Maya Forstater is entitled to her views, but anti-transgender beliefs don’t belong in the workplace

[Trixie78]

I don't even know where to start with the inaccuracies in this article. It's making my blood boil.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/maya-forstater-rowling-trans-b1838137.html

I think this is one of the worst lies......

If Ms Forstater succeeds before the court, a man at work will have the protection of the law to make those statements at work whenever he likes, causing whatever damage he likes to the women he works with.

Sorry

It would also, which perhaps may even concern Forstater, apply not only to beliefs that harm transgender people, but to any controversial belief a person may hold – including, for example, a belief that women are intellectually inferior to men. If Ms Forstater succeeds before the court, a man at work will have the protection of the law to make those statements at work whenever he likes, causing whatever damage he likes to the women he works with.

Let’s not give it clicks. Let’s just ignore and revel in the fact that it’s very likely that tomorrow knowing humans can’t change sex and that sex and gender identity are not the same thing, will be a protected characteristic, and we can’t be fired for it.

What an amazing gift that will be to all the women who’ve been afraid to speak out. Thank you Maya!

Just ignore it. Some people just don't like facts. And that's a fact.

Thank you Maya. ♥️

It's full of lies.

From the first paragraph:
Her view is that transgender women are men and the law should protect her right to say so at work, including if a transgender woman happened to be her work colleague.

What Maya said:
Believing that the material reality of sex is important does not preclude accommodating a person’s wish to not have their biological sex declared or emphasised in official, professional or social situations in situations where their sex does not matter.

hiyamaya.net/sex-and-gender/

Archived here:

archive.vn/mrYc0

The Indie has long since turned into a half online newspaper, half propaganda pamphlet on behalf of its owner's pet projects and causes, hybrid.

"The Central London Employment Tribunal upheld the dismissal after judge James Tayler described her beliefs as 'not worthy of respect in a democratic society'. "

Fuck me, what a bloody insane decision.

@lottiegarbanzo

The Indie has long since turned into a half online newspaper, half propaganda pamphlet on behalf of its owner's pet projects and causes, hybrid.

It saddens me how far The Independent has fallen. It used to be my favourite newspaper.

Previous thread, RobinMoiraWhite wrote,
"I have respectful debates about difficult discrimination concepts and the clash of protected rights virtually every working day. But it won’t be respectful if, when speaking or writing about me, you call me, as a trans woman, ‘he’ or deny my right to use the facilities society has decided I should have, such as my right to use the bathroom of my affirmed gender should I visit premises under your control?

How would that be different to the position adopted by a certain regime in Germany in the 1930’s that black athletes were held to be sub-human and should not be competing against white athletes?

There is an old expression. You make peace with your enemies, not your friends. Society has had to work out how to balance the gay/religious clash, and that is likely always to be uncomfortable as recent news about a school In Birmingham shows.

Trans and gender-critical is a similar clash of diametrically opposed views and we have to find a way to live on the same little island. That won’t happen by either side attempting to deny the existence of the opposing view or treating each other with the contempt, intolerance and confusion between fact and opinion reflected rather too frequently on pages such as these"
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3593037-Weve-never-believed-in-silencing-debate

Me too.

Looking at that article, and the Chicken Little response by trans activists on twitter today, I feel vertigo from the amount of mis- and dis-information that is being relied on.

Seeing how much promoting the gender identity ideology has to rely on lies gives me hope. Especially since when the discussion moves into a forum where the lies cannot be pushed, how tattered and ragged the ideology looks in the sunlight.

Molly Mulready is closely involved with Jolyon Maugham/Good Law Project's 'Trans Defence Fund' and was asked to set up its advisory group. This is primarily concerned with seeking to overturn the Judicial Review findings of Bell Vs Tavistock NHS.

@HermioneWeasley

Let’s not give it clicks. Let’s just ignore and revel in the fact that it’s very likely that tomorrow knowing humans can’t change sex and that sex and gender identity are not the same thing, will be a protected characteristic, and we can’t be fired for it.

What an amazing gift that will be to all the women who’ve been afraid to speak out. Thank you Maya!

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I would rather a man have tbe right to say women are intellectually inferior to men than for him to be sacked for saying so and have his livelihood destroyed. If he can say it then I can argue with him. If he can't say it then his anger and sense of righteousness is likely to destroy us both.

current thread (with accurate commentary of the case)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4228233-Maya-Forstaters-appeal-skeleton

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@TinselAngel

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