How does recruitment work from the employers side?

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A question for employers.
how does recruitment works from the employers side and what challenges do employers face.
We know alot about the jobseekwrs side?

Gosh. Standards used to so much higher.

It’s incredibly time consuming and can take 2-3 days x3 out of the team, factoring in the application sifting process, panel interviews, then feedback.

not everyone is perfect in all areas hence the absent minded professor etc people can handle very complex maths , yet struggle to figure out a tablet or computer etc

that i can understand, it just seems recruitment is all rush rush

If you were GCHQ you’d be familiar with civil service recruitment practices and wouldn’t be asking the kinds of questions you’re asking which is quite different from the standard CV format.

im hardly going to use the company playbook when i have my own ideas why would i just copy the company line ? im not a robot, plus we are ment to try to blend in with society rather than talking like a spook etc

I’d say you’re sticking out like a sore thumb right now.

People who don’t do the interview in a bedroom without blurring or using a background.

i could delete my account and then new usename in seconds and add a vpn etc i could be in malta at a cafe on the beech

If they edit it well then I won't know its AI i suppose

thats the thing if they just copy and paste then yes its omg, but if you selectively edit it or use different ai's on different parts, then edit it in theory it should give you good results

I wish wish wish recruiters would filter out people who "don't do tech/aren't good with technology" for computer-based roles. I work with someone who is unable to do really basic tasks (eg. downloading a spreadsheet) and I have to do them for him, every time.

Yea 👍

You’re practically Q.

i just dust the computers and read satellites nothing special,

that i can understand and it goes to my point eariler that you can be good in one area, but not skilled in another area etc

I worked in local government. We only accepted applicaton forms but would expect you to skill match in the personal statement with the person spec and the essential and desirable criteria. We would then score you out of 10 to how you said you met these requirements. Even if your qualifications suggested you met the criteria, we weren't mind readers and you could score a big fat 0 if you didn't mention it in your supporting statement. We'd then add up the scores and choose the top scoring applications and compare these with your colleague who was also shortlisting and then invite people for interview.

That's because by the time you've got approval from 4 layers of HR and your director to recruit someone you're desperate!

Then you end up with 25+ CVs which need reviewing to find a few which seem passable and not like they've been spat out of chat GPT.

And then you need to find time in your diary and your colleague's and a sodding meeting room which isn't a cupboard.

And finally you interview people who bigged up their CV so much you don't believe anything they say after asking them about their 'advanced' excel skills.

No one is enjoying the process recruiter or applicant.

true

Bit like most recruiters 😏

I'm rather warming to the candidates who dare to ask for remote/part remote working. There's clearly a mass demand, and if the labour market is indeed a market then employers also have to adapt if they want the best choice of candidates. There's a noticeable 'shopping list' tendency on this thread, but candidates are people too and once employees it makes sesne to get the best work out of them.

I'm not talking about retail/nursing/plumbing clearly.

For me there is a lot of misplaced entitlement to positions and demands that do not match the reality of their experience. I’m all for people aiming high but you a have to do the job first, prove yourself and then ask for a development path to senior roles.

My biggest challenges:

1. Applicants who have used AI and not tried to edit or disguise it - they’ve literally cut and pasted copy and made zero effort.
2. Applicants who aren’t even close to being qualified for the role but just thought they’d chance their arm. Heaven only knows why.
3. Overseas applicants - even though we clearly state we do not offer visa sponsorship. One tried to disguise it by using a friend’s UK address and then got shirty on the Zoom call when we asked them for proof of right to work in the UK.

Biggest challenge of all is the whole in-person interview process. I always do initial online screening interviews first and from there, shortlist for in-person. I’ve recently had a couple of candidates turn up for interviews, only to turn the job down - turns out they’d already accepted a role elsewhere but just wanted to come and see if we’d make them a better offer. That feels like a big waste of my time.

Not too long ago I also offered a job to someone who then admitted there ‘might be a problem with her references’. Yep, she was right (dismissal from previous job and a conviction for fraud) so then had to withdraw the offer.

Another seemingly great applicant sailed through in-person interview, was offered the job and then announced she was relocating overseas and hoped we’d allow her to work remotely. Nope.

The whole thing is a big disappointing minefield! Having said that, we do occasionally find some wonderful humans who are perfect for the roles on offer. Just have to wade through a lot of disappointment to get there.

num 2 at a guess is because if a person matchs say 60/70 % of the role even if its the transferble skills that can be used in the role rather than having the actual title of the role etc or if you say prefered skills and experience vs essential skills and experience etc these are partly reasons why people chance it

There’s a massive difference between transferable skills and being “not remotely qualified”.

Maybe employers need to wind their necks in a bit and not get too above themselves. One poxy admin job is like every other, they are not that special.
Oh - and put the salary in the advert. only partly tongue in cheek