Engaged to a Jehovah witness

[justaddwa]

Ask me anything, please no nasty comments about it!

No we haven't discussed about him ever getting baptised.

@specialsubject hmmm the sarcastic comment doesn't seem cool sounds like maybe a little jealously that my partner does help out? And no violence not restraining he holds my hands to show that he cares and doesn't want things to ever escalate such as shouting it's natural way to show that they are calm and collected it's his way of showing that he's given him he's sorry.

For a non JW you do sound indoctrinated already OP.

justaddwa, how about my other questions? Are you encouraged to investigate widely? Or just watchtower stuff?

@FloralBunting it's a personal choice I'm not forced into anything I don't want to do and if I just want to look at watchtowers I can or investigate further I can.

@hellololly I'm just answering things I've learnt thinking people may wanted to know what it's like and that it isn't impossible.

@justaddwa I genuinely believe you're a very unique case and you're managing to do it because your husband/partner isn't a member under the way the Watchtower views things. I would echo what some other people have said that it's really important you weigh up everything that you read from the Watchtower Society. They're very good at cherry picking the odd quote here and there and not looking at the wider context of the scripture passage. They don't like looking at their own history in my experience too which is a huge red flag (or should be).

Should you be answering questions pertaining to the Jehovah sect if you are not actually a fully paid up member? Your knowledge seems scant to be honest and gleaned mostly from a magazine.
I'm not sure you're in any position to be doing this AMA.

justaddwa, I'm quite sure you're not being forced to do anything, that's not really what I meant. I just mean have you been encouraged to really look at what they're teaching you. I know JWs get a bit of a rep as a cult, so I'm just wondering if they ask you to really subject their teachings to scrutiny, or if they discourage it? Would they be ok with this conversation, for example?

@InspectorIkmen it's not from a magazine I just thought people would be interested. Sorry don't need to be rude about it. I won't bother answering anymore questions if people feel about it. Also if you haven't got anything nice to say nor interesting to this post than don't comment at all.

God I read up to your part about people not needing blood transfusions and have stopped.

When a RTA victim or stabbing victim are brought into hospital and are bleeding out, the first thing the doctors think about is how to save them. Not how much money they can save. Why the fuck would hospitals need to spend millions on “state of the art” technology not using blood, when blood is freely on hand donated by kind people? It’s not a problem that needs solving. Blood saves lives.

I'm not answering anymore questions as people seem to have a broom so far up with an attitude including.

Some clearly haven't read probably and interpreting things differently.

Sorry if I don't reply nor answer your question I just find people so ignorant.

My last answer will be for @FloralBunting sorry I don't really understand what you mean but for my to do this post I see they wouldn't have a problem.

Oh and you really really can't instruct people not to comment just because you are getting twitchy about those comments. That's not how it works. However, this particular quality will stand you in good stead once you fully sign up to the sect.

@InspectorIkmen it's about asking questions not having a dig at what you clearly know. I'm not getting twitchy I have the right to say what I have said.

I think you should really worry about your self than trying to out do me with comments that are not really necessary to the post but more of having to have a dig.

As I've stated before I'm not bothering answering questions because of people like you.

Op never mind people. Thanks for introducing us to your world

no, of course I am not jealous of you, (what a childish comment) and I am now not sympathetic either.

sounds like you are getting what you want and what you deserve. May your kid have choices.

You've said he's a good father - are you allowed children out of wedlock ?

JWs are most definitely not supposed to have children before wedlock. Or even be alone with the opposite sex before wedlock.
I have a friend who is a JW and although i like her a lot she does talk a lot of shit about blood transfusions,; there is absolutely no substitute for blood in an emergency situation. Yes, planned surgery but not a traumatic blood loss. I quite honestly can't bear the "but we have our own blood substitute and have tested to teach everyone that blood isn't needed blah blah blah..." nonsense she spouts. It's dangerous and I really hope she or her children never need a transfusion because she will refuse it.

Tried to teach everyone (not tested).

OP I think you have been getting a bit of a hard time. What is the point of people asking about it being a cult? Seriously, do you think that you will convince OP (or others) into thinking the way you do?

OP if you're still answering questions I'd like to know more about baptising, specifically why your DP is not baptised, why are only (I think) 3 out of 5 siblings baptised and the usual age/process that is involved.
I've never been to a Christening or Baptisism or anything similar, but have always understood that these 'initiations', if you like, into the faith happens as babies. What does it mean for you DP to not be baptised? Does it make a difference? Like in some faiths that he will not get into heaven if it's not done or something? Sorry I don't know much about religions but always been interested.

I like the idea that they are a close-knit community and I can see the attraction, especially for those with little support and bad backgrounds but have heard a lot of negatives which I guess is why most have given you a hard time. I'm glad your daughter is able to have the best of both worlds and hope that you are able to maintain that for her.

How long have you been with your fiance and how did you meet?

Sounds like you're converted OP.

Good Luck.

You know that this 'special machine that pumps glucose and blood round' and means you don't need blood transfusions doesn't exist, right?

I think you're getting confused with cell salvage machines, which can help avoid autologous transfusions in some cases, but not all. And they are commonly used in NHS hospitals for all patients who need them, not just, JWs because they are much cheaper than using donated blood. But sometimes there's no alternative to a transfusion, especially in an emergency.

I'll leave this here: new mother who died quite recently after a cesarean because she refused a blood transfusion because she was a Jehovah's witness.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/health/jehovah-s-witness-new-mother-dies-after-she-refuses-to-be-given-blood-9851014.html%3famp

I am open minded to know we all have different experiences. Mine were not good (religion forced on me as a child). Long story. I always remember being told (sorry - made) to throw out CD's I'd bought by a certain artist (who nearly 20 years later I'm still a fan of). As apparently they were satanic.

I don't want to talk about it in further detail but I'm glad to read we have an example of someone here who is not being cajoled into a religion or even worse pretending they believe to keep everyone else happy.

@RafikiIsTheBest my DH's parent is a JW, so I can answers some of your questions in case the OP doesn't come back.

I believe that JW's get 'initiated' (for want of a better word) at 14. After this, they are a fully fledged member, so to speak.

My DH didn't do the ceremony, whereas his sister did. She also managed to convert her husband and when they both had affairs, her DH was forgiven but SIL disfellowshipped which meant that none of the other JW's could acknowledge her (including her parent who still pretends she doesn't exist).

Because DH didn't get initiated, the parent still thinks it ok to talk to him, despite anything he might have done, although the parent has never been fully accepted within the JW's because they've never managed to convert all the family.

With regards to the close community, this is very calculated as it means their whole lives revolve around being a Witness and you'll find it very hard to extract yourself.

Anyone who thinks this isn't a cult is fooling themselves.

I know the OP isn't coming back.

She appears very vulnerable, uneducated and without self awareness.

Exactly what this sort of madness looks for. Sincerely hope she is okay.

I had a family member who was a JW through marriage. When asked about blood transfusion for her children she replied that the courts take over so essentially it’s not a decision any jw really needs to take hence why they find it so easy to stand by the principle. Otherwise termed a cop-out.

JW’s are required to go knocking on doors in order to convert others to the truth.

Those who don’t stick with the principles of the faith are disowned and shunned by their families and their community.

And children are taught that accepting a blood transfusion is akin to being raped.