Accused of posting on someone's LinkedIn. Part 2.

[Bearyhumcrack]

As promised! Second thread.

First thread is here... If you've got a spare day.

I can't believe this is still going on. Good luck with it all!

This is like a two year long ping pong match.

@Bearyhumcrack is there a date that they need to respond to your latest letter by?

Place marking! Sorry...I've been following your last since it started!

Shocked this is still going on

I just read all your posts on your old thread. This is bonkers. WTF are they playing at?

I cannot believe some employers think they can get away with crap like this. It makes me happy that tenacious people like you hold them to account, even though I would obviously much prefer if they just behaved properly in the first place!!

Wow just read your previous thread. Wtf did I read!!! Your HR is incompetent and I do hope your lawyer will rip into them

Just an astonishing level of incompetence displayed by your line manager and HR. Is it public sector by any chance? what a shit show!

Hope it draws to a happy conclusion soon and you get to the bottom of why these people seem to have it in for you.

I have to respond by next Tuesday & I think boss etc will too. Then I think a decision will be made within a few weeks. I'm enjoying writing this letter, picking apart his credibility, without going ad hominem and expressing my surprise and disappointment that someone with "extensive experience" (his words) has failed to apply policy, commons sense, and empathy. Etc. plus the remarkable coincidences and the focus on questioning the veracity of the recording. I genuinely hope this letter gets under his skin (the responses to disclosure are also disclosed).

That was to @MaireadMcSweeney

Holy crap! Good luck!!!

I spent this morning reading OP’s comments on the original thread and I’m up to date now. OP you are amazing for taking on the fight, continuing with it those first few months when your MH was awful, seeing off the union rep and all the while remaining professional and clear in your postings on MN. You’re a real inspiration.
I think I’d like to see Sheridan Smith play you in the Netflix screen adaptation of this saga.

@Bearyhumcrack - I've just read the whole saga from the beginning and I really can't get my head round how your manager's complaint got off the starting block. It was nebulous in the extreme, given your personal account wasn't involved and he didn't even know Linked In from Twitter. How could this have escalated in this way? There's no actual proof of anything, except "he says, she says". I'm absolutely flummoxed at how a company can be managed in this way. It's ridiculous!
I hope it all works out for you, and that you get massive compensation for stress, because the company's behaviour is totally unbelievable and your line manager shouldn't have been given any credence at all in the first place, let alone your being given a written warning from the off. It's outrageous, and hell for you to have to live through it.
I look forward to reading that not only have you been completely exonerated, but that your old line manager has actually been fired.

Actually did a little snort laugh. Thank you.

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom the complaints thing is a little complicated but I actually have three separate ones in against him. One is this one for this specific investigation thing. One is for bullying and one is for sex discrimination. It sounds excessive but that's what the system wants so here we are. It's pissing him off, I can tell by his tone and defensiveness. And that is just fine by me. He's got a long road yet whereas I am in a good place.

Wow I’ve just read through your posts on the first thread. I’d love to say I can’t believe it, but I’ve work in the public sector before… good luck OP, I hope you get closure and that bullying bastard gets a) fired and b) humiliated!

OP you can show they discriminated against you and you MUST claim for it.

You have anxiety which I don't think you realise meets the definition of disability, especially as you have had it for over a year at least. You also mention having made them aware of this but they don't seem to have made any adjustments to help you do your job or to their investigation / disciplinary process to make the experience less anxiety inducing for you.

You're a victim of harassment becuase your boss said "its only anxiety" in an email or something you saw. Harassment is negative behaviour towards someone with a protecte characteristic (which includes disability)

You've experienced victimisation as he's saying you're a liar, criticising your disability and also because they are penalising you for recording your sessions - I used to be a union rep, and I'm disabled, I am sure I have come across tribunal cases where the recordings were permissable as evidence because they evidenced harassment/victimisation/whatever discrimination it was. You could say that due to your anxiety, you record meetings to minimise your anxiety and ensure you fully understand what is happening. They should therefore allow that as an adjsutment.

You've experienced a failure to make reasonable adjustments to help you manage your anxiety at work and also to the process to minimise the anxiety to yourself. As an adjustment they could have kept you better informed during their investigation etc, undertaken it quicker and also allowed you to record.

So three areas of discrimination at least. I don't know if you still have a union rep and/or a lawyer but you definitely need to get onto them. Also try the formal grievance website.

I am with @MountedbyHarryWindsor about being able to link it to your medical condition under the Equality Act

Having been in a similar position to you (public sector, bullied by male boss, made more ill than I was, dragging on for years) and taken my boss to two tribunals, nothing surprises me anymore, but I am still sorry to hear what you have been through. Won the first two but looks like I might be forced into a third now, as return from mat leave has been horrific🙄not what I want or need at all, but being forced into a corner again

You sound like you are able to be detached and appreciate the fuckedupness of the whole thing, which is great and v necessary.

@MountedbyHarryWindsor [snigger] thank you. Yes I keep forgetting the anxiety being a disability thing. Coming up to 2 years now. Thank you for the reminder and the other points, really useful. I'm incredibly grateful for the time you took to write that so clearly.

I'm on AL this week but will have another look at your points next week & work out what I will do next.

Completely agree with @MountedbyHarryWindsor

Another one that has followed from the start. Rooting for you

Still rooting for you. Hoping February brings you some good news

What a saga indeed. You've remained clear, rational and focussed, whereas this sham of a manager has been anything but.

Im pleased you haven't gone down the route of constructive dismissal. You can kiss goodbye to a further 2 years of your life (at least) if you went down that route with no guarantee of success. You've played a strong hand by staying put and continuing to maintain that you have done nothing and that he has made false unfounded accusations against you. Not knowing that Twitter and LinkedIn are two different platforms is incompetent in the extreme!

good luck, I think it sounds like your only satisfaction would be to force a resignation (stranger things have happened...). You're unlikely to get compensation for the pain barrier you've been through, but sometimes knowing you played everything brilliantly and with dignity is reward enough

Thank you for the continued support! I'm just sitting and waiting at the moment. Will update as soon as anything changes

Holy hell I remember the original posts about this! Can't believe it's still going! Hope it all works out for you OP, it sounds ridiculous.

I remember reading your first thread ages ago when I was poorly, it was so batshit that I lost the best part of a day reading the whole thing!

Another one absolutely cheering you on OP.

How’s it all going OP?