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Aibu feeling uneasy about men taking little girls to the toilet in the womens toilet?

514 replies

Fasdmama · Yesterday 10:57

I've seen this a few times and I dont know what is the right thing to do.
So the other week we were at the cinema. I took my daughter to the toilet and as I was waiting for her a man came out of a cubicle with a little girl and went to wash her hands.
It got me thinking.
I feel uncomfortable a man in the womens toilet. I understand how you'd potentially feel uncomfortable taking a daughter into the mens toilets.
And the only other option in this situation was the disabled toilet but morally thats wrong.

I dont know what I feel is right in this situation so wanted to know other people's opinions.
So yabu: its right for a man to take girl into female toilets
Yanbu: he should take her somewhere else...but where?

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Blackbookofsmiles1 · Yesterday 10:59

Disabled toilets are often also baby changing rooms or family rooms, meant for this circumstance. He shouldn’t be in the women’s toilets

Mooselander · Yesterday 11:00

We have two girls. My husband takes them into the disabled toilets.

Why on earth would you think that was “morally wrong”? Confused He certainly wouldn’t take them into the women’s.

5foot5 · Yesterday 11:01

I don't see what's wrong with using the disabled toilet in these circumstances. But if that was unavailable for any reason then, on balance, I think it's better he takes her to the ladies than to the gents. Imagine if someone was using the urinals!

MiceSpiders · Yesterday 11:02

It doesn't make sense to me and seems to be coming out of an American movement online. You don't want you daughter around men in toilets so you a man go into the women's toilets where other people's daughters are

PrancingPanda · Yesterday 11:03

Agree @Blackbookofsmiles1 shouldn't be in the womens' loos
Disabled loos a better option
I never took my sons into the mens' loos- I think men might have objected. Not that I'd really want to go in there anyway

Notateacheranymore · Yesterday 11:04

All of the times I have seen it - less than a dozen - he has been 100% engaged in his task, with a young lady CLEARLY too young to manage by herself, and some of them have even apologised for being in the space. I have always said they are fine, and have even stood by the door to let other ladies know as they enter so they can choose to or not. Not one woman has ever turned around and waited till he and his child left.

Maybe where I live is a den of acceptance for this, but the OP’s disapproval or hand wringing is a none event in real life.

OhBotherSaidPoo · Yesterday 11:04

No man should enter a woman's toilet.
Good men stay out so bad men stand out.
By making an exemption for Dad of the Year and his darling princess, by accepting that she might be intimidated by men, we are overriding the feelings of other women and girls who will be intimidated by him.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · Yesterday 11:04

Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

fruitbrewhaha · Yesterday 11:06

If my DP was out with my DDs he would take them into the men’s loo.

Credittocress · Yesterday 11:06

Take her into the family loo or pick her up face into shoulder and take her into a cubicle in the men’s. If you don’t want your daughter around men in a loo, why should every other woman and daughter be subjected to your presence.

What I have also found with the men who do this is they are rarely apologetic or sheepish, they are actually quite bullish, entitled and when challenged a little threatening-the very type who shouldn’t be in women’s spaces

Sirzy · Yesterday 11:07

Children up to about 8 go into the toilet their parent would normally use with them. Or a family room if one is available.

Disabled toilet should only be used if one of the people using the toilet has a disability.

BlueMum16 · Yesterday 11:07

5foot5 · Yesterday 11:01

I don't see what's wrong with using the disabled toilet in these circumstances. But if that was unavailable for any reason then, on balance, I think it's better he takes her to the ladies than to the gents. Imagine if someone was using the urinals!

So he teaches her to look at the floor and not anywhere else. Or wait for the accessible bathroom.

A dad should not be in a female toilet to facilitate his daughter when his presence is impacting all the females also using the bathroom.

Venues need to make more gender neutral/family spaces available. You should have complains OP to the staff rather than accept this.

Icecreamisthebest · Yesterday 11:07

He should take her into the men’s

Daffodilsinthespring · Yesterday 11:08

Absolutely no man should ever be in ladies’ loos. Disabled or gents.

Greenfinch7 · Yesterday 11:08

I don't care which toilet people use, also think men's toilets are ok for little girls. What is the big deal with all of this? There are doors on the cubicles, and we all need to wee and poo, and we are all naked under our clothes.

Mummacake · Yesterday 11:09

Perhaps there wasn't a disabled toilet option? It's tricky as a woman wouldn't necessarily take her young son to the men's toilet but I wouldn't want my young child seeing men at the urinal either.

Definitelygoing · Yesterday 11:09

I thought disabled toilets were now considered as access toilets. My mum would use one if the alternative was using the stairs as she was scared of falling, but she wasn't disabled. No reason why they shouldn't be used for other various reasons.

TreesinthePark · Yesterday 11:10

No little girl should have to go in a men's toilet

AhBiscuits · Yesterday 11:10

I don't like it either. When DH was out with DD he'd take her in the men's. Nothing is going to happen to her with him there with her. I took DS into the ladies while we were out until he was about 7. He's insisted on using the men's alone since then.

RareGoalsVerge · Yesterday 11:12

It's not remotely "morally wrong" for a man to use the accessible loo to take a daughter to the toilet. It's a perfectly legitimate accessibility need because it's not appropriate for them to use either the mens or the womens. Yes this means there is a higher demand for the accessible loos, that doesn't make it wrong, it means that providers should ensure there are more accessible loos. Accessible loos are not just there for people with physical disabilities but for a huge variety of reasons where the normal provision of men's and women's loos don't work. Their provision shouldn't be rationed or guarded but expanded to meet need.

happybug1234 · Yesterday 11:14

Very entitled, should definitely use the disabled toilet or the baby changing toilet.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Yesterday 11:14

Notateacheranymore · Yesterday 11:04

All of the times I have seen it - less than a dozen - he has been 100% engaged in his task, with a young lady CLEARLY too young to manage by herself, and some of them have even apologised for being in the space. I have always said they are fine, and have even stood by the door to let other ladies know as they enter so they can choose to or not. Not one woman has ever turned around and waited till he and his child left.

Maybe where I live is a den of acceptance for this, but the OP’s disapproval or hand wringing is a none event in real life.

My thoughts exactly.

TheOriginalEmu · Yesterday 11:16

I don’t care who uses what toilet for whatever reason. it’s a toilet. the stalls are private. so i just don’t care.

LilyBunch25 · Yesterday 11:18

RareGoalsVerge · Yesterday 11:12

It's not remotely "morally wrong" for a man to use the accessible loo to take a daughter to the toilet. It's a perfectly legitimate accessibility need because it's not appropriate for them to use either the mens or the womens. Yes this means there is a higher demand for the accessible loos, that doesn't make it wrong, it means that providers should ensure there are more accessible loos. Accessible loos are not just there for people with physical disabilities but for a huge variety of reasons where the normal provision of men's and women's loos don't work. Their provision shouldn't be rationed or guarded but expanded to meet need.

Sensible, practical answer 👍 I get vertigo so if toilets are upstairs I have to use, or ask to use, an accessible toilet.

Kingdomofsleep · Yesterday 11:18

My dh takes dd into the men's or into a family changing if there's a loo in there. He would never dream of going into the ladies', he'd feel like it was a creepy thing to do.

My dd is 6 now and can go into the ladies in her own. (It's not much different to going to the loo at school.) I'd be enraged if she was in there and a Dad went in.

Men should not go into the ladies'.

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