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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Thrown off Hinge

139 replies

Justwrong68 · 09/09/2023 12:49

I saw a trans woman on my hinge feed with a photo of them holding a "terf tears" cup. I messaged that they should ditch the offensive cup if they want a date. The convo started and I said I wasn't trans exclusionary or radical but didn't think it possible to change sex. I was subjected to the usual aggression and condescension plus links to books about trans journeys. I said I didn't need education on the subject but I sincerely wish you well. This morning I couldn't log in, my account was shut down and was given a link to appeal.
I've emailed to say I've been removed without warning or notification.
They're allowed to kick off whoever they like I assume but is there anything I can do? Surely people on Hinge have varying beliefs...

OP posts:
StripeySuperNova · 09/09/2023 13:03

Someone's had a glitch posting a new thread! This is the third one now.😁

Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:22

Why confront them? The pool of people willing to date them is self limiting anyway. I think you were in the wrong. People are allowed to believe what they want.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/09/2023 13:24

People are allowed to believe what they want

Indeed they are. Including the OP when she says 'didn't think it was possible to change sex.' Which it isn't.

Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:25

Exactly, but why go antagonising someone who believes the opposite?

Justwrong68 · 09/09/2023 13:25

Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:22

Why confront them? The pool of people willing to date them is self limiting anyway. I think you were in the wrong. People are allowed to believe what they want.

because I should be able to confront anything I find offensive, i didn't have them chucked off...

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Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:28

Confront what you want, get banned. Seriously it's fine to be gender critical I am too, it's not your right to assert your views on random people though. They are allowed to not agree with you.

MermaidEyes · 09/09/2023 13:30

StripeySuperNova · 09/09/2023 13:03

Someone's had a glitch posting a new thread! This is the third one now.😁

There's actually 4 😬

Ascendant15 · 09/09/2023 13:30

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 09/09/2023 13:24

People are allowed to believe what they want

Indeed they are. Including the OP when she says 'didn't think it was possible to change sex.' Which it isn't.

Sorry - the OP was being deliberately goady. Seems they are being here too with the number of posts about this event. She was excluded, I would assume, because she was going out of her way start a bunfight, and not for her beliefs. If you don't want to date someone on a dating site, don't contact them, and don't then start a deliberate argument with them.

donquixotedelamancha · 09/09/2023 13:30

If they don't respond, OP, submit a subject access request.

Assuming they are rejecting your custom because of your political views, I would be tempted to at least consider legal avenues of redress.

Jaxhog · 09/09/2023 13:31

Surely the response to a post you don't agree with is to present a counterargument? Not to flounce off and get the poster banned!

ToughFuss · 09/09/2023 13:33

I’d argue it was a bit bloody daft to go looking for an argument here, they showed what sort of person they are with the offending photo, did you expect anything other than dramatics and attempts to ban you?

Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:33

Tbh transphobic gets chucked about a lot, this is actually transphobic though. Get a grip.

Insommmmnia · 09/09/2023 13:34

It's a dating app not twitter

You don't have to present a counter argument when someone has decided to message you for non dating purposes on a dating app

And whilst I think the OP should have reported the photo as offensive to Hinge, unless there is evidence that TRAs messaging GC people out of the blue for non dating purposes are not banned then there are no legal avenues of redress.

Froodwithatowel · 09/09/2023 13:35

<Shrug> If you see a picture on a dating feed that's racist, or homophobic, or as in this case prejudiced and unpleasantly misogynistic, you're probably going to think that person's a twit and move on by. Why try and start arguing with them? And why be surprised when they don't respond well?

donquixotedelamancha · 09/09/2023 13:39

unless there is evidence that TRAs messaging GC people out of the blue for non dating purposes are not banned then there are no legal avenues of redress.

That depends on the reason given for the ban.

I completely agree that OP should have just reported the mug and not messaged the owner but if the instaban is purely because of views expressed then there might be some legal recourse.

There have been a few organisations recently who were quite willing to openly admit to discriminating or who've discussed doing so in info released by an SAR.

Insommmmnia · 09/09/2023 13:45

Well yes if they openly admit it's because of GC views then potentially but I think it's much more likely that its because she messaged someone for non dating purposes that they have banned her

They list the possible reasons for banning users as

Harassing, upsetting, embarrassing, alarming or annoying other users

So essentially the OP has broken the terms of use by messaging someone for non dating purposes in a way that has potentially annoyed them.

Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:45

Justwrong68 · 09/09/2023 13:25

because I should be able to confront anything I find offensive, i didn't have them chucked off...

Well exactly confront random people, get banned. You u sound like a muppet. It's fine to dislike an idealogy, not fine to harrass random people.

Justwrong68 · 09/09/2023 13:48

I am facetious, but I was clear I'd like a discussion in my message, I was polite whilst keen for a chat about it. I kind of regret it now but that's not the point. I dipped my toe in and now the reality of cancel culture has hit me. I've used their email facility for "appealing", so I'll see what they say.
Unless you've been hiding under a rock you'll know the issue here is that denying the ideology is punishable, the action of which doesn't adhere to a democratic system.

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PorcelinaV · 09/09/2023 13:50

I think it would have been better not to get involved with them.

Just post a picture holding a cup, "trans activist tears".

Or I don't know, "lesbians don't have penises".

You probably still get banned of course.

Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:51

Seriously you did not need to engage with that person. You are bringing a terrible name to gender critical people. I guess tolerance is not your middle name.

Insommmmnia · 09/09/2023 13:51

Unless you've been hiding under a rock you'll know the issue here is that denying the ideology is punishable, the action of which doesn't adhere to a democratic system.

Absolutely this is undeniably an issue

But this isn't necessarily what transpired here

It could be that hinge deletes every account that harrassess and annoys other members for non dating purposes irrespective of the principles on which they are doing so because doing so specifically breaks the terms of use.

And since when does a commercial business need to be democratic?

A dating app that actively bans users who harass and annoy other users is actually better for women anyway as they are more likely to be on the receiving end of this behaviour

Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:54

Even kiwifarms has a policy of "don't poke the cow" you really need a look at yourself.

greengobbledygook · 09/09/2023 13:55

Believing that people cannot change sex is trans exclusionary.

MargotBamborough · 09/09/2023 13:57

Whilst I agree with you in principle, OP, if you started the conversation then you kind of walked into that one. People have pictures like that in order to be provocative. You rose to the provocation and then they reported you and had you kicked off, which is exactly why they posted that picture in the first place.

PorcelinaV · 09/09/2023 13:57

Calistano · 09/09/2023 13:51

Seriously you did not need to engage with that person. You are bringing a terrible name to gender critical people. I guess tolerance is not your middle name.

Oh please, it's not a crime to speak to someone.

Yes they should probably have ignored them, but if you want to attack people over their beliefs on a dating site, is that really the place?