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Sandra Forgues: becoming a woman was a victory more profound than the Olympic title

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MrsSnippyPants · 07/01/2019 17:05

Sorry, can’t get the share token to work, maybe someone else can? This might be in the sport section.

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Vegilante · 07/01/2019 17:09

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MrsSnippyPants · 07/01/2019 17:09

“At the core of my being, I have always felt like a woman,” she says. “I have a woman’s mind, but I did not have the body of a woman.”

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 07/01/2019 17:15

If they always felt they where a woman - how exactly did the whole ‘fathering a child’ thing happen then?

AspieAndProud · 07/01/2019 17:17

In order to set up the interview, two armchairs need to be moved from the ground floor to an upstairs conference room. Before she would automatically have lent a hand; now she demurs bashfully as the photographer and I haul them up the staircase.

Good grief.

TimeLady · 07/01/2019 17:21

Maybe the journalist should have had a chat with the ex-wife too.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 07/01/2019 17:23

before she would automatically have lent a hand; now she demurs bashfully as the photographer and I haul them up the staircase

God that's pathetic

littlbrowndog · 07/01/2019 17:24

Haha
Us women so bashfuland demure. 😂😂

LangCleg · 07/01/2019 17:30

Victory over what? Who? This is a telling way to describe transition if you ask me.

Her voice, even by the standards of the female sex, is noticeably dainty and high-pitched.

JFC. That article is written in such purple prose, I believe the Times may be trolling.

DodoPatrol · 07/01/2019 17:31

Hmmmmmm.

Mixed feelings about that one.

The issue of whether trans athletes should be allowed to compete is more nuanced. She admits she could never have fairly transitioned during her career.

But:

she and Frank will be competing again in the French Masters this year, for the first time in the C2 mixed category

HamiltonCork · 07/01/2019 17:32

Just for once I’d like to find out what feeling like a woman actually means.

Doobydoobeedoo · 07/01/2019 17:39

"Colleagues greet her warmly like they have known her for years, which of course they have."

Is the writer having a laugh?

NotMeOhNo · 07/01/2019 17:43

Lord love us, the journalist is posting defensive and spiky replies to comments below the line.

Of course the elephant in the room here can't be mentioned.

Aliceidentifiesasacamel · 07/01/2019 17:45

I should stop reading these. I end up muttering a lot of things I can't repeat because I'd be deleted.

Then I saw the ad below...

Sandra Forgues: becoming a woman was a victory more profound than the Olympic title
KindOfAGeek · 07/01/2019 17:54

Ah yes, another lady who got all kinds of support as a male during her career for performing an approved male role for decades and as a male athletic competitor used her male body to advantage and now wants to tell the world how she was really a woman all along.

How brave and stunning, amirite?

Question: Is thus person short of cash and needs it for a pet project or wish? Rumor is a Vanity Fair cover for a certain other someone was all about paying for a new car......

LangCleg · 07/01/2019 18:00

Lord love us, the journalist is posting defensive and spiky replies to comments below the line.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Someone tell him to write a racy romantic novel. With a writing style like that, he'd be a strong contender for a Bad Sex award for his debut.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 07/01/2019 18:06

I think a lot of these late transitioners confuse being sexually submissive with being female. It's my theory of what's behind all the simpering and the apparent belief that suitors with padded heart shaped boxes of chocolates are going to line up the minute they don a silk blouse.

QuentinWinters · 07/01/2019 18:06

Before, whenever she opened her mouth, the deep pitch of her speech did not match the feminine tenor of her thoughts and feelings.
Wtf is "feminine tenor"? Am I weird? I don't hear my own voice in my head when I'm thinking or feeling Confused

ChewyLouie · 07/01/2019 18:08

Dainty, demure and bashful and too delicate to carry chairs - someone had great fun writing the article. Missed out managing to get swooning into the article, would have been the finishing touch.
I hope the next article is about a 5ft, burly, deep voiced transman who slung the journalist and both armchairs over his shoulder then ran up the stairs without breaking into a sweat.

Bloomcounty · 07/01/2019 18:09

That last paragraph really belongs in a soft porn novel....has the author got a hot spot for the subject, do you think?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 07/01/2019 18:10

more important, what are feminine feelings?

this is totally sexist bullshit isn't it?

I mean I know we all know this. but seeing it in the bloody Times brings it back afresh

ChewyLouie · 07/01/2019 18:10

Padded heart shaped boxes 😂

DubBeGoodToMe · 07/01/2019 18:11

Oh so disappointed to hear that the journalist is posting defensive comments, I was positive he was having a little joke and as a result enjoyed his style immensely.

It’s like he’s writing for Hello! magazine. I’m scowling at him with my dainty features.

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