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Kickpot · 20/10/2026 08:56

I wasn't sure where to post this, and I'm not even sure I'm expecting responses, but I needed to write this down somewhere.

I recently found out that my sister and her partner have been neglecting and physically and verbally abusing my nephew (her son).

He is 5 years old and this has probably been going on since she met her partner when my nephew was around 2 years old. My nephew is autistic and has only recently started speaking in a way that others can understand, previously he would repeat certain quotes over and over. I believe this is one of the reasons they were able to hide what they were doing as they would brush behaviours off as "autism" and he couldn't tell us any differently.

I live abroad and only visit my family once a year. I video call often and my sister would send photos and videos most days. I thought they had a normal life. If anything, I was proud of her as it seemed her parenting journey was much harder than my own and yet she was so happy. The guilt I have that I was too far away to notice that things weren't right, and that I'm still too far away to really help is all consuming.

This all only came to light as his teacher became suspicious. Then my mum found bruises. It has spiralled from there.

The thought that he has spent his short life feeling afraid and unable to ask for help is destroying me. The thought that my sister has inflicted such harm on a child, and watched as the man she chose did too, makes me sick. They recorded a lot of it. My sister shared the videos on the family WhatsApp as she believed they would absolve her. The images and the sounds never leave me, day or night. I don't know who she is anymore. I don't know how my nephew will ever trust an adult again.

My nephew will stay with my parents now, hopefully permanently. I offered to have him live with me but that would upend his whole life. He loves his school and he has all of his therapies already set up in their town. My sister wants him back though, as does her partner. That surely won't be allowed?

I don't know if anyone will read this. I'm just devastated.

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TwinklySquid · 20/10/2026 17:46

As you don’t live locally, you will be limited on what you can do. But you can do something. Could you offer financial support for your parents to have a break occasionally? Or pay towards therapies? If that isn’t affordable, you could offer to babysit when you are over again. Or take him out for the day.

My family stood by as my mother and her partner abused me and my siblings. They act surprised why we no longer talk. Anything you do to help him, will be great.

Namechangewegovyjune26 · 20/10/2026 17:47

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 20/10/2026 17:42

Sadly people change under the influence of a malign partner, sometimes out of all recognition.

I've come to the conclusion that there are very few people who will really stand up for their principles no matter what. It takes a lot.

I will never ever understand it. Knowing how I feel as a mother, about my kids… I can’t imagine turning on them, whatever abuse I was going through. I’d rather be arrested for murder. Luckily my mum never turned on us either despite she was with an abuser herself.

I’ll never understand it but there’s a lot of stories about these situations so you must be right.

saraclara · 20/10/2026 17:56

Please make sure that your parents are logging the visits, so there's a record if when she doesn't turn up or only stays for five minutes, etc. This could be really important in a court case. If they have a Ring doorbell which proves when/if she arrives and leaves, all the better

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 17:58

saraclara · 20/10/2026 17:56

Please make sure that your parents are logging the visits, so there's a record if when she doesn't turn up or only stays for five minutes, etc. This could be really important in a court case. If they have a Ring doorbell which proves when/if she arrives and leaves, all the better

Thank you. They have both of those. They also record anything else of note so they have a log and don't have to try to recall information.

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LBFseBrom · 20/10/2026 17:59

That is heartbreaking, poor little chap.

PyongyangKipperbang · 20/10/2026 18:01

I think it may help to remember (this is to all on the thread as well as @Kickpot ) that as awful as what this poor wee man has been through, he has been removed from it.

It hasnt been ignored by teachers, glossed over by his family, let slip through the cracks by social workers or played down by the police.

This child will never be a tragic headline because everyone concerned did the right things when his mother didnt.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 20/10/2026 18:09

Also, at 5, while some brain wiring will have taken place a great deal of repair work can be done with the correct help. The brain also rewires heavily during adolescence and a lot can be done then, too.

Not all damage can be undone, and it depends on how severe the abuse was, but a great deal can be helped.

WildLeader · 20/10/2026 18:09

Thank god the boy is safe, fight to the end of your days to NEVER allow those monsters to have him back ever again

WildLeader · 20/10/2026 18:11

This child will never be a tragic headline because everyone concerned did the right things when his mother didnt.

couldn’t agree with @PyongyangKipperbang more.

this @Kickpot

Arabelllllllla · 20/10/2026 18:12

Hadenough32 · 20/10/2026 16:45

Yeah we are foster carers. I fostered a 7yo that graphically described how her dad had been sexually abusing her and also allowing his friends too. She was so brave. Re told it to social workers and then again for the police. Case built against the dad and he was convicted but during the 9months we waited for court dad was allowed 3 x hourly visits per week fully supervised by social services. He regularly guilted her upset her, whispered about changing her story when he thought he couldn't be overheard. Problem is my child isn't adopted we have an SGO. This means bio parents retain parental responsibility. Whenever someone has PR they are generally legally allowed info about and or access to the child. There is so much support for the parents that have had their kids legally taken its insane. They have their own social workers, support workers. Charities keen to jump in and help them prove they changed in the 6 weeks they work with them. I get absolutely zero support for the child. He's only entitled to what other kids queue up for on the nhs. No fast tracked therapies etc. Yet his mum has had multiple rounds of private therapies to.cope with her 'loss'. As soon as support workers change or pull away we don't hear from her again untill someone encourages her. It's shit.

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Im so sorry to hear about this, that poor little girl. The second time I've cried about this thread today, first after the OP's post. I need to toughen up about it, I know.

Thank god there are people like you around to fight the good fight, hopefully I'll get there too in time.

Its just abominable that not only are there adults abusing children, but that there are people in positions of power putting the same children back in danger. Of course they won't see it as more abuse, but thats exactly what it is.

This information is really helpful to me, and im sure will help the OP navigate her family's awful situation so thank you.

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 18:25

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 20/10/2026 18:09

Also, at 5, while some brain wiring will have taken place a great deal of repair work can be done with the correct help. The brain also rewires heavily during adolescence and a lot can be done then, too.

Not all damage can be undone, and it depends on how severe the abuse was, but a great deal can be helped.

This is very reassuring. Because of his communication challenges, it's difficult to know exactly how he feels and how he is processing his experiences, which is why we sought professional support in that area.

My hope for him is that he grows up feeling safe and loved and secure. He knows where home is. He knows who will be there. He never feels afraid of what will happen in the nighttime ever again.

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ShutupLwren · 20/10/2026 18:29

Arabelllllllla · 20/10/2026 18:12

Im so sorry to hear about this, that poor little girl. The second time I've cried about this thread today, first after the OP's post. I need to toughen up about it, I know.

Thank god there are people like you around to fight the good fight, hopefully I'll get there too in time.

Its just abominable that not only are there adults abusing children, but that there are people in positions of power putting the same children back in danger. Of course they won't see it as more abuse, but thats exactly what it is.

This information is really helpful to me, and im sure will help the OP navigate her family's awful situation so thank you.

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The whole system is fucked up pal. I have professional and personal experience with child abuse, parents keeping PR etc and it’s just a clusterfuck.
These poor kids deserve so much better.

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 18:30

PyongyangKipperbang · 20/10/2026 18:01

I think it may help to remember (this is to all on the thread as well as @Kickpot ) that as awful as what this poor wee man has been through, he has been removed from it.

It hasnt been ignored by teachers, glossed over by his family, let slip through the cracks by social workers or played down by the police.

This child will never be a tragic headline because everyone concerned did the right things when his mother didnt.

I used to scoff when I saw news stories of children murdered by abusive parents/step parents, where extended family would say they had no idea what was going on. I would think to myself that they must've known, deep down they must have had an inkling. And now I see how it happens.

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independentfriend · 20/10/2026 18:37

Stuff worth thinking about:

  • If your nephew is going to be able to use Google/Facebook or whatever similar things are around when he's older, he'll be able to find his mother maybe without your or your parents involvement. There are good reasons for maintaining some contact between them so she doesn't become an unreal, rose tinted glasses version of herself in his mind. You'll need advice whether it should be supervised face to face contact, phone contact or letter based contact only. There are also good reasons for no contact for a bit but with a plan to revisit it before he's a teenager.

  • There is hope for your sister if she can detach herself from her partner. There's a possibility she was behaving as she did because of his abuse of her. Pointing her at domestic abuse resources would be kind. But she will have to acknowledge she behaved badly towards her child and that might be too hard for her to do for some time.

  • Some of the recommended things for Autism - eg. Applied Behavioural Analysis can look coercive and in historic variants explicitly included adversives to try to change children's behaviour. Do consider whether your sister might have had a genuine belief she was doing it right. Intention isn't everything and doesn't erase the consequences but is relevant to the risk she poses.

Caring for disabled children is hard* - sometimes people do snap (different from videoing abuse) - think about respite for your parents. Can you/they pay for someone to take him for a Saturday afternoon or something? Can he use wraparound care at school?

*Kinship care is the phrase you want when looking for help. The specialist charities will be able to point you at lawyers.

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 18:41

Hadenough32 · 20/10/2026 16:45

Yeah we are foster carers. I fostered a 7yo that graphically described how her dad had been sexually abusing her and also allowing his friends too. She was so brave. Re told it to social workers and then again for the police. Case built against the dad and he was convicted but during the 9months we waited for court dad was allowed 3 x hourly visits per week fully supervised by social services. He regularly guilted her upset her, whispered about changing her story when he thought he couldn't be overheard. Problem is my child isn't adopted we have an SGO. This means bio parents retain parental responsibility. Whenever someone has PR they are generally legally allowed info about and or access to the child. There is so much support for the parents that have had their kids legally taken its insane. They have their own social workers, support workers. Charities keen to jump in and help them prove they changed in the 6 weeks they work with them. I get absolutely zero support for the child. He's only entitled to what other kids queue up for on the nhs. No fast tracked therapies etc. Yet his mum has had multiple rounds of private therapies to.cope with her 'loss'. As soon as support workers change or pull away we don't hear from her again untill someone encourages her. It's shit.

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Charities keen to jump in and help them prove they changed in the 6 weeks they work with them

Yes, this is something I have found baffling. My sister was able to access to 5 or 6 different support groups/therapies etc almost immediately. Yet everything for my nephew, we have had to seek out, pay for and evaluate ourselves. It feels totally the wrong way around.

She has a social worker and an advocate (I forget the job title) who are purely there to be on her side, it seems. There are no sides, from my perspective, as that makes this sound like a petty playground kerfuffle. But my nephew has not been assigned anyone to be "on his side" other than my parents who have no formal training in this area.

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 20/10/2026 18:43

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 18:25

This is very reassuring. Because of his communication challenges, it's difficult to know exactly how he feels and how he is processing his experiences, which is why we sought professional support in that area.

My hope for him is that he grows up feeling safe and loved and secure. He knows where home is. He knows who will be there. He never feels afraid of what will happen in the nighttime ever again.

I'm afraid that once you know what can happen in the nighttime, you can never un-know it.

But the good, from a stable loving caring family going forward, can far outweigh the bad.

With a NT person, there's also the extremely difficult question of "why did my parents treat me so badly that I couldn't stay with them? why didn't my Dad want me?" when they get older. When the family breaks down it takes a lot of coming to terms with emotionally and mentally.

How a not-very-verbal autistic child, specifically your autistic nephew, will take it is another question. Which is why, in the strongest way, I'd urge you to encourage your parents to find an experienced therapist skilled and trained in both autism and trauma. As others have said, while they are different things, in some cases (particularly with severe trauma) the symptoms can be almost the same, and it takes a great deal of experience to know how to treat, what.

On the good side, it will help a lot that he already knows his grandparents and while this is only an intuition of mine, by now I think that blood-relationship is a subtle but powerful thing and since he's with his grandparents, that too will be on his side. Although as said, that's only an intuition of mine by now.

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 18:50

independentfriend · 20/10/2026 18:37

Stuff worth thinking about:

  • If your nephew is going to be able to use Google/Facebook or whatever similar things are around when he's older, he'll be able to find his mother maybe without your or your parents involvement. There are good reasons for maintaining some contact between them so she doesn't become an unreal, rose tinted glasses version of herself in his mind. You'll need advice whether it should be supervised face to face contact, phone contact or letter based contact only. There are also good reasons for no contact for a bit but with a plan to revisit it before he's a teenager.

  • There is hope for your sister if she can detach herself from her partner. There's a possibility she was behaving as she did because of his abuse of her. Pointing her at domestic abuse resources would be kind. But she will have to acknowledge she behaved badly towards her child and that might be too hard for her to do for some time.

  • Some of the recommended things for Autism - eg. Applied Behavioural Analysis can look coercive and in historic variants explicitly included adversives to try to change children's behaviour. Do consider whether your sister might have had a genuine belief she was doing it right. Intention isn't everything and doesn't erase the consequences but is relevant to the risk she poses.

Caring for disabled children is hard* - sometimes people do snap (different from videoing abuse) - think about respite for your parents. Can you/they pay for someone to take him for a Saturday afternoon or something? Can he use wraparound care at school?

*Kinship care is the phrase you want when looking for help. The specialist charities will be able to point you at lawyers.

Thank you.

I simply can't believe she believes she was doing it right based on what I have seen. Her partner certainly was not. Possibly it started that way and over time they forgot he was a little boy and lost control.

The rose tinted glasses point is a good one, and is actually something we had previously talked about in relation to my nephew's father. I agree with you that it needs to be handled sensitively. I think it's just not the best time for us to think about it, but I agree we will need a plan.

The financial support I give to my parents covers respite care every Saturday, school transport and his therapies (Speech and language, occupational therapy etc) and anything else that comes up like swimming lessons or sensory activities etc.

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PyongyangKipperbang · 20/10/2026 18:53

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 18:41

Charities keen to jump in and help them prove they changed in the 6 weeks they work with them

Yes, this is something I have found baffling. My sister was able to access to 5 or 6 different support groups/therapies etc almost immediately. Yet everything for my nephew, we have had to seek out, pay for and evaluate ourselves. It feels totally the wrong way around.

She has a social worker and an advocate (I forget the job title) who are purely there to be on her side, it seems. There are no sides, from my perspective, as that makes this sound like a petty playground kerfuffle. But my nephew has not been assigned anyone to be "on his side" other than my parents who have no formal training in this area.

Advocates are purely to make sure that they have a voice and that it is heard, the advocate is not "on their side".

I have a friend who used to work as an advocate for children through Barnados (so may be worth giving them a call and NSPCC) and her job was so hard. She would have to voice what the kids wanted in meetings or in court, which was often to go home to their abuser, understandable as that is all they know. Her own instinct was to tell them that no, they were better off where they were, but that wasnt her job. Your sisters advocate will be doing the same, the advocates personal views are irrelevant.

Its literally "Ms X believes that the child would be better off with her because........"

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 18:57

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 20/10/2026 18:43

I'm afraid that once you know what can happen in the nighttime, you can never un-know it.

But the good, from a stable loving caring family going forward, can far outweigh the bad.

With a NT person, there's also the extremely difficult question of "why did my parents treat me so badly that I couldn't stay with them? why didn't my Dad want me?" when they get older. When the family breaks down it takes a lot of coming to terms with emotionally and mentally.

How a not-very-verbal autistic child, specifically your autistic nephew, will take it is another question. Which is why, in the strongest way, I'd urge you to encourage your parents to find an experienced therapist skilled and trained in both autism and trauma. As others have said, while they are different things, in some cases (particularly with severe trauma) the symptoms can be almost the same, and it takes a great deal of experience to know how to treat, what.

On the good side, it will help a lot that he already knows his grandparents and while this is only an intuition of mine, by now I think that blood-relationship is a subtle but powerful thing and since he's with his grandparents, that too will be on his side. Although as said, that's only an intuition of mine by now.

I'm sure he'll never un-know any of it. I just hope he learns that those things were inflicted on him by two bad people and not all people are bad and will hurt him and scare him.

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Hadenough32 · 20/10/2026 19:07

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 18:41

Charities keen to jump in and help them prove they changed in the 6 weeks they work with them

Yes, this is something I have found baffling. My sister was able to access to 5 or 6 different support groups/therapies etc almost immediately. Yet everything for my nephew, we have had to seek out, pay for and evaluate ourselves. It feels totally the wrong way around.

She has a social worker and an advocate (I forget the job title) who are purely there to be on her side, it seems. There are no sides, from my perspective, as that makes this sound like a petty playground kerfuffle. But my nephew has not been assigned anyone to be "on his side" other than my parents who have no formal training in this area.

Yeah sorry kickpot you'll find this the whole way along. My only advice is not to piss of child's social worker. Play the game so to speak. Don't say you refuse to facilitate contact with parents as they can just as quickly remove your nephew into foster care. Also get every agreement in writing. Email everything so your parents have a paper trail.. social workers have immense loads and shit conditions they'll look our for themselves before the kids.
Just keep pulling everything back into your nephews needs eg
Yes of course it's import his mum is in his life and we will facilitate this at his pace and according to his needs.
Just don't say no to anything untill your parents have legal parental responsibility..not temporary. They need to be legal guardians which is only given in courts. Untill they have that social can remove your nephew from them with zero warning or reasons. Seen it happen numerous times when birth families are difficult for social worker.

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 19:08

PyongyangKipperbang · 20/10/2026 18:53

Advocates are purely to make sure that they have a voice and that it is heard, the advocate is not "on their side".

I have a friend who used to work as an advocate for children through Barnados (so may be worth giving them a call and NSPCC) and her job was so hard. She would have to voice what the kids wanted in meetings or in court, which was often to go home to their abuser, understandable as that is all they know. Her own instinct was to tell them that no, they were better off where they were, but that wasnt her job. Your sisters advocate will be doing the same, the advocates personal views are irrelevant.

Its literally "Ms X believes that the child would be better off with her because........"

The advocate (I may not be using the right job title as it sounds like your friend does something very different) told us that her role is to be the one person on my sister's side so she always feels she has someone to turn to and who will stand up for her. Those were her words in the first meeting we had. They go for coffees and for lunch and, most recently, a nail appointment to 'build trust".

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Kickpot · 20/10/2026 19:10

Hadenough32 · 20/10/2026 19:07

Yeah sorry kickpot you'll find this the whole way along. My only advice is not to piss of child's social worker. Play the game so to speak. Don't say you refuse to facilitate contact with parents as they can just as quickly remove your nephew into foster care. Also get every agreement in writing. Email everything so your parents have a paper trail.. social workers have immense loads and shit conditions they'll look our for themselves before the kids.
Just keep pulling everything back into your nephews needs eg
Yes of course it's import his mum is in his life and we will facilitate this at his pace and according to his needs.
Just don't say no to anything untill your parents have legal parental responsibility..not temporary. They need to be legal guardians which is only given in courts. Untill they have that social can remove your nephew from them with zero warning or reasons. Seen it happen numerous times when birth families are difficult for social worker.

The social worker insists on communicating over the phone rather than in writing. This is something I find very frustrating.

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Sunbringer · 20/10/2026 19:14

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 19:10

The social worker insists on communicating over the phone rather than in writing. This is something I find very frustrating.

If you get Granola iOS it can record phone calls while you have them on an iPhone and transcribe into summaries. You can then email it over to her. Just tell her when the call starts that you’re recording it for your records.

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 19:17

Sunbringer · 20/10/2026 19:14

If you get Granola iOS it can record phone calls while you have them on an iPhone and transcribe into summaries. You can then email it over to her. Just tell her when the call starts that you’re recording it for your records.

Thank you.

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Hadenough32 · 20/10/2026 19:25

Kickpot · 20/10/2026 19:10

The social worker insists on communicating over the phone rather than in writing. This is something I find very frustrating.

Yeah of course they do because the paper trail will never be in their favour.
What I do is pretend that I'm a busy slightly ditzy person and I let then know that I take notes during phone calls. After the call I summarise the points made, queries I raised, things promised etc and then I send it to the person i had the phone call with.
Hey just for my records I'm summarising what we talked about and decided when you called me at 3pm today. Let me know if any of the details are incorrect.

And I don't know why but I always end emails with something like hope you have a lovely weekend we're taking child A to bla bla. Just letting them know somewhere nice you're going or you've done. Keeps the tone really friendly and nice especially if they share your emails with judges other workers etc.

but if they do this Then your parents have covered themselves. Doesn't even matter if the sw doesn't read it. Point is that they should be.