Engaged to a Jehovah witness

[justaddwa]

Ask me anything, please no nasty comments about it!

I'm not vulnerable and I do not need your pity when you don't know me I've stated that I am not a JW as I do enjoy birthdays and Christmas. I know what I'm getting myself into and I'm not stupid I make my own choices as a person and they all fully know and aware that I do not want to become a JW but only learn and understand it.

See one such publication here.

www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessmom/2018/03/8-times-the-jehovahs-witnesses-were-wrong-about-the-end-of-the-world/

1. 1877 – The Watch Tower Society believed that Jesus had been amongst us since 1874 working towards his kingdom on earth. The Watch Tower Society predicted that Christ’s kingdom on Earth would be complete in 1914, and the saints would be carried to Heaven. Essentially, the end of the world as we know it. Of course, 1914 rolled around and the closest we got to the end of the world was a world war. Perhaps the Society meant to say that the world would end for 18 million, but for the rest of us, it would be business as usual. We’d all go on living, man would keep ruling and Jesus would keep up his epic game of hide and seek.

1. 1916 – The Witnesses foretold that the first world war would lead to Armageddon and soon after, Christ’s kingdom would be established on Earth. Of course, I am sure many of the men who fought in WWI felt as though it was some form of Armageddon, but alas, it was not and mortal men continued to rule our planet after the war ended (albeit not so well).

1. 1920 – In the wake of their first world war prediction failing, the Watch Tower society jumped right back in the saddle with a brand new prediction. By 1925, the kingdom of God would be established on earth. From Wikipedia:

God would begin restoring the earth. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and other faithful patriarchs would be resurrected to perfect human life and be made princes and rulers, the visible representatives of the New Order on earth.

1. 1938 – The Witnesses stopped conceiving children and getting married because they were told Armageddon was looming. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that premarital sex will jeopardize their friendship with God and that masturbation is a no-no, so I imagine there was a whole crowd of frustrated door-knockers back then. Either that or the Witnesses became one big sea of sin.

1. 1942 – The Watch Tower Society swore that Armageddon was just around the corner. Four years after the moratorium on marriages and babies – that’s four years of marital bliss (and god-approved shagging) some Witnesses missed out on.

1. 1961 – Armageddon was predicted to arrive before the year 2000. It must have been on the same flight as Y2K.

1. 1966 – The Witnesses predicted that the world would meet its “wicked end” and Christ’s kingdom on earth would be established by the year 1975. They believed that 1975 would be 6000 years of man ruling on earth and that the seventh millennium was for good ol’ Jeeboner to rule. Unless Jesus ruled with disco, this failed to come true.

1. 1984 – The Witnesses reiterated that the end of the world would come before the end of the 20th century. Although the world appeared to come crashing down around Big Billy Clinton, mere mortals have continued to rule down here on earth. Some of them better than others. cough Bush cough Trump.

@justaddwa is it not something to do with armageddon occurring when a certain group of people who are JWs who are now ageing all die? (I can't remember the term - is it the anointed?) my memory may be hazy now.

At one point they said that the anointed class would see the end of the world but some time in the last decade or so they've developed this weird cross generation thing to try and explain away what they were saying.

Some of the stuff your saying does not make sense about women aren't allowed to do things which is not true I've been around for a while and I do have a child with him.

He is a JW and I wasn't we had a kid together as he understand me the way I do things and no he is not the head of the house even if he likes to think so I am I make majority of the choices in the house and my daughter is happy extremely happy and never had any problems as she lives a life I like that includes birthdays and Christmas and we go out and watch films whether they are classed as satanic to him and his family I do not care as I do not want my child missing out of the things I never had but my daughter does go to meetings on sundays and she can make the choice herself when she's old enough! He was frowned upon and did get a telling off that he had sex before marriage etc but I don't want to go too much into that and my person life but we compromise and it works for us all.

As your partner is not baptised I would assume that he is young, probably late teens?? How old are you? I think you have found yourself a nice stable family environment... That you didn't have before and when the time comes and you are a mother and have an opinion that differs from that environment, you wi possibly see a different side to it.

Your getting that from someone's blog

I am 23 and he is 25

anotherBadAvatar - yes, same here (although non-practicing these days).

The sad fact is it is pretty easy for an organisation to tell people all sorts of things knowing the audience has no relevant background and no impetus to follow through with their own independent research - aka drinking the Kool-Aid. Which is completely fine if it's a choice you are making for yourself. What's not fine is imposing it on a child who has no independent knowledge only misinformation fed to them by people they trust, age-restricted thought processes and no choices. Although a little moot in critical circumstances with no suitable alternatives as it's just done in parallel with a request for a court order (which in my experience always came through very quickly and easily and was just the official tick for what had already been done). It's just the kerfuffle with dealing with parents and paperwork that's the issue.

Punctuation! I'm out of breath...

No he is not baptised that is why he wasn't disfellowshipped and why we do it the way we do because it works for us. But if he was baptised we wouldn't be together and would be massively frowned upon.

@KatieMarieJ yes the 144,000.

OP judging from your most recent post it seems you have managed to find a way of being together which doesn't force you to partake in any way. So, for me, there's no problem.

I can say though that's not the case for others but I'm happy it's working for you

Do you feel offended or pressured if his family talk to u about their beliefs in an attempt to make u understand /convert u lol?

So do you acknowledge that those who have been baptised may be treated very badly by the JW community if they are seen to 'stray' from the teachings?

I was born in 1975. Maybe he thinks I’m special thank you OP. He doesn’t seem to take the hint and will leave info with my “under no pressure” I’ll just continue hiding and maybe move house. Good Luck, I respect all religions but mine tends to revolve around food and drink with me as the leader.

I completely understand that others do have problems It not working because clearly it wasn't for them. I'm only saying what I have learnt I'm not an expert and never will be it's hard at times don't get me wrong but they understand I came from a different background and lifestyle so they aren't so pushy or hard on it as I have stated very clearly that please do not push it upon me and let me back the choice myself they have always said that you make the bible your own. You could get some right JW that are over the top and some that are laid back and I suppose I'm pretty lucky that I have laid back family of JW who aren't nasty nor pushy and not horrible to disown family members that easy. And I do feel for the family's and people that have had it to happen because I could never walk away from my child no matter what situation she's in.

Sorry for poor punctuation I'm just try answer quickly as I have so many people commenting and I'm trying to be quick! So I'm sorry!.

What will you do if your child disowns you when they're older for not being a 'good' witness?

Leave a note on the door say do not accept like rubbish mail and anything religious at your home maybe things will change then

Well then that's her choice but I'm pretty sure every kid would choose Christmas and birthdays right? She'll always know that I wasn't one but understand it.

I can't answer everyone's comments because they are things I have not learnt so I cannot comment on it. So I'm sorry for that too!

Same to my child's father there are some things about him that I respect meaning never to entertain another women. He always said that Jehovah witness men and women are not allowed to be alone by themselves because of potential temptation. My partner is loyal and extremely good father and I have never had any worry nor doubts about him because of the religion and how it says in the bible that respecting women and the mother to your children. He's the one who could slave the whole day if I told him too hahaha! But I don't as he works of course but it's tempting sometimes when he's at home. but arguments also never escalate either as he grabs my hands and lowers himself and apologises first and explains why he feels the way he does. He helps with all the housework and I'm never left to do it by myself even if I have done it all he always says should of left abit for me to do. He's a good egg I suppose.

Hi justaddwa.

It sounds like your partner comes from a JW family, but as he isn't baptized, he's not a member, and you have indicated you know that by talking about the fact that your relationship would have been frowned on if he were.

Is he planning on being baptized at all? Do either of you investigate other sources of information than the various publications of the Watchtower? Are you encouraged to?

he helps with housework? big of him... in the real world it is called doing what everyone has to do.

he grabs your hands. are you about to thump him or is he restraining you?

satanic things like birthdays Christmas

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