do you feel some women are pressurised into abortion? Do you believe it is the right thing to have abortion after abortion to the same man if he is using it as a method or humiliation and control? I would much rather have some kind of mechanism in place if this happened repeatedly. Clearly the woman is not able to look after herself if she keeps doing this, there should be intervention.

Nobody is been shut down user.
There are multiple posts from both sides.

Abortion clinics do not send text reminders like GPs do.
The law will not change to allow full term abortions outside of medical need so I do find the whole "you would kill a baby" line is only used to paint those who are pro choice as murderers.

I have debated this subject for many years and my opinion is still the same, that a woman has the right to choose and we are not just incubators for the next generation.

Not RTFT yet but just wanted to say thanks to you OP. Midwives working in abortion care bring great skill and compassion and many women will have benefited from what you do and appreciated what you have done for them at a shit, stressful time making it all a bit easier. Thank you.

I agree with Fuzzy.

For the women silently reading this thread feeling like shit at some of the opinions, not everyone is as judgemental as Drogos who knows three women’s stories.