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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Good things about being a feminist

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sethstarkaddersmum · 03/07/2010 13:33

I'll start.

  1. Less painful feet
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Takver · 22/07/2010 15:14

Thats very true - perhaps an alternate way to see it, I think, is that a lot of 'modern conveniences' are a way of denying sexism within the family - trying to make the problem go away rather than confronting the issue of the way work is shared.

threelittlepebbles · 22/07/2010 15:16

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notenoughsocks · 22/07/2010 15:21

Thanks, pebbles, for that. Also - - forgot that one, - about seeing sexism EVERYWHERE.

Takver, I think the thing about feminism is that it is such a broad broad church - one feminist can completley contradict another and still both be feminists (IMHO). On the plus side, I like to think this is cos we are an open minded bunch and still working stuff out for ourselves. On the negative side, the bickering sometimes does sometimes do my head in.

Anyhow, enough of the difficulties now. Sorry to have done this on a 'best of' thread.

Best thing for me is that as I understood more about feminism I came to see the world in a compleltelty new light. Yes, it has made me quite annoyed, but also much more comfortable with me and confident about who I am (don't mean to sound so sickly but there it is).

blackcurrants · 22/07/2010 16:18

I know what you mean about the completely new light, notenoughsocks - for me, one of the best things about being a feminist was realising that no, I wasn't bonkers - the world WAS actually stacked against women, because we live in a patriarchy. It was a relief to know I wasn't going mad

sprogger · 22/07/2010 16:21

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SkaterGrrrrl · 22/07/2010 17:18

Welcome to the feminism folder socks!

I'm about to have my first baby and am very interested to see how it affects the balance of power in our relationship, with me not earning for a year & whether the household chores will fall to me.

SkaterGrrrrl · 22/07/2010 17:24

More good things about being a feminist: Following on from sprogger's post, treating the men in my life equally and having high expectations of them.

This includes not damaging DH with stereotyped expectations of how he should behave or what he should be. Knowing if DC1 is a son I won't damage him with any of that "Boys don't cry" gendering nonsense.

blackcurrants · 22/07/2010 17:45

SkaterGrrrrl that's exactly the position I'm in, too - I'll be interested to hear about your experiences. I've found having a feminist-allied DH is enormously useful, in terms of the kind of support I've had during the pg, and the kind of birth I and we want for the PFB... I've heard a lot of people moan about how their DH just doesn't get it, and what can you expect from men, eh - and I think: well you can expect them to be reasonable human beings, can't you? It amazes me how few people see just how bad the patriarchy is for men!

notenoughsocks · 22/07/2010 19:57

Good luck SkaterGrrrl. I must admit, it has been a challenge - the hormones made everything a bit more 'exciting' too. I remember being all unexpectedly gooey feeling over my new DS, and there was a bit of me looking on thinking 'gosh - you are a staunch feminist trainee historian in your other life - what has happened to you?'.
Be gentle on yourself is the best advice I can think of.
Blackcurrents is right. I don't know if you have a partner, but if they are 'feminist allied' it helps enourmously.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 22/07/2010 22:44

Good luck to both of you with the impending babies!

Yeah, I never expect my DP or male firends/family to "man up".

On the bad things list can we put having a full-scale row because my DP unthinkingly used "irrational" to describe my view on something we were disagreeing on. At least I was able to explain why using a word like that cut me to the quick.

Blackduck · 23/07/2010 05:42

Oh yes, Elephants -irrational or emotional really make me

Sakura · 23/07/2010 06:53

Takver totally agree about what you said about modern conveniences as a way of covering up sexism in a relationship. The same goes for hiring a cleaner in many cases. SOme men (not all) don't mind which woman is cleaning up after them, as long as they're not doing it themselves.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 23/07/2010 11:02

Yes I also meant to say that's a better way of putting it takver. I mean, there's a reason why all the chemical kitchen/bathroom crap is marketed at all those lucky ladies out there.

swallowedAfly · 23/07/2010 14:03

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wastingaway · 23/07/2010 14:18

Someone start a thread on the eco-parenting/modern convenience and womens work please?
I've been thinking about it a lot and would like a big discussion.

swallowedAfly · 23/07/2010 14:19

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wastingaway · 23/07/2010 14:21

I can't think straight.

wastingaway · 23/07/2010 14:21

All right. I'll do it.

swallowedAfly · 23/07/2010 14:26

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