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Trans identifying people gaslight their parents - a heartbreaking read.

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Soontobe60 · 28/10/2026 06:58

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This broke my heart to read. The impact a child who chooses to declare themselves the opposite sex has on their mother in particular is brutal. I cannot imagine a world where my children would demand that I change my own history to bow to their indoctrination.

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Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 18:49

The fact my son is trans is probably the least interesting thing about him.

My view is that parents of trans children do think it is the most interesting thing about them. And indeed the most interesting thing about themselves as the parent of a trans child. They define themselves as the parent of a trans child first and foremost.

BackToLurk · 28/10/2026 18:51

Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 18:49

The fact my son is trans is probably the least interesting thing about him.

My view is that parents of trans children do think it is the most interesting thing about them. And indeed the most interesting thing about themselves as the parent of a trans child. They define themselves as the parent of a trans child first and foremost.

There's a lot of 'main character syndrome' in certain posts.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 28/10/2026 18:51

PollyNomial · 28/10/2026 16:51

I dislike cosmetic surgery for reasons other than repairing damage but I wouldn't go so far as to grieve if any of my family had it - suggest keeping a sense of proportion.

Do you dislike cosmetic surgery for reasons of wanting to look more like the other sex?

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 19:06

Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 18:45

Is he ND?

Nope. He was tested as it's in the family. His brothers are, and aren't trans.

Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 19:10

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 19:06

Nope. He was tested as it's in the family. His brothers are, and aren't trans.

And yet you say on a recent thread “all my sons are neuro divergent”

You adjust the detail to fit your view

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 28/10/2026 19:10

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 18:29

When I was younger, I told my brother off for using a homophobic slur and said: you do realise gay people don't choose to be gay?

He was about 14, and astounded by this. Talking mid-90s. It altered his world in an instant.

I said this in front of several of his male friends. One of them was gay, and later felt able to talk to my brother about it. My brother was eventually best man at his wedding.

Trans children are now in the same position that friend was. Afraid to come out, afraid of their parents and how wider society will treat them. Coping with ridiculous myths about how being LGBT is a lifestyle choice.

There's nothing any parent can do to alter their child being trans, but parents are all-powerful in their children's lives. It's up to them whether they wish to make their child's pain and fear worse - and lose their child's trust in the process.

It really doesn't matter what you think. Being trans is real, and no matter how much angry, abusive, infantilising language you use, trans people.will continue to be born - in tiny numbers, scattered across the world.

The road towards coming out is usually long, can have twists and turns - but is always hard-going. Being an out trans person isn't a casual decision at all, and a parent choosing to be abusive and controlling in that situation will not have the slightest effect on their identity.

Parents who not only fail their children but whinge publicly about how their child's identity affects them are abusing their power. It's pathetic, and shows the parent to be a narcissist. Children are not possessions, owe their parents nothing and deserve respect.

... owe their parents nothing ...

I owe my parents respect. They earned my respect, though there have been times when they have been ridiculous and we've ended up laughing about it (and vice versa!). And I have a responsibility to them in their old age. I really don't like the society we seem to have become. So self centred and unable to take responsibility.

Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 19:12

BackToLurk · 28/10/2026 18:51

There's a lot of 'main character syndrome' in certain posts.

Agreed

I suspect in RL people around them are desperate to discuss anything but their trans child because it dominates conversations

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 19:17

Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 19:10

And yet you say on a recent thread “all my sons are neuro divergent”

You adjust the detail to fit your view

If so, thats a typo. My older son has autism & ADHD, my middle son is autistic.

Look, and you'll see I've said this many times.

What exactly is your point here?

FrippEnos · 28/10/2026 19:18

Twoallbeepattiesspecialsaucelettucecheesepickles · 28/10/2026 07:43

So cis women 'pretend' to be women & cis men 'pretend' to be men?

Huh.

No, cis women pretend to be cis and cis men pretend to be cis.

you were very close.

Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 19:19

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 19:17

If so, thats a typo. My older son has autism & ADHD, my middle son is autistic.

Look, and you'll see I've said this many times.

What exactly is your point here?

Uh, yes I am neurodivergent. (So are all my sons. Very common within my family.)

a typo. Right

FrippEnos · 28/10/2026 19:19

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 16:24

This is such nonsense. Your child remains your child, however they identify.

Here's my story.

My child approached me, early teens, at night, looking very fearful and worried, saying they had something to tell me. A thousand awful scenarios went through my head before he said: "I'm trans."

Can't actually describe the relief, because I thought he was going to report abuse or something equally awful.

And I realised something important: he was terrified of my reaction. I held his whole future in my hands at that moment. I have never been more conscious of the absolute power a parent has over their child - to buoy them up or hurt them, give them protection or reject them.

Yes, a child can have certain emotional pull over their parent when they're older - but not, when they are a child depending on you for care, control. Iwas holding not only his happiness and self-worth in my hands, but his future as well.

I can't describe how scared he was in that moment - and so many trans people experience the same.

I'm a childhood abuse survivor. I know what it's like when an adult you trust removes your sense of safety and happiness. I felt that power in my hands and heart, so much that it hurt me. And I realised: I didn't want it. In fact, I hated knowing I had ir. I could have done anything to him in that moment, and it would define our relationship.

So, I hugged him. I told him that we loved him no matter who he was, and always would. I said I didn't know anything about being trans and would have to learn.

The discussions began later, the next day. Was he sure he wasn't just a masculine-presenting woman? I worried about things I'd read about fertility. So he explained about how it felt to be trans, that he preferred a feminine presentation anyway and that he wasn't sure if he wanted to have kids, he was a teenager! About surgery being banned for teens. And so much more.

I later read about trans children, and the experiences of trans people. I followed trans people on social media, and tentatively posted about it.

Dozens of accounts began to pile on mine, bots and trolls reacting to the word 'trans' and I realised that there was a huge, entirely ignorant anti-trans community who virulently hated trans people. And I began to see why he'd been so afraid.

In the weeks after, as he talked about a new name and we got used to calling him by his new pronouns, I noticed a massive and quite humbling change in him. He stopped pretending to be a girl and relaxed into his real self - and it was obvious this was who he had been all along. I watched him visibly brighten, become more confident and realised he had been hiding so much from me.

I realised the person he was, was nothing like me. He wasn't a girl. He was a trans boy. While still being exactly the same person.

Lots of other people who had known him before were fearful of how to treat him and wary of giving offence. Until they realised he's exactly the same kid, just more honest about who he is. Everyone - his grandmother, born in the 1940s, included - just adapted.

The transphobic school bullying came later, and darkened our lives. I'm not sure how he would have got through it without our support.

Any parent who centres themselves when their child comes out, is a narcissist and an abuser. Desiring to control your child above respecting them, is deeply abnormal. I'm astounded by the vanity and selfishness displayed by parents who do it. Especially those fixated on their child's body. No change my son could make to himself would alter my love for him. He's still a very ardent feminist, we still talk about misogyny and it's many effects.

The fact my son is trans is probably the least interesting thing about him. It doesn't affect his life anything like as much being autistic and deaf affects his brother's. But they have one thing in common: the angry, entitled and violent behaviour of people who don't like difference.

Because he experienced bullying from a young age, my deaf son hides who he is. He lip-reads to a very high standard and just doesn't tell many people he's deaf. Worries me to death because it means he doesn't wear his hearing aids when he walks through town - I've pulled him out of the path of a car twice. But he fears encountering ignorant bullying again.

My trans son can't hide who he is. He is socially transitioned and everyone knows this. He's visibly androgynous, and gets all kind of angry reactions - almost all from men - demanding to know "what you are". Although he has a very full life, working and studying, with many friends, he knows he is at permanent risk from those who hate trans people. There are many of them.

I think sometimes about how he survived school. How he used to refuse to attend, sometimes for weeks, for fear of being attacked or sexually assaulted again. How his teachers intervened, and gay teachers volunteered to walk the corridors with him to give protection. How there was no protection at all on the school bus.

I think about how he survived it because of our absolute and unwavering support for him. How he'd come home desperate for me to hug and reassure him after a day of exhausting hypervigilance.

But that came naturally to me. No way was I ever going to have him go through what I did, lonely and suicidal with no one to talk to at home and feeling unsafe. Any parent who rejects their child for who they are, and makes it all about them, is a monster.

I want him in my life, but more than that I'm not an abusive person. I have since learned that this isn't a common reaction, and that many trans teenagers are ostracised, rejected and often thrown out of home. I know three young trans women who were all told they needed to leave home when they went to university. None of them have parental support. I know how much that hurts them, and how permanently broke they are because of it.

I can't ever imagine treating a child like that, because who my child is doesn't define me. I wouldn't care if he detransed tomorrow (which is deeply unlikely, but whatever), that's his business. What I care about, is the unbridled anger directed at people like him. To know that it's their .parents doing it, is unspeakable.

That is very close to being believable.

MostlyHoldingItTogether · 28/10/2026 19:26

The world is going bonkers and children should not be able to make these decisions until their fully grown adults! People who have transitioned as adults have later went on to have regrets about transitioning.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 19:30

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 19:17

If so, thats a typo. My older son has autism & ADHD, my middle son is autistic.

Look, and you'll see I've said this many times.

What exactly is your point here?

I don't have a 'view'. My son is trans, full stop. If he was ND and trans that wouldnt be a surprise - autistic people are far more honest about gender identity than neurotypicals. But he isn't.

It also wouldnt affect how much support and love I have for him. So what if he was autistic?! Several of my family are, including two doing Masters degrees, one with LD who can't work and another who's a successful local councillor.

Being neurodivergent isn't a personal failing, indicator of intelligence or anything else. All autistic people are individuals and capable of making their own decisions.

I don't do ableism, transphobia or any other form of bigotry. Attempting to 'explain' normal human diversity is such weird behaviour.

And treating posts on a forum (where people make mistakes and typos all the time) like we're in court is very odd behaviour. I've consistently said my older sons are ND and he isn't, but have probably made all kinds of other errors - it's part of having cPTSD. Have fun with that now, Poirot.

nutmeg7 · 28/10/2026 19:31

Lor63 · 28/10/2026 14:18

I haven't RTFT - I will go back and do so shortly - I just wanted to say that I am currently in this exact situation with DD. A couple of months ago she announced out of nowhere she was trans. In the space of a few weeks our relationship has combusted. She stormed out of the house to live 100s of miles away in a 'polycule' with three other trans people (they supply her hormones) and is taking drugs and doing sex work.

We were so close right up until earlier this year when she met a group of people online and they seemed to completely consume her. Everything was about them. She ended a 3yr relationship and left her job which she loved. She was due to start a master's and buy a car and was saving for a deposit to buy her own flat. All gone. We are barely in contact because I told her I was worried about her and that was me being unsupportive and bigoted. And if I couldn't support her she couldn't speak to me.

I love her so much and I can't eat or sleep and am off sick from work. I am powerless to help her and I miss her so much I feel as if my heart is breaking. She is destroying her health and her life and unless I support her in doing so, she will have nothing to do with me.

Christmas was our favourite time of year. Last year was wonderful, we both said it was our best one ever. This year I can't bear to even think about it. It's her birthday next month and I can't even send her a card. Last year we had a night away together and it was lovely. How can things change so much, so quickly?

I just love her and miss her so much. I want to I give her a cuddle and do the things we used to. I still call her name as if I'm calling her for dinner when nobody else is home. I feel as if I have to because I it's the only way I can keep her name, and the her I knew, alive. I don't ever want her name to feel unused and strange when I say it so I say it to myself all the time. At home, when I'm walking, in the shops, especially places we loved going together.

Anyone else going through this, I send you all my love and strength 💐

Sending you so much love and hugs. There is nothing like the pain of fearing losing a child even when they are adults.

Please ignore the TRAs on this thread, you do not owe them your time or mental energy at the moment.

PollyNomial · 28/10/2026 19:34

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/10/2026 16:59

Your attempt to play down the unnecessary mutation that's involved in 'transing' and your attempt to dismiss and demean other people's concerns about it, is just whataboutery. Your attempting to deflect from the subject because you have no valid arguments to back up your POV.

I don't believe one has to have surgery to be trans although some people choose to do this. That you are only concerned about a tiny minority of people who subject their healthy bodies to medical procedures that may be viewed as optional is very odd.

Imdunfer · 28/10/2026 19:37

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 18:29

When I was younger, I told my brother off for using a homophobic slur and said: you do realise gay people don't choose to be gay?

He was about 14, and astounded by this. Talking mid-90s. It altered his world in an instant.

I said this in front of several of his male friends. One of them was gay, and later felt able to talk to my brother about it. My brother was eventually best man at his wedding.

Trans children are now in the same position that friend was. Afraid to come out, afraid of their parents and how wider society will treat them. Coping with ridiculous myths about how being LGBT is a lifestyle choice.

There's nothing any parent can do to alter their child being trans, but parents are all-powerful in their children's lives. It's up to them whether they wish to make their child's pain and fear worse - and lose their child's trust in the process.

It really doesn't matter what you think. Being trans is real, and no matter how much angry, abusive, infantilising language you use, trans people.will continue to be born - in tiny numbers, scattered across the world.

The road towards coming out is usually long, can have twists and turns - but is always hard-going. Being an out trans person isn't a casual decision at all, and a parent choosing to be abusive and controlling in that situation will not have the slightest effect on their identity.

Parents who not only fail their children but whinge publicly about how their child's identity affects them are abusing their power. It's pathetic, and shows the parent to be a narcissist. Children are not possessions, owe their parents nothing and deserve respect.

I don't know where you live TPA but my brother has worn big hearing aids most of his life and not been bullied like your brother was, and nobody of 14 in 1995 where I lived would ever have needed telling that people don't choose to be gay.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/10/2026 19:38

Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 19:19

Uh, yes I am neurodivergent. (So are all my sons. Very common within my family.)

a typo. Right

Not because the poster you refer to deserves my goodwill, but simply because it matters to me to be fair, it's not unreasonable or uncommon to change minor details to obscure ones identity.

Unless the earlier post relied on the "fact" TPA's daughter is autistic (rather than just a general "yeah I do have ND kids") like the current post relies on the fact she is not, I'd just chalk it up to an innocent privacy fib that turned out to matter later on.

Or maybe TPA forgot to count her daughter as one of her sons. Who knows.

AstonCanKissMyArse · 28/10/2026 19:43

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 18:29

When I was younger, I told my brother off for using a homophobic slur and said: you do realise gay people don't choose to be gay?

He was about 14, and astounded by this. Talking mid-90s. It altered his world in an instant.

I said this in front of several of his male friends. One of them was gay, and later felt able to talk to my brother about it. My brother was eventually best man at his wedding.

Trans children are now in the same position that friend was. Afraid to come out, afraid of their parents and how wider society will treat them. Coping with ridiculous myths about how being LGBT is a lifestyle choice.

There's nothing any parent can do to alter their child being trans, but parents are all-powerful in their children's lives. It's up to them whether they wish to make their child's pain and fear worse - and lose their child's trust in the process.

It really doesn't matter what you think. Being trans is real, and no matter how much angry, abusive, infantilising language you use, trans people.will continue to be born - in tiny numbers, scattered across the world.

The road towards coming out is usually long, can have twists and turns - but is always hard-going. Being an out trans person isn't a casual decision at all, and a parent choosing to be abusive and controlling in that situation will not have the slightest effect on their identity.

Parents who not only fail their children but whinge publicly about how their child's identity affects them are abusing their power. It's pathetic, and shows the parent to be a narcissist. Children are not possessions, owe their parents nothing and deserve respect.

It doesn't matter how many times you assert something, that doesn't make it true.

Nobody here is being angry with /toward you. Yet the accusations continue.

Disagreement =/= Anger.

Accusing people of anger is a poor substitute for engaging with the points they have made.

Can you quote the people who are being angry, because I've missed those posts.

Trans isn't the new 'LGB'. They are innate sexualities that don't require medical and surgical intervention. T is ... well we're still waiting for an explanation of what T is. Apparently it's neither stereotypes nor mental illness. Stonewall is largely responsible for glomming the T onto LBG because they were running out of funds / lacking purpose after equal marriage was achieved in the UK in 2014.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/10/2026 19:46

FrippEnos · 28/10/2026 19:18

No, cis women pretend to be cis and cis men pretend to be cis.

you were very close.

Ironically, if you actually take on board that poster's system of language where "woman" is a gendertype not a sex, "cis" women do perform being a woman.

They are female, but they act "woman" in line with their social gender.

Of course that's not actually what the poster was trying to say at all, they thoight they were having a clever (ahem) dig, but nevertheless, it's entirely where their claimed beliefs end up.

AstonCanKissMyArse · 28/10/2026 19:48

FrippEnos · 28/10/2026 19:18

No, cis women pretend to be cis and cis men pretend to be cis.

you were very close.

Please keep your TRA slurs to yourself.

I'm not cis anything and you don't have the right to refer to me and other women who don't 'identify' as anything, as such.

Self determination goes both ways.

FrippEnos · 28/10/2026 19:50

AstonCanKissMyArse · 28/10/2026 19:48

Please keep your TRA slurs to yourself.

I'm not cis anything and you don't have the right to refer to me and other women who don't 'identify' as anything, as such.

Self determination goes both ways.

You have missed the point of my post entirely.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 28/10/2026 19:51

PollyNomial · 28/10/2026 19:34

I don't believe one has to have surgery to be trans although some people choose to do this. That you are only concerned about a tiny minority of people who subject their healthy bodies to medical procedures that may be viewed as optional is very odd.

Not been following the butchery that's going on in Wales then.

That you are only concerned about a tiny minority of people who subject their healthy bodies to medical procedures that may be viewed as optional is very odd.

Any surgery to health bodies is unnecessary surgery, removing your breasts will not make you a man, just a woman who's had her breasts removed for no reason.
It's not possible to put a penis on a woman and any surgery that is said to do that is not only unnecessary surgery, it's obscene and Frankenstein level abuse. It's odd that you don't care about people who are subject themselves to such pointless and unnecessary surgeries, you lack of concern for the vulnerable and gullible who are being led down a path to mutilation is Frankenstein level psychopathic.

Soontobe60 · 28/10/2026 19:54

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 18:10

Child abuse isn't in me, I'm proud to say.

If I hadn't supported him, he would still be trans. I know that from seeing what he went through.

I wonder if parents who don't, realise that they're sabotaging the love their children have for them. You can't fully love someone you do not trust.

The fact that you think telling a child the truth is tantamount to child abuse speaks volumes.
Many parents of children who identify as trans are honest with their DC and they still have a positive relationship with each other. A good friend of mine has such a relationship with her now adult child.

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Soontobe60 · 28/10/2026 20:01

Lowlevelhead · 28/10/2026 19:10

And yet you say on a recent thread “all my sons are neuro divergent”

You adjust the detail to fit your view

I think she meant that all of her sons are ND but her daughter isn’t. Bit of a Freudian slip there eh?

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TransParentlyAnnoyed · 28/10/2026 20:02

Soontobe60 · 28/10/2026 19:54

The fact that you think telling a child the truth is tantamount to child abuse speaks volumes.
Many parents of children who identify as trans are honest with their DC and they still have a positive relationship with each other. A good friend of mine has such a relationship with her now adult child.

There is a big difference between airing your views and imposing them.

Having a disagreement is very different to accusing a child of gaslighting and being brutal.

It's telling I think abusing a parent's power is child abuse? Thanks. As a survivor, I appreciate that.