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Harrop MPTS Thread 3

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:16

For when the last one fills up

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 25/11/2021 11:17

Thanks :)

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Datun · 25/11/2021 11:32

Placemarking

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Signalbox · 25/11/2021 11:34

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FindTheTruth · 25/11/2021 11:42

Tribunal Tweets
This account will live tweet from Adrian Harrop’s GMC tribunal from 15th November.
twitter.com/tribunaltweets

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BlackandGreen · 25/11/2021 11:43

Thank you so much to everyone. Former Toxteth resident here. Flowers

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WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 25/11/2021 11:45

Placemarking but also Thanks to @Motorina for all the effort you are putting in as it is so very helpful. Also Thanks to @WitnessE, I hope it gives you some small comfort to read how many of us are behind you, and that so many women are feeling so much frustration and anger at what has happened.

Knowing there is a huge amount of women who are so very frustrated and angry on your behalf and we all standing behind you, is perhaps more "comforting" (wrong word sorry) than the flowers?

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:46

he Adrian Harrop Tribunal
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Chair is acting are there any further submissions. RD says GMC encourage panel to consider GMC’s social media guidance, he wants them to keep that in mind.
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GMC invites to assess the tweets as a collective and individually. GMC identifies three tweets that make reference to medical elements, e.g. ‘morning meds’. GMC invites panel to recognise that these tweets would call the medical profession into disrepute.
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GMC is referring to the tweet that states that ‘cis people are awful’. This would undermine (GMC submit) the public’s confidence in medical professionals.
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RD now referring to tweets attempting to intimidate others, the GMC submit are of concern are well below standards expected of a doctor. Whether deleted or not, these tweets were published.
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The GMC invites panel to consider tweets talking about Golf to wind up someone on the opposing side of the debate is not inline with GMC guidance. AH, GMC submit added fuel to the fire. This caused B and his wife to leave their home for a period of time.

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WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 25/11/2021 11:47

FFS I am obviously completely unable to form coherent sentences this morning!

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FlyingOink · 25/11/2021 11:48

Is that their summary of what was found proven, then? And then we get a summary from the defence?

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:50

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Tweets relating to D. August 2019, makes reference to health of person. Any such comments in a public forum are highly inappropriate for a medical professional. Public could believe this to be true because a doctor is saying this. This falls far short of standards expected.
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In relation to E, GMC submits his approach towards E, these tweets alone should relate to misconduct.
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Retweet in March 2019. The GMC submit this language, or the reproducing of the language, would be very likely to bring the professional to disrepute.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:51

@FlyingOink

Is that their summary of what was found proven, then? And then we get a summary from the defence?

No it's the GMC stating their case to the Panel
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Datun · 25/11/2021 11:51

Bloody hell. People don't leave their home because they're not intimidated.

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SpindlesWhorl · 25/11/2021 11:52

AH tweeted that 'cis people are awful'? I thought in his world, he himself would be 'cis'??

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:52

The GMC are not happy with him, that's for sure!

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KittenKong · 25/11/2021 11:53

Come on, come onnnnnnnnnnn.

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picklemewalnuts · 25/11/2021 11:53

Unlurking to say thank you to those following, discussing and translating this.
My brain aches, but I very much appreciate the summaries!

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MrsMargaretBeaufort · 25/11/2021 11:54

Thank you for the new thread

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:54

The Adrian Harrop Tribunal
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Individual tweets added little relevance to the debate [transgender debate].
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GMC submit, in relation to E that the tribunal take into account misconduct. Heated discussion between RD and GP in relation to collective and individual tweets.

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Motorina · 25/11/2021 11:55

@FlyingOink Sort of.

It's a formalised process where the decisions happen in set stages.

So stage one is what facts are found proved. We've had that.

The first part of stage two is "Do these things which have been found proved amount to misconduct". Misconduct is a serious departure from professional standards.

So the GMC is saying, "You found proved that he did these things. We submitt that these failings are a serious departure from professional standards (i.e. are misconduct) because of these reasons". Part of their reasoning is "There are written standards on conduct on social media, which these tweets breached."

The second part of stage two is impairment. The GMC will give their submissions on why they consider Harrop's fitness to practice is currently impaired by that misconduct. I anticipate they will rely on his late insight, his limited insight, the vice article and the luke-warm support of his mentor. Plus the broader public interest/public perception.

The defence will then give their submissions on misconduct and impairment. I anticipate they will agree there was misconduct. I wait with baited breathe for their position on impairment.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:56

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[Speaking more generally now] GMC invites panel to consider the misconduct was repeated on a number of occasions.

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ArabellaScott · 25/11/2021 11:57

Thanks, OP, for posting. Following.

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Personwithrage · 25/11/2021 11:57

Joining the thread

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BoreOfWhabylon · 25/11/2021 11:58

Thanks Motorina your insight is invaluable!

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Redshoeblueshoe · 25/11/2021 11:58

Not looking good for Harrop now

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ArabellaScott · 25/11/2021 11:59

'GMC submit that AH was warned about his conduct, and specially provided with GMC social media guidance. For AH to continue to post, that would significantly undermine public confidence, if he were to return to practice.'

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