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Therese Coffey 'Nurses can leave if they want to'

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queeniegee · 15/10/2022 08:06

I for one as a nurse will be voting for industrial action. Therese Coffey 'we will just get nurses from abroad if our nurses choose to leave' beggars belief and shows her utter contempt for nurses AND patients reflecting this government's stance on the general population of this country. They are the nastiest party I remember in living memory. Any nurses out there? What's the consensus?

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Babyroobs · 15/10/2022 18:30

LadyWithLapdog · 15/10/2022 18:18

@Babyroobs you say you saved on childcare by doing nights and weekends. When the reality for many is not that they save the money, but it’s the only way they can afford to live and have kids.

Well yes exactly. If I had not been a Nurse when my kids were young I could not have worked at all as we had four and childcare costs would have been extortionate.

Babyroobs · 15/10/2022 18:36

OldEnoughToHaveReadBunty · 15/10/2022 12:03

Spent much time working on a ward in an NHS hospital recently? Conditions are unsafe for everyone - staff and patients alike. Nurses have every right to make noise about that. Somebody needs to!

They were unsafe back in the late eighties when I started Nursing. I still have nightmares about some of the terrible situations I was put in as a student Nurse and later as a qualified Nurse. I honestly don't think things will ever change. In my current role I deal with older people ad just this week have had a couple of older close to tears on the phone at the way their wives had been neglected in hospital recently. I don't blame the Nurses, it's just an impossible situation.

Realityloom · 15/10/2022 18:42

@Babyroobs how long ago did you nurse? Because on the old contracts you could manage to request flexi working and secure all the school holidays off on those contracts. Working nights and weekends with kids isn't practical and it can be unhealthy it's you who seems to have forgotten this. Doing shifts nights and days in the same week and that's your response that nurses only do 3 shifts some weeks????

Have a word with yourself.

Babyroobs · 15/10/2022 18:48

Realityloom · 15/10/2022 18:42

@Babyroobs how long ago did you nurse? Because on the old contracts you could manage to request flexi working and secure all the school holidays off on those contracts. Working nights and weekends with kids isn't practical and it can be unhealthy it's you who seems to have forgotten this. Doing shifts nights and days in the same week and that's your response that nurses only do 3 shifts some weeks????

Have a word with yourself.

No one I worked with ever had flexi contracts or term time contracts !!!

borntobequiet · 15/10/2022 19:43

My mother trained as a nurse in the 1930s. It has never been a low skill profession. Her training was rigorous and demanding, requiring a high level of education. I still have her textbooks and manuals. Senior nurses had a great deal of autonomy on the wards and were respected and sometimes deferred to by doctors.
However in those days, before the advent of reliable contraception, very few nurses stayed in the profession after marriage as it would have been impossible to work even part time and bring up children. My mother left, and only did voluntary work once my brothers and I were at school.

Nurses are woefully paid and disgracefully treated nowadays and I support them in any industrial action they decide to take. I’d say that Therese Coffey is a vile excuse for a human being, but I’m not too sure of the human bit.

ancientgran · 15/10/2022 21:14

Babyroobs · 15/10/2022 17:54

People harp on about Nurses working 12 hour shifts but forget to mention that when doing 12 hour shifts they will get four days off a week for 2 weeks out of 3. Yes the shifts are gruelling but unless you are working overtime, you are not doing any more hours than anyone else working full time. I left Nursing and now work 9-5 every week day with a 45 minute awful commute that I never had when I started Nursing shifts at 7.30 am, and it is just as tiring as doing 3 x 12 hour shifts a week. Also I was a Nurse we saved huge amounts on not having to pay much for childcare as I worked nights and weekends, it was gruelling but suited a family with young kids. I'm not saying 12 hour shifts are easy but just that other working patterns can also be very challenging in different ways.

Yet with all those advantages you left.

BellaCiao1 · 15/10/2022 22:44

The view seems to be that nurses and teachers don't have it so bad and shouldn't strike because everyone else has it bad too.

I think the recruitment crisis in both professions tells you all you need to know. However, this government is more concerned with attracting more bankers to London.

The bankers won't help if your child needs medical attention or if they're falling behind at school.

walkingonsunshinekat · 16/10/2022 15:52

Yes of course other people work hard, pay debt, pay parking, work shifts..... but very very few of those jobs will save someone's life or look after a terminally ill parent or your child.

Thats why they should be paid more.

Seems to me Coffeys remark was designed to encourage them to strike, handy diversion for this corrupt Govt.

Holidayexpert · 18/10/2022 14:32

I’ve just found out that Therese Coffey is 50!! Sweet Jesus, she looks much much older!! i’m shocked!
Her health problems will be huge if she looks like that at 50!
Hope she’s not going to be a drain on nhs resources😮

ancientgran · 18/10/2022 16:22

Holidayexpert · 18/10/2022 14:32

I’ve just found out that Therese Coffey is 50!! Sweet Jesus, she looks much much older!! i’m shocked!
Her health problems will be huge if she looks like that at 50!
Hope she’s not going to be a drain on nhs resources😮

Think of how bad it is for me. I'm old enough to be her mother! I just can't work out how that could have happened. Something has gone wrong somewhere with the cosmic clock.

borntobequiet · 18/10/2022 16:48

ancientgran · 18/10/2022 16:22

Think of how bad it is for me. I'm old enough to be her mother! I just can't work out how that could have happened. Something has gone wrong somewhere with the cosmic clock.

Me too. I can’t believe I’m older than Farage either. To me they both seem like the sort of adults I detested when I was young, with the same callous, obnoxious behaviour and beliefs.
I think of them both as about 20 years older than me, which would make them 90-ish.

ancientgran · 18/10/2022 19:01

borntobequiet · 18/10/2022 16:48

Me too. I can’t believe I’m older than Farage either. To me they both seem like the sort of adults I detested when I was young, with the same callous, obnoxious behaviour and beliefs.
I think of them both as about 20 years older than me, which would make them 90-ish.

Yes 90ish is about right. It is very strange isn't it.

PrestonNorthHen · 25/10/2022 18:33

Thank god she is gone and Steve Barclay is back
I don't think RS is going to tolerate the embarrassing crap these types come out with.

MissyB1 · 25/10/2022 19:18

PrestonNorthHen · 25/10/2022 18:33

Thank god she is gone and Steve Barclay is back
I don't think RS is going to tolerate the embarrassing crap these types come out with.

Has she definitely gone? Dh and I were just trying to work it out, as it looks like she’s still in the cabinet? Has she got a new role?

PrestonNorthHen · 25/10/2022 21:11

She's gone from Health hence the reference to Steve Barclay who has returned to the post he held prior, she also lost Deputy PM.

She's still in the cabinet -Environment.

walkinginsunshinekat · 25/10/2022 21:52

Barclay will prove to be no friend to the NHS, he is a far right brexitier, so together with Braverman, will not want foreign workers coming here.

PrestonNorthHen · 25/10/2022 22:08

walkinginsunshinekat · 25/10/2022 21:52

Barclay will prove to be no friend to the NHS, he is a far right brexitier, so together with Braverman, will not want foreign workers coming here.

That supply of nurses is slowing anyway as the mass migration of nurses is causing serious issues for those countries.
The Phillipines has stopped it and Zimbabwe, Ghana, Nigeria all making it prohibitively expensive.
I wouldn't consider any Tory a friend to the NHS but TC was goady and a complete disgrace.
Most of my colleagues have left the NHS to go private, we work in a niche area with sought after skills and currently it's name your price !

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