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stuckntired · 14/09/2026 20:14

I honestly dont know what to do anymore. DS1 and DS2 have just turned 15 a few weeks ago and are in year 11 and school are now talking about exclusion. I feel sick even writing that because its GCSE year and things have got so bad. Ive tried everything I can think of and nothing seems to make any difference

DS1 and DS2 are identical twins and they are very close. They dont really have friends apart from each other which used to worry me but now I actually think its making things worse. They are together all the time. They go out together sit in their room together game together and if one gets into trouble the other one is normally there making it worse. They dont seem to have anyone else to answer to really. Its just them

When they started year 7 DS1 was bright and a bit of a smart arse if Im honest. He could be cheeky and answer back but teachers liked him and he was actually interested in his work. He was good at maths and science and I remember being told he had loads of potential. DS2 was always more difficult and has always liked attention. He would mess about for a laugh and get other children going but it wasnt anything that seemed that serious then. They were both annoying at times but I never thought we would get to this

It got worse in year 8 then worse again in year 9. More detentions more arguments more emails home. DS2 was usually the one starting things and DS1 would sometimes tell him to stop but then he started joining in instead. I kept thinking they would grow out of it. Now they are in year 11 and they are both a nightmare in school. They talk over teachers make noises shout things out laugh when they are told off and refuse to do basic things. They argue about everything and take up so much teacher time. There have been detentions and isolations and now they are talking about exclusion

They both walk out of lessons if they dont like what they are being told. They have refused to hand their phones over and DS2 has sworn at teachers. DS1 has started doing it too. They wind each other up and then laugh about it. If one gets sent out the other will usually start making comments or laughing. They have been put in isolation more than once. The school keeps saying they cant keep taking teachers away from lessons to deal with them and I do understand that but I dont know how Ive ended up with two boys who think this is funny. They dont seem to care about consequences at all

DS1 is what really gets me because he was the bright one. He doesnt even do his homework anymore. If he gets good feedback or a good grade he used to get really pleased with himself but now DS2 makes comments about him being a teachers pet or being up the teachers arse and all sorts. DS1 used to get annoyed but now he laughs with him. If a teacher says something positive about DS1 DS2 will make some comment about him thinking hes clever. He seems to hate his brother doing well and I think DS1 has started avoiding doing anything that makes him stand out because of it. Its horrible because I know he can do better

I have asked school if they can put them in different classes because I think they need separating but they are both bottom set for a lot of subjects so its not really possible. Moving one up would mean putting him in a set he isnt working at and school cant just move him up to separate them. They also picked exactly the same options for GCSE which Im now thinking was probably because they wanted to be together all the time. At the time I didnt think anything of it. On Friday they had a supply teacher who didnt know them and apparently they kept swapping places and saying they were each other. She couldnt work out who was who and eventually had to call the HOY because they wouldnt stop. They thought it was hilarious

At home they are awful as well. If I ask them to do anything I get why or you cant make me and then it can go straight into swearing. They leave plates upstairs and rubbish everywhere and neither of them will do anything unless I ask over and over. They stay up gaming when they have been told to go to bed. If I take one phone the other one suddenly says its his or hides it. They both vape even though I keep taking them away. A few months ago I found out DS2 was smoking cigarettes as well. He denied it at first then basically said it was only a few. When they are grounded they just go anyway. They have climbed out of a downstairs window before because I wouldnt let them out

They are also causing trouble around the estate. They go out together and there have been complaints about banging on doors throwing eggs kicking bins shouting through letterboxes riding electric bikes where they shouldnt and going into peoples gardens. They have thrown stones at a garage door and apparently filmed some of it. I have defended them before because I thought people were blaming them for things other kids had done but Ive since found out they actually were involved in some of it. DS2 seems to enjoy getting a reaction from people and DS1 goes along with it. I dont know why they think this is funny

DS2 and girls is another thing Im really struggling with. He has always liked attention but the things Ive been told recently are not something I can just put down to being immature. He makes comments about girls bodies and has apparently carried on talking to girls after theyve told him to leave them alone. Hes shown messages from girls to other boys and one girl blocked him and he thought it was hilarious. Ive spoken to him about boundaries and consent and he tells me everyone is too sensitive and that it was a joke. DS1 has sometimes been there laughing too. Another thing I found out was DS2 took a girls bag from outside a classroom and passed it to another boy because they thought it was funny watching her look for it. She was crying apparently. I was absolutely horrified

Today I had another phone call from school. DS2 had an energy drink in class and when the teacher tried to take it off him he just walked out. DS1 followed him and they were running around the corridors laughing and refusing to come back. They were both put into isolation for the rest of the week. The problem is theres only one isolation room so school are now trying to work out something else because apparently putting them together defeats the point. They said they need to separate them somehow

Im seriously thinking about trying to move DS1 to another school. I feel like he needs getting away from DS2 before he throws everything away as well. Hes august born so Ive even wondered if I could ask if he could start year 10 again but I dont know if thats completely ridiculous. I know hes 15 and should make his own choices but I honestly think being together constantly is making both of them worse. They have no friends apart from each other and just egg each other on. Ive asked various people for help and dont seem to be getting anywhere. Im starting to worry about what theyll be like in a few years. Ive actually had a nightmare about them both being in prison which sounds dramatic but thats honestly where my head is at now

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TheJuryIsOut · 15/09/2026 14:36

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 14:11

Im not pretending theres no problem. I know theres a massive problem and Ive known that for a while now. I just dont want them expelled because then what happens. Theyll probably end up in a PRU and Im honestly worried theyll just get in with even more boys who are already in trouble. I can imagine them both causing trouble there and it being the two of them against another group of boys who are also looking for trouble. They egg each other on as it is

Ive read about what happens to children who are excluded and the statistics around them ending up in prison later on and honestly it just makes me feel like thats where this is heading. I know thats probably me catastrophising but when youre already dealing with all this its hard not to think about where it could end up

They havent really said what they want to do after GCSEs. I ask them and they just shrug or say they dont know. They both used to be really into music though. DS1 played guitar and they used to talk about being in a band together or doing something with music. I dont know how serious they ever were about it or whether it was just one of those things teenagers talk about because they like music but they havent talked about it for ages now

I dont know if moving DS2 would actually work and if another school would want him

Also it's not the exclusions that lead to prison, it's the behaviour that leads to exclusion and unfortunately you're already there

cutitopen · 15/09/2026 14:37

I think separating them is worth a try and cannot do any harm at all. Twins and especially twin boys are very hard to parent.

RedToothBrush · 15/09/2026 14:39

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 14:11

Im not pretending theres no problem. I know theres a massive problem and Ive known that for a while now. I just dont want them expelled because then what happens. Theyll probably end up in a PRU and Im honestly worried theyll just get in with even more boys who are already in trouble. I can imagine them both causing trouble there and it being the two of them against another group of boys who are also looking for trouble. They egg each other on as it is

Ive read about what happens to children who are excluded and the statistics around them ending up in prison later on and honestly it just makes me feel like thats where this is heading. I know thats probably me catastrophising but when youre already dealing with all this its hard not to think about where it could end up

They havent really said what they want to do after GCSEs. I ask them and they just shrug or say they dont know. They both used to be really into music though. DS1 played guitar and they used to talk about being in a band together or doing something with music. I dont know how serious they ever were about it or whether it was just one of those things teenagers talk about because they like music but they havent talked about it for ages now

I dont know if moving DS2 would actually work and if another school would want him

Your boys are the type of boys who go to a PRU because they are the ones that are causing the trouble. All this nonsense about meeting worse types of boys. No that is your boys. They need a PRU and a mother who stops minimising their behaviour, putting off intervention and consistency of discipline that doesn't immediately crack.

At this point, you have already hit a point where your options are limited. An earlier intervention might have stopped this, but yes prison might be a real possibility if they don't have consequences and take it seriously.

Why should other kids have to put up with their behaviour?

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 15:02

TheJuryIsOut · 15/09/2026 14:34

Unfortunately I think this is the result of you not taking their behaviour seriously when they were younger and nipping it in the bud.

I'd let them be excluded and sent to a pru to be honest. And I'd take their phones, games consoles and everything else

I did take their behaviour seriously when they were younger. I know it probably doesnt sound like that from what Ive written but it really wasnt that bad then. They were basically 2 cheeky boys. DS1 was a bit of a smart arse and DS2 always liked attention but they werent constantly getting into trouble or anything like that

I pulled them up on things and there were consequences. They had detentions and I dealt with things at home. I wasnt just letting them do whatever they wanted and hoping they would grow out of it. They were actually quite likeable boys when they were younger and had friends and things were manageable

Its just got so much worse as theyve got older and now consequences dont seem to bother them. Taking things away doesnt make them suddenly behave. They argue with me about it or just go out anyway and then its another battle

Now it feels like its the 2 of them against me most of the time. They back each other up and egg each other on and if I get one to calm down the other will start something. They arent little boys anymore either so I cant physically drag them upstairs or anything like that

Ive asked for help and tried working with school and other services and nobody seems to actually be able to help me.

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DearCritic · 15/09/2026 15:21

Put them both in cadets. If they want electronics, they’ll go to cadets. Ideally a different one for each….
Ideally get them both into sport too.

They needed this years ago. But hopefully it’ll still have some positive impact.

Do they get pocket money? If so, only allow it all homework is done. If not, no pocket money.

TheJuryIsOut · 15/09/2026 15:27

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 15:02

I did take their behaviour seriously when they were younger. I know it probably doesnt sound like that from what Ive written but it really wasnt that bad then. They were basically 2 cheeky boys. DS1 was a bit of a smart arse and DS2 always liked attention but they werent constantly getting into trouble or anything like that

I pulled them up on things and there were consequences. They had detentions and I dealt with things at home. I wasnt just letting them do whatever they wanted and hoping they would grow out of it. They were actually quite likeable boys when they were younger and had friends and things were manageable

Its just got so much worse as theyve got older and now consequences dont seem to bother them. Taking things away doesnt make them suddenly behave. They argue with me about it or just go out anyway and then its another battle

Now it feels like its the 2 of them against me most of the time. They back each other up and egg each other on and if I get one to calm down the other will start something. They arent little boys anymore either so I cant physically drag them upstairs or anything like that

Ive asked for help and tried working with school and other services and nobody seems to actually be able to help me.

You're still saying "they were two cheeky boys", you're minimising their behaviour. If I got a single email or phonecall from the school about my child's behaviour you best believe I would come down on them like a ton of bricks, not just brush them off as "being cheeky"

People can't help you because you've caused this situation. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but it's the reality. I really hope that they naturally mature over time and their lives become better.

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 15:34

DearCritic · 15/09/2026 15:21

Put them both in cadets. If they want electronics, they’ll go to cadets. Ideally a different one for each….
Ideally get them both into sport too.

They needed this years ago. But hopefully it’ll still have some positive impact.

Do they get pocket money? If so, only allow it all homework is done. If not, no pocket money.

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Neither of them have shown any interest in cadets tbh and I dont think forcing them to go would be very productive for anyone. Theyd probably spend the whole time moaning and refusing to join in and Id be back where I started

They did used to play football for the school team. It was behaviour dependent though because they were representing the school when they went to play other schools and tournaments so if they were on report or had been in trouble they wouldnt be allowed to go

DS2 quit after his favourite PE teacher left. He got on really well with him and actually seemed to enjoy football when he was there. DS1 stopped going not long after and said it was only enjoyable when DS2 was there anyway because he wasnt that interested in football himself

I couldnt really force DS1 to keep going because it was after school and he would just leave with DS2 anyway. Looking back maybe I should have tried harder with that sort of thing but at the time I didnt see it as something that would end up being important now

They dont get regular pocket money. I stopped that quite a while ago because they were just using money for things they shouldnt be having anyway

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Bitsostuff · 15/09/2026 16:30

TheJuryIsOut · 15/09/2026 15:27

You're still saying "they were two cheeky boys", you're minimising their behaviour. If I got a single email or phonecall from the school about my child's behaviour you best believe I would come down on them like a ton of bricks, not just brush them off as "being cheeky"

People can't help you because you've caused this situation. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but it's the reality. I really hope that they naturally mature over time and their lives become better.

Not just harsh (don't undersell yourself) but stupid and mean too. Perhaps if you have nothing to offer but smug condemnation backed up by little practical experience you could go drip poison somewhere else?

It is really difficult to deal with one teenager that's going off the rails. When you add in a twin and a self-reinforcing dynamic it becomes almost impossible. Luckily for the OP some people on this thread recognise this and have made helpful suggestions.

Plasmal · 15/09/2026 16:55

Op perhaps it is adhd. Though usually that would be obvious younger.
Do either struggle with sitting still/concentrating/impulsivity?

it maybe worth getting a referral anyway as their behaviour is out of the norm.
especially if dc1 is clever then he should be doing well. Also i thought generally id twins would be similarly intelligent so the fact dc2 struggles more does suggest there is something.

Anyway whilst i am very sympathetic i do think they probably needed more strict parenting even if just to see if they can behave.
i cant imagine having tricky twins. My dc have asd/adhd and when they are together it is even worse than you describe. Just at the weekend both in the back of the car it was relentless! Thankfully they are several years apart.

I think you do need to separate them its doing them no good. Even if its dropping dc2 back a year.

But if they are bottom sets, what are their predictions are they even going to oass maths and English?

PurpleLovecats · 15/09/2026 17:06

OP - where is their dad? I asked before but I haven’t seen an answer.
I would separate them and send one to dad or another family member?

DearCritic · 15/09/2026 17:07

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 15:34

Neither of them have shown any interest in cadets tbh and I dont think forcing them to go would be very productive for anyone. Theyd probably spend the whole time moaning and refusing to join in and Id be back where I started

They did used to play football for the school team. It was behaviour dependent though because they were representing the school when they went to play other schools and tournaments so if they were on report or had been in trouble they wouldnt be allowed to go

DS2 quit after his favourite PE teacher left. He got on really well with him and actually seemed to enjoy football when he was there. DS1 stopped going not long after and said it was only enjoyable when DS2 was there anyway because he wasnt that interested in football himself

I couldnt really force DS1 to keep going because it was after school and he would just leave with DS2 anyway. Looking back maybe I should have tried harder with that sort of thing but at the time I didnt see it as something that would end up being important now

They dont get regular pocket money. I stopped that quite a while ago because they were just using money for things they shouldnt be having anyway

I don’t think it matters if they’ve shown interest. They’re the exact type of boys where cadets could be the making of them. The majority of cadets will be a good influence. Will be great for them. If they want phones, XBOX, etc…. Then they go to cadets. No fighting them, if they don’t go, then no tech. Simple rules.
Do something whilst you still have some control over them.

cutitopen · 15/09/2026 17:18

It does matter if they point blank refuse to go. Tbh, it’s unlikely cadets will make much difference.

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 17:27

Plasmal · 15/09/2026 16:55

Op perhaps it is adhd. Though usually that would be obvious younger.
Do either struggle with sitting still/concentrating/impulsivity?

it maybe worth getting a referral anyway as their behaviour is out of the norm.
especially if dc1 is clever then he should be doing well. Also i thought generally id twins would be similarly intelligent so the fact dc2 struggles more does suggest there is something.

Anyway whilst i am very sympathetic i do think they probably needed more strict parenting even if just to see if they can behave.
i cant imagine having tricky twins. My dc have asd/adhd and when they are together it is even worse than you describe. Just at the weekend both in the back of the car it was relentless! Thankfully they are several years apart.

I think you do need to separate them its doing them no good. Even if its dropping dc2 back a year.

But if they are bottom sets, what are their predictions are they even going to oass maths and English?

I dont really think its ADHD with DS2. Hes always liked attention good or bad and if people laugh or he gets a reaction out of someone thats usually enough for him.

He didnt struggle academically either really. He was in a lower set for some things than DS1 but he wasnt bottom set or anything like that. DS1 was just ahead academically. DS1 liked maths and science and actually wanted to know things whereas DS2 never really enjoyed those subjects as much. He liked PE and music more and especially practical science where he could actually do something rather than sit and write about it

They arent actually the same academically even though theyre identical. I know people assume twins should be similar but theyve always been quite different in that respect. DS2 isnt stupid he just stopped trying more and more and now obviously the behaviour has made it worse

School have DS1 predicted around 4s and 5s at the moment. He should be capable of higher but his effort has really dropped off. DS2 is mostly predicted 3s and 4s Maths and English are both looking like 3s at the moment which is obviously worrying this close to exams

I dont think either of them is going to suddenly start working properly unless something changes

I have wondered about getting DS2 assessed anyway but I honestly think a lot of this is that he likes attention and has learnt that winding people up gets him exactly that. I do agree with you about separating them though. I just dont know what the realistic way of doing that is this late on

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stuckntired · 15/09/2026 17:55

PurpleLovecats · 15/09/2026 17:06

OP - where is their dad? I asked before but I haven’t seen an answer.
I would separate them and send one to dad or another family member?

Their dad isnt involved at all and there isnt anyone else who could have either of them unfortunately. Its just me

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fashionqueen0123 · 15/09/2026 18:14

Don’t waste anymore time. Start calling schools tomorrow.

Monvelo · 15/09/2026 18:19

I'm just thinking about my younger brother and what he was like at this age. He stayed just as bad until the age of 24 when he changed practically overnight. I really clearly remember my shock when I was visiting and he walked into the kitchen and had a proper chat, he was very personable, funny, mature. So i think don't under estimate the role of hormones and brain development. At this stage I think you're in damage limitation. How can they avoid getting kicked out as that will impact their futures. How can they scrape they've GCSEs. What do they want to do after? I think that's the critical thing. Supporting them to find what they want to do next. Then the now might be more if a necessary evil they can just put up with. Good luck op!

RedToothBrush · 15/09/2026 18:51

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 17:27

I dont really think its ADHD with DS2. Hes always liked attention good or bad and if people laugh or he gets a reaction out of someone thats usually enough for him.

He didnt struggle academically either really. He was in a lower set for some things than DS1 but he wasnt bottom set or anything like that. DS1 was just ahead academically. DS1 liked maths and science and actually wanted to know things whereas DS2 never really enjoyed those subjects as much. He liked PE and music more and especially practical science where he could actually do something rather than sit and write about it

They arent actually the same academically even though theyre identical. I know people assume twins should be similar but theyve always been quite different in that respect. DS2 isnt stupid he just stopped trying more and more and now obviously the behaviour has made it worse

School have DS1 predicted around 4s and 5s at the moment. He should be capable of higher but his effort has really dropped off. DS2 is mostly predicted 3s and 4s Maths and English are both looking like 3s at the moment which is obviously worrying this close to exams

I dont think either of them is going to suddenly start working properly unless something changes

I have wondered about getting DS2 assessed anyway but I honestly think a lot of this is that he likes attention and has learnt that winding people up gets him exactly that. I do agree with you about separating them though. I just dont know what the realistic way of doing that is this late on

DS2 has insecurity issues because of DS1. So he dicks about to get DS1 to fail and make himself feel bigger. He is deliberately trying to undermine DS1's confidence. DS1 is being a wet lettuce who is more bothered about image than getting the fuck on with it

Perhaps go in and say it out loud and tell them to prove otherwise.

GreenHuia · 15/09/2026 20:06

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 17:27

I dont really think its ADHD with DS2. Hes always liked attention good or bad and if people laugh or he gets a reaction out of someone thats usually enough for him.

He didnt struggle academically either really. He was in a lower set for some things than DS1 but he wasnt bottom set or anything like that. DS1 was just ahead academically. DS1 liked maths and science and actually wanted to know things whereas DS2 never really enjoyed those subjects as much. He liked PE and music more and especially practical science where he could actually do something rather than sit and write about it

They arent actually the same academically even though theyre identical. I know people assume twins should be similar but theyve always been quite different in that respect. DS2 isnt stupid he just stopped trying more and more and now obviously the behaviour has made it worse

School have DS1 predicted around 4s and 5s at the moment. He should be capable of higher but his effort has really dropped off. DS2 is mostly predicted 3s and 4s Maths and English are both looking like 3s at the moment which is obviously worrying this close to exams

I dont think either of them is going to suddenly start working properly unless something changes

I have wondered about getting DS2 assessed anyway but I honestly think a lot of this is that he likes attention and has learnt that winding people up gets him exactly that. I do agree with you about separating them though. I just dont know what the realistic way of doing that is this late on

What you and the school are trying now isn't working, and no agencies want to help, so try thinking outside the box. I would try to find a couple of men who tended to get into trouble as teens but straightened themselves out as adults, who would be willing to take on a mentoring role. Perhaps a mechanic for DS1 and someone sports related (even just a regular gym member) for DS2, or whatever you think the boys would best respond to. Explain the situation, ask them to take the boys out maybe one weekend day and an evening a week (ideally not the same times for both so they get more of a break from each other), so they can tinker away at a car or go to the gym/box/play football together - offer to pay if necessary and you can afford it. Post on a local Facebook group, ask at school, ask friends or colleagues, whatever it takes. I've worked with a few men who made very questionable choices in their youth and honestly I think they would all want to help younger lads to get back on track.

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 20:25

The HOY rang earlier to tell me how today went with them both being kept separate in isolation

DS2 was in the isolation room and DS1 was in the library meant to be doing some coursework on the computer. Apparently DS1 kept trying to get onto YouTube and was arguing that he needed it for research. He was messing about a bit but he did eventually get on with what he was meant to be doing and SLT checked what hed done and said it was actually a good standard of work

DS2 was completely the opposite. He spent most of the morning complaining about being bored and saying it was unfair that he was in isolation because he hadnt actually done anything. He then walked out and went to find the HOY to argue his case about why he shouldnt be in isolation and why he should be allowed to do PE instead. Obviously he didnt get the answer he wanted so he walked off again and eventually went back into isolation

Apparently he hasnt actually done any work all day. Just complained and argued about being there. I asked what he thought he was supposed to be doing and he just said he was being punished for nothing

The HOY wants another meeting with me now. Im not surprised but I honestly dont know what else we are going to say that we havent already said about them. DS1 at least showed today that he can still actually do the work when he decides to. Thats what makes all of this even more frustrating because I know there is still something there with him

I dont know what they are going to suggest this time but I suppose Ill have to go and find out

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Sussexserpents · 15/09/2026 20:46

If SLT have evidence that ds1 can work to a good standard - perhaps they could suggest he does a managed move to another local school. They could plead his case that he can work well when he wants and he is predicted decent grades already

ACatNamedRobin · 15/09/2026 21:05

RedToothBrush · 15/09/2026 18:51

DS2 has insecurity issues because of DS1. So he dicks about to get DS1 to fail and make himself feel bigger. He is deliberately trying to undermine DS1's confidence. DS1 is being a wet lettuce who is more bothered about image than getting the fuck on with it

Perhaps go in and say it out loud and tell them to prove otherwise.

This OP

Youve got nothing to lose.

Emily3325 · 15/09/2026 21:07

OP could you contact your local police force?

Mookie81 · 15/09/2026 21:11

UnbeatenMum · 14/09/2026 20:33

Have you thought about ADHD at all? It sounds like a good idea to move one but at 15 you need them onside, otherwise you could end up with both of them out of education. Have you discussed it with either of them?

Oh for fuck's sake!!!!

fashionqueen0123 · 15/09/2026 21:19

Move DS2 then. Don’t let DS1 muck up because of his brother. I wouldn’t move him as he may need to redo coursework etc with different exam boards or subjects. Keep him there as it sounds like he can work when needed.
Or DS2 must he put in separate classes from him all of the time. And when he’s behaved he can come out of isolation.

RedToothBrush · 15/09/2026 21:34

stuckntired · 15/09/2026 20:25

The HOY rang earlier to tell me how today went with them both being kept separate in isolation

DS2 was in the isolation room and DS1 was in the library meant to be doing some coursework on the computer. Apparently DS1 kept trying to get onto YouTube and was arguing that he needed it for research. He was messing about a bit but he did eventually get on with what he was meant to be doing and SLT checked what hed done and said it was actually a good standard of work

DS2 was completely the opposite. He spent most of the morning complaining about being bored and saying it was unfair that he was in isolation because he hadnt actually done anything. He then walked out and went to find the HOY to argue his case about why he shouldnt be in isolation and why he should be allowed to do PE instead. Obviously he didnt get the answer he wanted so he walked off again and eventually went back into isolation

Apparently he hasnt actually done any work all day. Just complained and argued about being there. I asked what he thought he was supposed to be doing and he just said he was being punished for nothing

The HOY wants another meeting with me now. Im not surprised but I honestly dont know what else we are going to say that we havent already said about them. DS1 at least showed today that he can still actually do the work when he decides to. Thats what makes all of this even more frustrating because I know there is still something there with him

I dont know what they are going to suggest this time but I suppose Ill have to go and find out

This tells you everything you need to know.

No more dicking about for either of them.

The consequences of their behaviour is they are separated.

DS1 has a choice. Either knuckle down or let his brother fuck him up and then he will forever end up resenting him in the long term. Their relationship will forever broken when he finally wakes up and realises.

DS2 has a choice. He stays in isolation on his own terms or ends up in a different school. He can be a big baby about not getting his own way or he can screw up his own life because of his own insecurities. But he doesnt get given the opportunity to take down his brother too in the process. Because it will eventually break their relationship. His challenge is to knuckle down and prove he's not a waste of space he's demonstrating himself to be which has got fuck all to do with how good or bad he is compared to his brother and has everything to do with his own shitty attitude.

But clearly they need separating and the school seem to be recognising this. Tbh it sounds as if this will be the conclusion they come to in the meeting. I wouldn't be surprised if No2 is given the boot but No1 is given a last chance.

Don't let 2 screw up 1.

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